ECW 11-28-06

[Thanks for the Fish 0]

I like the fact that they let him get beat up. It makes sense to weaken him less than a week before they have to fight him afterall. It would have been better storytelling to have Punk or somebody watching on from the entrance area.

[razazteca 0]

Mr. Burke can be the talker for Terkay and Knox if they are going to be ECW regulars.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Mr. Burke can be the talker for Terkay and Knox if they are going to be ECW regulars.

 

It's ashame he's stuck being Turkay's lacky because he is a really good wrestler from what I've seen of him. Him and Rey had a really good match.

[Hawk 34 0]

Burke should have gotten MVP's gimmick with MVP being Terkay's mouthpiece.

[NYU 0]

So wait, what weapons are going to be in the Chamber match?

[Hawk 34 0]

So wait, what weapons are going to be in the Chamber match?

Barbie bat.

Chair.

Table.

Crowbar.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

So wait, what weapons are going to be in the Chamber match?

Barbie bat.

Chair.

Table.

Crowbar.

 

Only 1 table and chair?

[NYU 0]

A crowbar? Holy shit, that's lame.

[Hawk 34 0]

So wait, what weapons are going to be in the Chamber match?

Barbie bat.

Chair.

Table.

Crowbar.

 

Only 1 table and chair?

 

They said each pod will consist of one of these weapons but I believe they alluded that other weapons (or multiple chairs/tables, at the least) were to be distributed throughout the chamber.

 

They should have odd random weapons attached to the chamber like that one gimmick WCW used to to run.

[razazteca 0]

So wait, what weapons are going to be in the Chamber match?

Barbie bat.

Chair.

Table.

Crowbar.

 

Only 1 table and chair?

I wonder if they are going to slide the weapons through door slot like they did for the Rhyno/Christian match on Impact?

[Hawk 34 0]

Here’s the problem with this entire show.

 

It’s not the lack of matches booked. It’s a two match card and that’s hardly much different from many of the original ECW ppv events and not much different from the other 2 match Elimination Chamber headlined events either. Filling up time won’t be difficult. Have a “impromptu” tag team brawl start the show off with Sandman/Dreamer against Holly and Striker (After Striker comes out to do his usual act but brings Holly as protection). Of course, the originals come out and want Striker to shut up. This starts a 8-10 minute brawl that should serve to warm the crowd up.

 

Toss in a “vixens” strip contest (it is a WWE produced show) most likely with Kelly wearing a santa helper outfit. She sets up a tease but the “boys” (Knox, Thorne and FBI) get in a confrontation and sets up another impromptu tag match with Knox/Thorne against FBI but is interrupted by Burke and Terkay. Making it six way and just to be truly ECW, it’s all blown apart with Khali led by Daivari smashing them up. In one segment, it would actually make it look like ECW has a tag team division. That whole segment would put over the girls, set up the three actual tag teams and give the no-name heel low-carders something to do (especially with the odd pairing of Kelly and Ariel side by side) and would eat a great deal of time. Throw in the 20 minute Hardyz/MNM, a couple promos from the EC wrestlers and the 45-60 minute EC match and that’s the whole show. Even if it’s just 3 actual matches and a run-in fest.

 

The problem that arises in the EC match is that Punk will have to work/carry most of this match. Probably starting with RVD. They are asking Punk to keep this match from falling apart with 3 slugs and 2 spot botch machines. (Luckily, Test works well enough in these deals). That’s a tall order and the biggest problem is the finish is built to have Lashley turn heel ala TBS on Lesnar in 2002. The build has essentially been the same as that program but with Show getting screwed this time. You’ll have fans spending $40 on a 4 match card with the main event ending with a screwjob and they must hope that they really book the main event to perfection and that the crowd can stay hot throughout.

 

It’s incredible to note that Punk is the second most likely to take the title here, just behind Lashley. The question is, how does he go out here? A fluke/cheap pin from Test or a screwy action from Heyman? I think they have to go with the latter.

 

RVD/Lashley would be beyond horrible as a in-ring product and neither can cut a promo. Having Heyman carry it is asking for a lot. Punk, is pretty over right now and the ratings most likely aren’t going to drop enough as it is, which means, just maybe it’s time to pull the trigger and do a Punk main event push. Vince is far more high on Punk right now, then he is for RVD.

 

What the match needs to do is have Lashley take out TBS in a big way because TBS is on the way out but needs to somehow turn TBS into a face in the process. The turn from Lashley needs to be effective enough and since it’s likely to occur mid-way through the match or at least ¾ of the way through, it needs to be well done. Heyman is likely to have a good hand in the booking of this match, so I feel somewhat secure in the chances it will be pulled off with success. Of course, I also thought WWE wouldn’t blow an obvious chance to have a classic 5 on 5 match last week but was proved wrong by their need to put DX over big time at the expense of the top heels on the show.

[Mike wanna be 0]

Maybe it's just me, but the thought of not turning Lashley and having Heyman become his supporter/agent is hilarious to me.

