2006 TSM Baseball Awards

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AL MVP

1. Justin Morneau

2. Derek Jeter

3. David Ortiz

4. Jermaine Dye

5. Travis Hafner

6. Frank Thomas

7. Joe Mauer

8. Jim Thome

9. Ivan Rodriguez

10. Grady Sizemore

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Ryan Howard

3. Carlos Beltran

4. Lance Berkman

5. Miguel Cabrera

6. Jose Reyes

7. David Wright

8. Alfonso Soriano

9. Chase Utley

10. Andruw Jones

 

AL Cy Young

1. Johan Santana

2. Roy Halladay

3. Wang

 

NL Cy Young

1. Brandon Webb

2. Roy Oswalt

3. Chris Carpenter

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Jim Leyland

2. Ron Gardenhire

3. Ken Macha

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Joe Girardi

2. Grady Little

3. Phil Garner

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Justin Verlander

2. Jonathan Papelbon

3. Francisco Liriano

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Ryan Zimmerman

3. Dan Uggla

[Brett Favre 0]

RE: Wang; He has as good numbers as Verlander.

 

And looking stuff over, I changed my AL MVP voting..so hopefully the tally hadn't been done yet.

[Vern Gagne 0]

AL MVP

1.Joe Mauer

2.Derek Jeter

3.Johan Santana

4.David Ortiz

5.Jermaine Dye

6.Frank Thomas

7.Justin Morneau

8.Grady Sizemore

9.Vladimir Guerrero

10.Travis Hafner

 

NL MVP

1.Lance Berkman

2.Albert Pujos

3.Ryan Howard

4.Miguel Cabrera

5.Carlos Beltran

6.Jose Reyes

7.Alfonso Soriano

8.Garrett Atkins

9.David Wright

10.Brian McCann

 

AL Cy Young

1.Johan Santana

2.Roy Halladay

3.CC Sabathia

 

NL Cy Young

1.Roy Oswalt

2.Brandon Webb

3.Chris Carpenter

 

AL Manager of the Year

1.Ron "Gardy" Gardenhire

2.Jim Leyland

3.Joe Torre

 

NL Manager of the Year

1.Willie Randolph

2.Joe Giradi

3.Bruce Bochy

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1.Francisco Liriano

2.Justin Verlander

3.Jonathan Papelbon

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1.Hanley Ramirez

2.Ryan Zimmerman

3.Dan Uggla

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

AL MVP

1. Derek Jeter

2. Travis Hafner

3. Johan Santana

4. David Ortiz

5. Joe Mauer

6. Grady Sizemore

7. Jermaine Dye

8. Carlos Guillen

9. Miguel Tejada

10. Manny Ramirez

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Ryan Howard

3. Miguel Cabrera

4. Lance Berkman

5. Carlos Beltran

6. Chase Utley

7. Jose Reyes

8. Matt Holliday

9. Brian McCann

10. Hanley Ramirez

 

AL Cy Young

1. Johan Santana

2. Roy Halladay

3. Chien-ming Wang

 

NL Cy Young

1. Roy Oswalt

2. Brandon Webb

3. Chris Carpenter

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Jim Leyland

2. Ron Gardenhire

3. Ken Macha

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Joe Girardi

2. Willie Randolph

3. Bruce Bochy

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Francisco Liriano

2. Justin Verlander

3. Jered Weaver

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Dan Uggla

3. Josh Johnson

[Brett Favre 0]

Don't stuff the ballots now.

[randomguy 0]

The only top 10 list Tek deserves to be on is top 10 dissapointing seasons. Not only is the guy not a top 10 player, he's not a top 100 player.

[Guest Felonies!]

Where the hell is all the Wang love coming from?

A bunch of cunts and fags?

[vivalaultra 0]

Hey, humanoid, I'm the biggest Astros' shill on the board and I don't even think Garner should be in the top 7 in Manager of the Year. Why'd you give him 3rd?

 

I picked Wang because I don't wanna incur Yankee wrath, and he did win 19 games and only allowed 12 homeruns in over 200 innings. I think that's a pretty good year...

[CanadianChris 0]

Where the hell is all the Wang love coming from?

