College Hoops: 4/13/2006 - Midnight Madness (10/16/2006)

[naiwf 0]

He's been number 1 all year till Tyrus Thomas decided to jump in. The Bobcats don't need anymore big men, so I doubt they'd draft Thomas or Aldridge when they already have Okafor, and Primo, and May. They could use another wing player. Gay can play the 2 more than Morrison can, so he'd fit the bill. I don't know why this upsets you. Gay ain't that bad. He's underachieved, but he probably has the most potential out of all the other top prospects.

 

The Bobcats would be better off having an insurance policy for an injury prone Okafor than drafting a guy with no heart or desire. I saw at least a dozen UConn games this year and Rudy showed up for about 4 or 5 of them. If he can't care enough to dominate on a national powerhouse against inferior competition at the college level, why take a risk that he'll start to care once he gets that guaranteed ~$10 million to play for a horrible squad?

 

Gay is exactly the kind of guy that leads to a GM losing his job as I said earlier.

[SilverPhoenix 0]

The worst kept secret in America is out, Morrison is going to announce his decision to go pro tomorrow. I can't believe some of the ESPN talking heads actually thought he'd go back to the 'Zags for his senior season.

 

I'm going to take the Devil's Advocate arguement and say that Morrison should stay in College. He needs to improve his mentality, and his play on Defense. Though with Joakim and McRoberts and a whole bunch of other good players waiting to break out, he may be better served to go now.

 

Since we're on the draft....Does anyone think Gerry gets drafted? I say he goes early in the 2nd Round and becomes a project/role player for a few years.

[Brett Favre 0]

Kyle Lowry is still thinking of entering the draft. If he does, as a Knick fan, i'd trade both our picks to move up to get him, even with our clog at point guard. The guy defends, and is a pass first point guard, who shows tons of heart.

[Brett Favre 0]

He's been number 1 all year till Tyrus Thomas decided to jump in. The Bobcats don't need anymore big men, so I doubt they'd draft Thomas or Aldridge when they already have Okafor, and Primo, and May. They could use another wing player. Gay can play the 2 more than Morrison can, so he'd fit the bill. I don't know why this upsets you. Gay ain't that bad. He's underachieved, but he probably has the most potential out of all the other top prospects.

 

The Bobcats would be better off having an insurance policy for an injury prone Okafor than drafting a guy with no heart or desire. I saw at least a dozen UConn games this year and Rudy showed up for about 4 or 5 of them. If he can't care enough to dominate on a national powerhouse against inferior competition at the college level, why take a risk that he'll start to care once he gets that guaranteed ~$10 million to play for a horrible squad?

 

Gay is exactly the kind of guy that leads to a GM losing his job as I said earlier.

 

His potential will overshadow all of that. Can you imagine Felton running the break with Gerald Wallace and Rudy Gay at his sides? It's a gamble that they might take.

[naiwf 0]

The worst kept secret in America is out, Morrison is going to announce his decision to go pro tomorrow. I can't believe some of the ESPN talking heads actually thought he'd go back to the 'Zags for his senior season.

 

I'm going to take the Devil's Advocate arguement and say that Morrison should stay in College. He needs to improve his mentality, and his play on Defense. Though with Joakim and McRoberts and a whole bunch of other good players waiting to break out, he may be better served to go now.

 

Since we're on the draft....Does anyone think Gerry gets drafted? I say he goes early in the 2nd Round and becomes a project/role player for a few years.

 

Your argument makes sense. Their argument was more along the lines of he wouldn't want to end his collegiate career crying at midcourt. I'd rather get knocked out in a heartbreaker in the NCAA and be a top 3 pick than go back and struggle just to make the NCAA and probably end up with no chance of being in the top 5 next season if anything goes wrong. Bare minimum, Oden, McRoberts and Noah would all be drafted ahead of him whether he scored 40 a game next year or not. This year the only people who are probably locks to leapfrog Adam are Aldredge and Thomas.