 

Heyman sucking up and hyping Lashley, giving him all the breaks he can, and Lashley just stands there and is like "Meh, whatever.", not giving a shit in the least.

[Scroby 0]

Toss in a “vixens” strip contest (it is a WWE produced show) most likely with Kelly wearing a santa helper outfit. She sets up a tease but the “boys” (Knox, Thorne and FBI) get in a confrontation and sets up another impromptu tag match with Knox/Thorne against FBI but is interrupted by Burke and Terkay. Making it six way and just to be truly ECW, it’s all blown apart with Khali led by Daivari smashing them up. In one segment, it would actually make it look like ECW has a tag team division. That whole segment would put over the girls, set up the three actual tag teams and give the no-name heel low-carders something to do (especially with the odd pairing of Kelly and Ariel side by side) and would eat a great deal of time. Throw in the 20 minute Hardyz/MNM, a couple promos from the EC wrestlers and the 45-60 minute EC match and that’s the whole show. Even if it’s just 3 actual matches and a run-in fest.

 

wait, you want to take 8 of the ECW wrestlers (all heels none the less, and the FBI was heels last week.) and put them all in a match, on a 3 hour long ppv with only two matches booked, and 5 more of those wrestlers on the ECW roster are in one of those matches already? I'm going to be honest with you, thats just fucking dumb.

 

Why take 8 more heels and have them face each other? Hell why have two heels come out and destory other heels? Besides we're most likely going to get a Daivari vs Dreamer rematch for the ppv anyways. And whats the point of having all heels face each other? Are we just going to turn the FBI face when they were just on tv agasint the Hardys as heels for no reason at all? And lets just say that match happens, lets just use it as an example, then you have one heel left and thats Matt Striker. So what your saying is pretty much book a 3 hour ppv with 4 matches (maybe) and booking for those 4 (maybe) matches would actually keep some of the faces of the ECW roster off the ppv. The PPV does not need another a match with a whole lot of wrestlers involved, the ppv needs more one on one matches since NONE are booked so far.

 

 

Now about tonights show, good show again, here are my thoughts.

 

Sabu vs RVD, always good and fun to watch, good opener.

 

Hardys vs Turkay and Burke, I was actually surprised that Turkay was the one who got pinned as well, but after watching the match I understand why. Turkay took a HARD shot in the post which basically took him out for the rest of the match and once the Hardy's got rid of Burke and double teaming Turkay to the point where the Hardy's were just able to get the win on Turkay without having to worry about Burke makes sense.

 

I also questioned why didn't MNM just run in before the match was over instead of afterwards and I'm guessing its because Heyman or whoever didn't want to have two matches with non-finishes on a one hour show.

 

CM Punk vs Test; Good somewhat competive match, sorta didn't like the finish, I felt the match was a bit to short to have that type of finish, but at the same time, you want your only other heel in the EC to look strong and you don't want to have your undefeated babyface to be pinned before his ppv main event debut, so I guess that booking works.

 

Plus the match also could have been a set up to a Test vs CM Punk feud after the PPV. Its quite possible that Test could have the goal to elimate CM Punk (The chamber is elimation right?) from the chamber since CM Punk got the better of Test on tonights show and Test is calling himself "God's gift to ECW" now......and I also sorta wanna see the shit hit the fan on the board if Test pins Punk and gets him elimated from the chamber.

 

Big Show vs Lashley; To be honest, I didn't pay to much attention to this match, I really didn't care for it because I know they're trying to push Lashley to make it look like he could beat the Big Show for the title, which they have done a really good job of doing, but the beat down at the end of the match just felt sorta long and you sorta knew it was coming. I just couldn't see whoever booking Lashely to go over the ECW champion clean before the ppv.

[Guest Untitled]

Barbwire bat? Methinks Test is going to try and carve Punk's tattoos away, Sabu's going to legdrop it by mistake, and Lashley's going to combine it with the chair to make a superweapon.

[Hawk 34 0]

Toss in a “vixens” strip contest (it is a WWE produced show) most likely with Kelly wearing a santa helper outfit. She sets up a tease but the “boys” (Knox, Thorne and FBI) get in a confrontation and sets up another impromptu tag match with Knox/Thorne against FBI but is interrupted by Burke and Terkay. Making it six way and just to be truly ECW, it’s all blown apart with Khali led by Daivari smashing them up. In one segment, it would actually make it look like ECW has a tag team division. That whole segment would put over the girls, set up the three actual tag teams and give the no-name heel low-carders something to do (especially with the odd pairing of Kelly and Ariel side by side) and would eat a great deal of time. Throw in the 20 minute Hardyz/MNM, a couple promos from the EC wrestlers and the 45-60 minute EC match and that’s the whole show. Even if it’s just 3 actual matches and a run-in fest.

 

wait, you want to take 8 of the ECW wrestlers (all heels none the less, and the FBI was heels last week.) and put them all in a match, on a 3 hour long ppv with only two matches booked, and 5 more of those wrestlers on the ECW roster are in one of those matches already? I'm going to be honest with you, thats just fucking dumb.