A bunch of cunts and fags?

I knew I could count on you, Czech.

[Slayer 0]

if he didn't get it, I would've

[Guest]

AL MVP

1. Johan Santana

2. Derek Jeter

3. Joe Mauer

4. Justin Morneau

5. Travis Hafner

6. David Ortiz

7. Frank Thomas

8. Jermaine Dye

9. Vladimir Guerrero

10. Jim Thome

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Ryan Howard

3. Alfonso Soriano

4. Carlos Beltran

5. Lance Berkman

6. Nomar, bitch.

7. Chase Utley

8. Miguel Cabrera

9. Jose Reyes

10. Adrian Gonzalez

 

AL Cy Young

1. Johan Santana

2. Jonathan Verlander

3. Roy Halladay

 

NL Cy Young

1. Chris Carpenter

2. Brandon Webb

3. Roy Oswalt

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Jim Leyland

2. Ron Gardenhire

3. Ken Macha

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Joe Girardi

2. Grady Little

3. Bruce Bochy

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Fransisco Liriano

2. Jonathan Verlander

3. Jon Papelbon

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Dan Uggla

2. Ryan Zimmerman

3. Russell Martin

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

I posted my ballot in my blog.

[vivalaultra 0]

Hey, Allister, I was going to reply in your blog, but I thought I'd do it here instead. I was just wondering what made you put Berkman 5th in your NL MVP voting? And below Miguel Cabrera, too? Sure Cabrera had a good year, and so did Pujols, Howard, etc., but Lance Berkman set a new career high in HRs and RBI (a new franchise record in RBI) and had almost 70 more RBI than Craig Biggio, 2nd on the team. Obviously, the Astros were a terrible offensive club, but, at least in my opinion, having 46 homeruns and 137 RBI on the worst offensive team in the NL should get you the MVP. The Cards, for the most part, weren't a great offensive club, and the Phillies were slightly above average at best, but I'd much rather have Chris Duncan and Scott Rolen or Chase Utley and Pat "The Bat" batting around me in the lineup than some combination of Craig Biggio, Morgan Ensberg, Jason Lane, or Aubrey Huff.

 

I did see that you had Roy O as the Cy Young. You're a smart man, Albert.

 

And I completely forget that Kenji Jojhima existed.

[Styles 0]

AL MVP

1. Johan Santana

2. David Ortiz

3. Joe Mauer

4. Derek Jeter

5. Justin Morneau

6. Frank Thomas

7. Jermaine Dye

8. Travis Hafner

9. Vladmir Guerrero

10. Jim Thome

 

NL MVP

1. Ryan Howard

2. Albert Pujols

3. Carlos Beltran

4. Lance Berkman

5. Alfonso Soriano

6. Andruw Jones

7. Miguel Cabrera

8. David Wright

9. Jose Reyes

10. Chase Utley

 

AL Cy Young

1. Johan Santana

2. Roy Halladay

3. Mike Mussina

 

NL Cy Young

1. Brandon Webb

2. Roy Oswalt

3. Chris Carpenter

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Jim Leyland

2. Ron Gardenhire

3. Ken Macha

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Joe Girardi

2. Bruce Bochy

3. Jerry Narron

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Justin Verlander

2. Fransico Liriano

3. Jonathan Papelbon

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Ryan Zimmerman

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Prince Fielder

[Bored 0]

My Awards

 

I'm skipping Manager of the Year because it's meaningless.

 

AL MVP

1. Derek Jeter

2. Joe Mauer

3. David Ortiz

4. Johan Santana

5. Travis Hafner

6. Manny Ramirez

7. Jermaine Dye

8. Jim Thome

9. Justin Morneau

10. Carlos Guillen

 

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Carlos Beltran

3. Ryan Howard

4. Miguel Cabrera

5. Lance Berkman

6. David Wright

7. Jose Reyes

8. Chase Utley

9. Alfonso Soriano

10. Garrett Atkins

 

AL Cy Young

1. Johan Santana

2. Roy Halladay

3. C.C. Sabathia

 