 

Gerry Mac will probably end up somewhere in the mid 2nd round to a team that just needs a back up PG/spot up shooter off of the bench. I could see a lot of teams taking a flyer on him, but even if he's undrafted I still think he'll be one of those guys that makes a living being a role player.

 

The funny part to me about the draft this year was everyone who supported the Eddy Curry trade at the time said the Knicks were far better off with him than anyone available in the draft. Right now, I'd much rather see Thomas or Aldredge wearing a Knicks uni in '06-'07, and if we didn't get a top 2 pick they could even get away with drafting a non defensive player like Morrison just to sell tickets/jerseys. Isiah is the opposite of King Midas, since everything he touches turns to shit.

[Brett Favre 0]

I don't know about Aldridge. No one expected Tyrus Thomas to come out this year, so I don't blame him much for that. I'm pissed that he didn't atleast top 3 protect it though. I would have loved Adam Morrison on the Knicks, although we need more defensive minded players.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Arron Affalo and Jordan Farmar of UCLA are putting their names in the draft, but not hiring agents:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2415989

[therealworldschampion 0]

The NC State job has been offered to Steve Lavin:

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/charlotte/s...harlotte_sports

[2GOLD 0]

The NC State job has been offered to Steve Lavin:

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/charlotte/s...harlotte_sports

 

Wow, they really might end up offering it to Dickie V if this keeps up. If Lavin says no, they might as well call some NC public high school and try to steal away their girls basketball coach.

[SilverPhoenix 0]

The NC State job has been offered to Steve Lavin:

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/charlotte/s...harlotte_sports

 

Wow, they really might end up offering it to Dickie V if this keeps up. If Lavin says no, they might as well call some NC public high school and try to steal away their girls basketball coach.

 

If Steve Lavin says no, think about how humilated NC State is going to feel. It's one thing to be spurned by two Elite 8 Coaches, but to be rejected by a coach whose last memory on the hardwood was leading UCLA to their worst season ever, 3 years ago, that would be an indication of how much of a big mistake it was to try to force Sendek out the way they did. This isn't Indiana or Kentucky where there is enough street cred to be able to have a revovling door for coaches. Seton Hall also had to learn the hard way when they had to settle for their 3rd choice when Pecora and Larrianaga said No. NCState might as well call off the coaching search and start over the season after next.

 

In other Darrius Washington of Memphis might declare for the draft.

[therealworldschampion 0]

The difference in this case between Seton Hall and NC State is I think that Bobby Gonzalez is a pretty decent hire for their program and that they actually set their sights respectably with regards to going after Pecora and Larranga first. NC State people on the other hand thought that coaches should be honored to have the chance to coach there (with regards to NC State people on message boards and their thoughts regarding Rick Barnes, John Calipari, and Jay Wright), and it blew back up in their faces and now they're having to settle for Steve Lavin.

[Brett Favre 0]

Marcus Williams (Ari), Shannon Brown, and Patrick O'Bryant declare for the draft.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Now reports are saying that Lavin has turned down NC State. which leads NCSU to be very close to hiring West Virginia's John Beilein as the new coach.

[Celtic Guardian 0]

Larranaga has signed an extension with George Mason through the 2011-2012 season.

[Hawk 34 0]

Now reports are saying that Lavin has turned down NC State. which leads NCSU to be very close to hiring West Virginia's John Beilein as the new coach.

 

I'd hate to take a job that Steve F'n Lavin turned down.

[SilverPhoenix 0]

Now reports are saying that Lavin has turned down NC State. which leads NCSU to be very close to hiring West Virginia's John Beilein as the new coach.

 

I'd hate to take a job that Steve F'n Lavin turned down.

 

Going by this, he may not take it either. One reason may be due to the ridiculous buyout.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Beilein has basically turned the job down now as well. Onto Frank Haith or Dereck Wittenburg now...