 

Why take 8 more heels and have them face each other? Hell why have two heels come out and destory other heels? Besides we're most likely going to get a Daivari vs Dreamer rematch for the ppv anyways. And whats the point of having all heels face each other? Are we just going to turn the FBI face when they were just on tv agasint the Hardys as heels for no reason at all? And lets just say that match happens, lets just use it as an example, then you have one heel left and thats Matt Striker. So what your saying is pretty much book a 3 hour ppv with 4 matches (maybe) and booking for those 4 (maybe) matches would actually keep some of the faces of the ECW roster off the ppv. The PPV does not need another a match with a whole lot of wrestlers involved, the ppv needs more one on one matches since NONE are booked so far.

 

Let me explain. FBI are essentially tweeners. In fact, it's hardly much effort to make them the defacto faces against Knox and Thorne. This is textbook Heyman to have this type of segment that breaks down and rebuilds and breaks down again. It'd start with the Vixens in a strip contest (since it's a WWE staple and they love to bring these diva things out to kill time). Kelly does her usual tease which Knox stops again and Ariel gets involved which leads FBI to try to talk the girls into having a cat-fight. This naturally makes them faces for the night. A quick match between those four guys, gets interupted by Burke cutting his usual promo about how great he and Terkay are and they get into the ring. A couple minutes of this leads into Khali coming out and taking them out.

 

This is Paul Heyman 101. How many times did we see a big man come in and clear a ring full of wrestlers? Many times. What this does is gets more wrestlers air time, allows for a brief match, puts over Burke's arrogance and Khali's size. In one segment. Trying to make an issue out of FBI playing heels to a Hardy Boys squash is fruitless. They are tweeners and it takes very little effort to make them defacto faces for that night in that hypothetical situation.

 

How many other wrestlers are in the company that I didn't mention? Balls Mahoney and Rene Dupree (both of which are hardly used now).

 

I included Holly/Striker/Dreamer/Sandman to open the show with the brawl. That is the entire roster unless they decide to debut new talent on the show (and we haven't seen any indication that they will). You can't count the Al Snows, CW Andersons, Shannon Moores and Danny Dorings of the roster.

 

You want one-on-one matches but what is worth the time, really? Other then Striker/Original and Holly/Original. It'll be the same match.

[Human Fly 0]

Here is another problem. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 faces from the undercard. Al Snow, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman and Balls. It is funny, with WWE and all of it's money ECW had a better roster 6 years ago. Do you honestly think they could run a PPV without any Raw or Smackdown wrestlers?

[Guest Jack Potts]

Barbwire bat? Methinks Test is going to try and carve Punk's tattoos away, Sabu's going to legdrop it by mistake, and Lashley's going to combine it with the chair to make a superweapon.

 

That last part was pretty funny. Although, during the EXTTREEEEME Elimination Chamber Match, I do think it would be a good spot for someone to pick up the barb wire bat and start wailing away on an opponent using the chair as a shield. Then he could hurl the chair like a bargain basement Captain America.

[Hawk 34 0]

Here is another problem. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 faces from the undercard. Al Snow, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman and Balls. It is funny, with WWE and all of it's money ECW had a better roster 6 years ago. Do you honestly think they could run a PPV without any Raw or Smackdown wrestlers?

If they didn't put all the main event acts in one match, it's possible. Would it sell? Different matter.

[razazteca 0]

Barbwire bat? Methinks Test is going to try and carve Punk's tattoos away, Sabu's going to legdrop it by mistake, and Lashley's going to combine it with the chair to make a superweapon.

 

That last part was pretty funny. Although, during the EXTTREEEEME Elimination Chamber Match, I do think it would be a good spot for someone to pick up the barb wire bat and start wailing away on an opponent using the chair as a shield. Then he could hurl the chair like a bargain basement Captain America.

Wonder Twins Powers activate! I can see Lashley posing in the corner powering up for the Spear only for Sabu to throw a chair at him during the charge and RVD coming out of nowhere kicking Lashley in the face with the chair to complete the Van Terminator supermove spot.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Rating was a 1.5.

[claydude14 0]

I like where this is headed, TNA has got a shot at surpassing them within the next few months.

[2GOLD 0]

Yeah, no they really don't. And I'm a TNA fan. They really don't have a shot at 1.5 in the next few months. Not to mention I think ECW will get a ratings jump when the new episodes of Eureka start back up. More of a hang around audience.

 

Plus Nip/Tuck is about to end and that could give them a small surge as well. Since DIRT doesn't seem like it's going to interest much of anyone, unless people were begging for "The Naked Truth: Drama edition".

 

I'm not making excuses for them, I don't even bother to watch ECW on SCIFI much anymore.

[Mecca 0]

TNA would at this point trade almost their entire roster to have someone who fans buy as a star like Punk.......funny how they had Punk once and blew that.

[Hawk 34 0]

TNA would at this point trade almost their entire roster to have someone who fans buy as a star like Punk.......funny how they had Punk once and blew that.

 

They do. Samoa Joe. Ironic that WWE didn't fuck up with Punk but TNA? Well, Joe should have been more.