NL Cy Young

1. Brandon Webb

2. Roy Oswalt

3. Chris Carpenter

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Francisco Liriano

2. Jonathan Papelbon

3. Justin Verlander

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Ryan Zimmerman

3. Dan Uggla

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Hey, Allister, I was going to reply in your blog, but I thought I'd do it here instead. I was just wondering what made you put Berkman 5th in your NL MVP voting? And below Miguel Cabrera, too? Sure Cabrera had a good year, and so did Pujols, Howard, etc., but Lance Berkman set a new career high in HRs and RBI (a new franchise record in RBI) and had almost 70 more RBI than Craig Biggio, 2nd on the team. Obviously, the Astros were a terrible offensive club, but, at least in my opinion, having 46 homeruns and 137 RBI on the worst offensive team in the NL should get you the MVP. The Cards, for the most part, weren't a great offensive club, and the Phillies were slightly above average at best, but I'd much rather have Chris Duncan and Scott Rolen or Chase Utley and Pat "The Bat" batting around me in the lineup than some combination of Craig Biggio, Morgan Ensberg, Jason Lane, or Aubrey Huff.

 

I did see that you had Roy O as the Cy Young. You're a smart man, Albert.

 

And I completely forget that Kenji Jojhima existed.

Three things influenced my decision to place Cabrera over Berkman.

 

1. Cabrera had a higher OBP

2. Cabrera played in a much tougher hitters' park

3. Cabrera plays third base while Berkman plays first base

 

It's close, I just felt Cabrera contributed more to his team. And really, that team performed well for having some serious black holes.

[vivalaultra 0]

Hey, the Puma's all about versatility. Berkman also played some games in the outfield. And he had 20 more HRs and 22 more RBI than Cabrera. And his OPS is higher and he had more total bases. I don't see how Cabrera contributed more to the Marlins than Berkman did to the Astros, especially, as I keep mentioning mostly because I find it completely staggering, Berkman had 70 more RBI than the guy that had the 2nd most on the team. He drove in about 20% of the total runs scored for the Astros. The Astros, I think, had just as many, if not more, holes than the Marlins did. But, that's probably partially my 'homerism' coming into play, and I can see why someone might rank Cabrera higher than Berkman, even if I don't agree.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Nobody asked me about my rankings. Wahhh.

[snuffbox 0]

Anglesault didn't ask, he told you to be serious!

[Vern Gagne 0]

Nobody asked me about my rankings. Wahhh.

 

What went into you picking God's other son for AL MVP?

[MFer 0]

AL MVP

1. Joe Mauer-MIN

2. Derek Jeter-NYY

3. Jermaine Dye-CWS

4. Johan Santana-MIN

5. David Ortiz-BOS

6. Justin Morneau-MIN

7. Frank Thomas-OAK

8. Vladimir Guerrero-LAA

9. Carlos Guillen-DET

10. Jason Giambi-NYY

 

NL MVP

1. Ryan Howard-PHI

2. Albert Pujols-STL

3. Carlos Beltran-NYM

4. Lance Berkman-HOU

5. Jose Reyes-NYM

6. Alfonso Soriano-WAS

7. Andruw Jones-ATL

8. Nomar Garciaparra-LAD

9. Miguel Cabrera-FLA

10. Matt Holliday-COL

 

AL Cy Young

1. Johan Santana-MIN

2. Chien-Mang Wang-NYY

3. Freddy Garcia-CWS

 

NL Cy Young

1. Roy Oswalt-HOU

2. Trevor Hoffman-SD

3. Brandon Webb-ARZ

 

AL Manager of the Year

1. Jim Leyland-DET

2. Ron Gardenhire-MIN

3. Joe Torre-NYY

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Joe Girardi-FLA

2. Willie Randolph-NYM

3. Grady Little-LAD

 

AL Rookie of the Year

1. Justin Verlander-DET

2. Francisco Liriano-MIN

3. Jonathan Papelbon-BOS

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Ryan Zimmerman-WAS

2. Dan Uggla-FLA

3. Hanley Ramirez-FLA

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I posted my ballot in my blog.

 

I know that everyone has their own rating system and qualifications for an MVP, but how could you leave Hafner off of your ballot? Even with his missed time, wouldn't you agree that he was the best hitter in the American League this year?

