oAo ECW on Sci Fi Thread // October 24, 2006

[hyperchord24 0]

The responses that people here have given to Punk's matches (who've never seen him before) is why he won't get over in the WWE. What average mark knows how damaging a backfist can be?

 

This may sound like a knock (no pun intended) to said posters, but it's more of a knock to the WWE who don't play to individual wrestlers' strengths. I've enjoyed him, however, his most recent matches have boring and repetetive.

[EricMM 0]

Repetitive being a key word.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I don't know...CM Punk seems to be over with the live crowds, so at least the push they're giving him is working.

 

Overall, I think the shows have been generally pretty repetitive. Granted, there's only so much they can do in one hour to advance so many guys, and they have a relatively small roster...but it seems like it's roughly the same matches week after week. Also, the "big moments" have been few and far between. I mean, other than Bob Holly's big gash after that table spot with RVD, how many memorable spots have there really been? They need stuff like Raven hitting Dreamer with the chair against the cage, etc. That's the stuff that built up ECW.

 

I'm not saying guys should be getting disfigured on live TV, but at least try to make the show a little different match-wise than Monday Night Raw.

[hyperchord24 0]

I can deal with repetitive (I agree the shows have been) as long as the matches are exciting (most in the begining were, as well as SOME recent ones).

[NoCalMike 0]

I still say the problem is that they are trying to sell a guy like CM Punk to a predominantly WWE-Smackdown crowd, which is taught not to care about wrestling manuevers and overall ringwork, so CM Punk getting a good reaction from the crowd is a tribute to the man himself, but there is still a huge difference between the fans chanting "CM PUNK" at the beginning of a match, and actually getting behind a guy, for instance RVD, who the fans still view as "big time" because he was successful in WWE.

 

To me the problem is still that WWE-Creative/Vince/Steph etc....are having a hard time finding the balance between selling ECW as ECW or selling ECW as WWE's Hour of Extreme. It seems they desperately want to go with the second option, but the fans are relating and getting behind ECW originals. Those are who they want to see because those guys are who they heard and read about in the ECW DVD/Books etc.....

 

If Vince would just give in on this issue, and get ECW it's own tapings, in smaller arenas, in front of a full crowd that is there to see ECW and not "Smackdown-featuring ECW"

 

If anything, just send camera crews to the ECW house shows, which are usually getting very good crowd reaction.

 

I know the main obstacle in this is Vince McMahon refusing to want anything to look "small-time" or amateur, and he probably feels that if people at home are watching ECW in small venues, then they will think of ECW as small-time, but fuck that noise, because ECW WAS small-time compared to WWE, sure they could get huge PPV crowds for the bigger shows, but on a nightly basis they averaged around 1500 or less.

 

Question: Does anyone else find it odd that ECW doesn't get much attention during Raw or Smackdown? I mean during ECW we usually get WWE promos during commercials, or Marine interviews/trailers, but during RAW why not have an "ECW REWIND" or something like they do for smackdown. Maybe more people would be convinced to watch if they saw exactly what they were missing!?! It just seems with Raw/Smackdown there is a lot of cross promotion, but nothing is mentioned about ECW.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

I don't know...CM Punk seems to be over with the live crowds, so at least the push they're giving him is working.

 

Overall, I think the shows have been generally pretty repetitive. Granted, there's only so much they can do in one hour to advance so many guys, and they have a relatively small roster...but it seems like it's roughly the same matches week after week. Also, the "big moments" have been few and far between. I mean, other than Bob Holly's big gash after that table spot with RVD, how many memorable spots have there really been? They need stuff like Raven hitting Dreamer with the chair against the cage, etc. That's the stuff that built up ECW.

 

I'm not saying guys should be getting disfigured on live TV, but at least try to make the show a little different match-wise than Monday Night Raw.

 

- As mentioned, Holly having his back torn up.

- Flair going "Extreme" against the Big Show.

- Virtually the entire Aug 1st Hammerstein Ballroom episode.

- Sandman crashing Kelly's Expose caning Mike Knox.

- Dreamer/Sandman finally getting the duke over Test/Knox (albeit it was a 6-person intergender match).

- The Sabu/Show series.

[razazteca 0]

guys should be getting disfigured on live TV

They need to put La Resistence pretty boy in a no rope barbed wire ladder match against Credible, Just-A-Jobber. And Sandman should be attacking people with light tubes instead of the cane! If I can be serious for a moment, what sets ECW different from Raw, if memory serves back in the day the E used to stand for Extreme and Emotion. There isn't anything to care about when watching ECW on Sci-Fi the show reeks of averageness status quo boredom with Big Show "blah blah blah blah I'm the champ" and Mike Knox "Hey stop looking at my nubile girlfriend" or Paul E. being the charature of a jew "I signed alot of Smackdown guys cheap and saved alot of money on my insurence by going with GEICO". There isn't anything EXTREME or EMOTIONAL about the current production on Sci-Fi network who cares about fighting over the girl that has been done a million times and with people who can actually act the part....you know what would be EXTREME vampire lesbians and Kelly Kelly turning into Barbarella.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

Here's the (new) ECW on Sci-Fi schedule up to the last ECW on Sci-Fi before the ECW December To Dismember PPV on December/3rd/2006:

 

WWE Smackdown & ECW on Sci-Fi Taping - Sunday, October/29th/2006.

Halloween ECW on Sci-Fi - Tuesday, October/31st/2006 - Taped the Sunday before, (October 29th), with Smackdown.

WWE Raw & ECW on Sci-Fi Taping - Monday, October/30th/2006.

ECW on Sci-Fi - Tuesday, November/7th/2006 - Taped the week before, (October 30th), with Raw.

ECW on Sci-Fi from England - Tuesday, November/14th/2006 - Taped sometime during the European tour from November 8th - November 15th.

ECW on Sci-Fi - Tuesday, November/21st/2006 - LIVE.

ECW on Sci-Fi - Tuesday, November/28th/2006 - LIVE.