Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 To label the Cardinals as the Braves of the 21st century is a bit silly. No it isn't With the exception of '01, when they were the WC, and this year, every year they've gone to the postseason, they've won anywhere from 95 to 105 games, only to fall to a WC team each time. Hopefully the latter pattern continues this year. I don't want to see the Cardinals win a WS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Very disappointing but the fact of the matter is the Cardinals played better than the Mets in this series (not by much but it was noticeable). The Mets simply didn't hit. I don't think it was lack of "clutch" hitting but The Cardinals pitchers simply pounding the outside corners and really throwing nothing over the middle of plate. As far as offseason moves, they will probably over pay for Barry Zito and well that is about it. They will probably let Floyd walk so they might pick up a mid-level outfielder as I don't see them handing the job to Milledge. And I don't see them signing Soriano. And as Bored mentioned in his blog last week one of the worst parts about dealing with your team losing is to hear the talking heads lambast your team for having no heart and other non-sense. No sports talk for me for the next few days (fuck Chris Russo and Francessa) I will probably still watch the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 20, 2006 No, I'm watching this series. It's interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big McLargeHuge 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Same here. I'll worry about what draws ratings when I'm the head of Fox. As it is, I'll enjoy what little baseball is left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Fire Joe Buck and I'll be forever in your debt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 And, as predicted, they're starting to go crazy on the FAN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 To be fair I'm pretty sure some of the experts predicted the Cardinals to make the WS before the season started. Man, Beltran would've been a legend in NY if he hit one out. I was watching in a bowling alley. But anyways, I would go with Tigers in 5 but I have a feeling the D will drop a game they shouldn't so I'll go Tigers in 6. It'll be a homecoming of sorts for Weaver and Encarnacion. For me, besides being a Tiger fan, I can't stand the Cardinals. They're the NL version of the Yankees to me(although Edmonds is one of my favorite players). I also don't care too much for Pujols(don't ask why). I think Detroit would prefer being the underdog, but Leyland will have them mentally prepared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I checked win probability on a whim. The difference between Endy Chavez making and missing that catch is 34.8% of a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Same here. I'll worry about what draws ratings when I'm the head of Fox. As it is, I'll enjoy what little baseball is left. St. Louis, with a moderate sized national fanbase and storied franchise is going to draw more along with Detroit (which has a fairly likable squad and has that old coach charm) then a game between Chicago's bastard stepchild that the city of Chicago never cared enough about aside from a couple weeks last october and Houston, a franchise with zero national appeal and unlikable players. Last year's game had one name star and that player appeared once (Clemens). This edition gets it's biggest star attraction for the entire duration and has more attractive set of teams. Granted this game isn't going to get Boston/St. Louis numbers but let's not act like it's going to drop below last year's set. You'd think by now people will stop going "sweep" when Detroit beat NY and St. Louis beat NY despite everyone thinking it would be one(from the losing team, no less). St. Louis had a crummy regular season but despite a seemingly weak pitching staff, they manage to make things work. I do think Detroit has the advantage but I won't discredit that St. Louis has the ability to steal one, if not two games from the Tigers. Game 1 will be the best chance for them given the wave of momentum and Detroit's potential rust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Same here. I'll worry about what draws ratings when I'm the head of Fox. As it is, I'll enjoy what little baseball is left. a game between Chicago's bastard stepchild that the city of Chicago never cared enough about aside from a couple weeks last october and Houston, a franchise with zero national appeal and unlikable players. Oh go fuck your cousin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 To bring some civility to the argument, the White Sox drew 2.9 million, good for 3rd in the AL. Cubs drew 3.1 million. Not much of a disparity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Same here. I'll worry about what draws ratings when I'm the head of Fox. As it is, I'll enjoy what little baseball is left. a game between Chicago's bastard stepchild that the city of Chicago never cared enough about aside from a couple weeks last october and Houston, a franchise with zero national appeal and unlikable players. Oh go fuck your cousin. But he's right! There isn't a big disparity between 2.9 and 3.1, but there's a big disparity between 66 and 90, or 5th place and world champions. Where were the fans when the Sox were only above-average? It only took a world championship to get asses in the seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Last year the White Sox won so this year the Cardinals