[nogoodnick 0]

Nobody asked me about my rankings. Wahhh.

Well your rankings suck.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Hey, the Puma's all about versatility. Berkman also played some games in the outfield. And he had 20 more HRs and 22 more RBI than Cabrera. And his OPS is higher and he had more total bases. I don't see how Cabrera contributed more to the Marlins than Berkman did to the Astros, especially, as I keep mentioning mostly because I find it completely staggering, Berkman had 70 more RBI than the guy that had the 2nd most on the team. He drove in about 20% of the total runs scored for the Astros. The Astros, I think, had just as many, if not more, holes than the Marlins did. But, that's probably partially my 'homerism' coming into play, and I can see why someone might rank Cabrera higher than Berkman, even if I don't agree.

It is easy to get hung up on home runs and RBIs. There are other ways to contribute to offense however. Miguel Cabrera had 22 more singles, 21 more doubles, and 2 more triples than Berkman. What does that all add up to? Using runs created, we estimate that Berkman created 134.2 runs, compared to 132.1 for Cabrera. That's two runs, a razor thin margin. Then we take into account that Cabrera hit in a tougher run environment, and played a more crucial defensive position. Is that worth two runs on offense? Absolutely.

 

As for percentage of a team's value, just as a bevy of qualified teammates shouldn't make a player the MVP, neither should a lack of them. Berkman knocked in about 18.5% of the Astros' runs. Cabrera knocked in 15% of his team's. And that is not unusual. Your top RBI guy will typically knock in about 14-18% of his team's runs.

 

I posted my ballot in my blog.

 

I know that everyone has their own rating system and qualifications for an MVP, but how could you leave Hafner off of your ballot? Even with his missed time, wouldn't you agree that he was the best hitter in the American League this year?

Hafner has three things going against him. His team's lack of success, his lack of defensive value, and time missed due to injuries. The time missed is probably a bad argument given that I listed Manny who played 130 games and isn't about to win a Gold Glove. Hafner simply has no intangible arguments going for him beyond his hitting numbers. He certainly deserves consideration though, and would probably rank 11th on my ballot.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Nobody asked me about my rankings. Wahhh.

Well your rankings suck.

Thanks!

 

And I can't vote a DH for MVP. They only play half the game. And they hurt their lineup every time they use the DH position.

[Brett Favre 0]

On ESPN Radio, Max Kellerman and Steve Phillips were arguing over who should be AL MVP. It got to the point where Kellerman made an argument that Carlos Guillen had a better year than Morneau (which you can definitely make a case for; Morneau was Phillips' choice for AL MVP), and Steve Phillips got pissed at him. Kellerman, as usual made great arguments, while Phillips stuck with the RBIs argument, and he's the one that got pissed at Kellerman. Interesting to listen to.

[Guest Princess Leena]

Kellerman is back with ESPN now? Cool. Can anyone stand Steve Phillips.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I posted my ballot in my blog.

 

I know that everyone has their own rating system and qualifications for an MVP, but how could you leave Hafner off of your ballot? Even with his missed time, wouldn't you agree that he was the best hitter in the American League this year?

Hafner has three things going against him. His team's lack of success, his lack of defensive value, and time missed due to injuries. The time missed is probably a bad argument given that I listed Manny who played 130 games and isn't about to win a Gold Glove. Hafner simply has no intangible arguments going for him beyond his hitting numbers. He certainly deserves consideration though, and would probably rank 11th on my ballot.

 

Not to beat a dead horse, but I don't understand how you can knock Hafner for those reasons when Ortiz, Thome and Ramirez all make into your top 10 (who each had their missed time and lack of defensive value). The Indians lack of success had nothing to do with Hafner's hitting. Their pythagorean record was 90-72. They struggled because of bad situational karma and a horrendous bullpen. Hafner had an excellent hitting season, and even though he only played 129 games, his aggregate numbers were superior to everyone else in the American League. It just seems odd that you would exclude him.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Really, the only response that I can give is that I discounted Hafner for missing September.

[Guest Felonies!]

Since when does Max Kellerman usually make good arguments? Did I miss something here?