 

This has to be one of the all-time most embarassing coaching searches in any sport.

 

Come out with a list of big names: Tom Izzo, Tom Crean, Jay Wright, Tubby Smith. All reject overtures.

 

Go hard after Rick Barnes, only to have him turn you down.

 

Get played like a fiddle by Calipari who parlayed the NC State offer into a raise from Memphis.

 

Get rejected by Steve Fucking Lavin.

 

Go hard after John Beilein, only to have him embarass you as well.

[Brett Favre 0]

Kyle Lowry has entered his name in the draft; same with Aaron Gray.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Lowry didn't hire an agent, so he can go back for his junior year if he wants.

 

My guess is since he's projected to be a borderline 1st rounder, he'll probably come back for 06-07.

[Brett Favre 0]

Man, I hope he doesn't. Even with 20 PGs on our roster, he's the type of PG the Knicks need.

[bob_barron 0]

Darius Washington and Shawne Williams of Memphis have both declared for the draft.

 

I don't get what Washington's thinking, but apparently he has a child to support.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Mike Brey has now turned down NC State too. When mediocre coaches from other conferences are turning you down, you might as well just give up.

[Hawk 34 0]

Mike Brey has now turned down NC State too. When mediocre coaches from other conferences are turning you down, you might as well just give up.

 

Why is it exactly that people are turning down NC State? What makes that job so undesireable? I imagine they get good backing from the university, they get tv time and they play big name teams...

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

With the exception of Lavin, they're going after guys who are already in pretty comfortable situations. Then there are guys like Brey who probably wouldn't succeed at NC State and would be out the door in three years. It's really, really funny.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Mike Brey has now turned down NC State too. When mediocre coaches from other conferences are turning you down, you might as well just give up.

 

Why is it exactly that people are turning down NC State? What makes that job so undesireable? I imagine they get good backing from the university, they get tv time and they play big name teams...

 

1. Sharing the same state and competing against Duke and UNC all of the time, basically being 3rd or 4th fiddle in NC.

 

2. Fanbase is quite delusional; expecting over 20 wins each season, beating Duke and UNC all of the time, multiple ACC championships, and contending for national titles while being in the ACC and dealing with the aforementioned Duke and UNC.

 

3. Being the type of character that Jim Valvano was, which Herb Sendek wasn't and likely got him run off.

[naiwf 0]

Report: N.C. State set to hire alum Lowe

 

May 4, 2006

CBS SportsLine.com staff and wire reports

 

N.C. State is set to hire Detroit Pistons assistant coach Sidney Lowe as its new basketball coach, the Raleigh News and Observer reported Thursday.

 

Lowe, 46, will replace Herb Sendek, who left early last month to become head coach at Arizona State.

 

Lowe was the point guard on the Pack's 1983 national championship team and remains a favorite among many Wolfpack fans. Although he has not coached on the collegiate level, he has been a head coach in the NBA with the Minnesota Timberwolves and Memphis Grizzlies.

 

Lowe's hiring would end an exhaustive search by NCSU athletics director Lee Fowler that has lasted more than a month. Texas coach Rick Barnes and Memphis coach John Calipari both were approached by Fowler but elected to remain at their respective schools.

 

Did NC State set a record for most times rejected by prospective coaches before hiring Lowe?

[therealworldschampion 0]

4 official rejections by Barnes, Calipari, Steve Lavin, and John Beilein.

 

Anyway, if Nova ends up losing Lowry they'll likely get 4-star Virginia PG/SG Scottie Reynolds, who's game is very reminiscent of Randy Foye's. Nardi would likely move over to PG and Reynolds would have every opportunity to win the SG spot.

[Damaramu 0]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2443805

 

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet. I think it sucks anytime anyone is killed especially in this manner.

[Guest]

He was good. Really good. Sucks.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah but does that really matter? I mean even if he was a shitty bench player it still sucks ass.