must win so the Cubs fans can all go, "OF COURSE OUR DAMN RIVALS WIN BACK TO BACK!" I'm expecting it, just because it's the totally fitting torture for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Yeah, look at this shit. 2003: The team that keeps us out of the Series wins 2004: Our main NL rival vs. the other "cursed" team 2005: Our other NL rival vs. our cross-town rival 2006: Our main NL rival vs. a team that lost 119 games when we were five outs away I'd like to say "well maybe if the Cardinals win, it'll light a fire under Jim Hendry's ass," but I've said this every year and it just leads him to do really stupid shit. He'll probably claim Jeff Weaver off waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 I think he signs Suppan to a $40-million deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Oh shit, he's a free agent. That's exactly what he's going to do. Oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Jeff Weaver would likely be the Cubs' #2 starter at this point given the constant injuries to Prior and Wood. Slayer, let me address your point about the Cardinals. They are nowhere close to being like the Braves. Sure, they might have lost to a few WC teams but it's not like the Cardinals were ever really major favorites in most of those series. In 2000 were the Cardinals really a serious favorite over the Mets in that series? Or in 2002 against the Giants? The Braves would have 100 win team after 100 win team and then blow it against teams like the Marlins, Padres, and so on. Not to mention that the Braves lost way more World Series than the Cardinals have recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 21, 2006 I know you were just funnin', but Wood is probably going to close next year, or some other bullpen role. His wife wants to stay in Chicago, and I don't know if other teams would want him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 To be fair I'm pretty sure some of the experts predicted the Cardinals to make the WS before the season started. Man, Beltran would've been a legend in NY if he hit one out. I was watching in a bowling alley. But anyways, I would go with Tigers in 5 but I have a feeling the D will drop a game they shouldn't so I'll go Tigers in 6. It'll be a homecoming of sorts for Weaver and Encarnacion. For me, besides being a Tiger fan, I can't stand the Cardinals. They're the NL version of the Yankees to me(although Edmonds is one of my favorite players). I also don't care too much for Pujols(don't ask why). I think Detroit would prefer being the underdog, but Leyland will have them mentally prepared. By NL Yankees do you just mean dislike? Because their salary level in relational to NL teams leaves them far from the level of the Yanks. (5th highest in the NL I believe?) Yeah Leyland is gonna have his boys ready to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Same here. I'll worry about what draws ratings when I'm the head of Fox. As it is, I'll enjoy what little baseball is left. St. Louis, with a moderate sized national fanbase and storied franchise is going to draw more along with Detroit (which has a fairly likable squad and has that old coach charm) then a game between Chicago's bastard stepchild that the city of Chicago never cared enough about aside from a couple weeks last october and Houston, a franchise with zero national appeal and unlikable players. Last year's game had one name star and that player appeared once (Clemens). This edition gets it's biggest star attraction for the entire duration and has more attractive set of teams. Granted this game isn't going to get Boston/St. Louis numbers but let's not act like it's going to drop below last year's set. You'd think by now people will stop going "sweep" when Detroit beat NY and St. Louis beat NY despite everyone thinking it would be one(from the losing team, no less). St. Louis had a crummy regular season but despite a seemingly weak pitching staff, they manage to make things work. I do think Detroit has the advantage but I won't discredit that St. Louis has the ability to steal one, if not two games from the Tigers. Game 1 will be very difficult though, given that Anthony Reyes is pitching against Verlander in Detroit. If they'd just pitched Weaver in Game 1, Carpenter in Game 2, and Suppan in Game 3, it would have given them a much better shot at winning the series. Even leaving Reyes as the Game 1 starter and pitching Carpenter on three days' rest in Game 2 to let Suppan pitch twice would have helped. FYP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 21, 2006 FYs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Same here. I'll worry about what draws ratings when I'm the head of Fox. As it is, I'll enjoy what little baseball is left. a game between Chicago's bastard stepchild that the city of Chicago never cared enough about aside from a couple weeks last october and Houston, a franchise with zero national appeal and unlikable players. Oh go fuck your cousin. But he's right! There isn't a big disparity between 2.9 and 3.1, but there's a big disparity between 66 and 90, or 5th place and world champions. Where were the fans when the Sox were only above-average? It only took a world championship to get asses in the seats. Yeah, damn the fair weather fans of the White Sox fanbase, whatever exists of it. I still just wanted to throw in the obligatory Choken reference. I do have to begrudgingly admit the Cubs has the city wrapped around their fingers while the White Sox are begging for table scraps, so to speak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
