razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2007 ...and Triples are just short HRs that hit the wall and bounce into the track. Come on now the utility players that do nothing but Steals or pitch hit need the Double stat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2007 I'm supposed to vote. I don't care either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2007 I'm supposed to vote. I don't care either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteakGrowsOnUecker 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2007 I vote for SLG%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2007 Vote for doubles GOSH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 OK, with 17 voting, Slugging Percentage wins and replaces Hits as the 6th offensive stat. Slugging: 9 Doubles: 4 Hits: 2 Abstain: 2 Like I said, I have Round 1 all ready to go, and will likely post it tomorrow evening, so everyone start paying attention because this thing will depend on cooperation to run smoothly. Any last minute pre-draft questions, let me know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 Are trades an option before/during the draft? Also from the I'm bored at work file, here are the keepers per round accounted for. Helped me at least as a guide to know what I am looking at drafting. Round 1 - 13 keepers/7 picks open (pick no. overall 1-7) Round 2 - 10/10 (8-17) Round 3 - 10/10 (18-27) Round 4 - 10/10 (28-37) Round 5 - 4/16 (38-53) Round 6 - 1/19 (54-72) Round 7 - 3/17 (73-89) Round 8 - 4/16 (90-105) Round 9 - 4/16 (106-121) Round 10 - 3/17 (122-138) Round 11 - 2/18 (139-156) Round 12 - no keepers (157-176) Round 13 - no keepers (177-196) Round 14 - 1/19 (197-215) Round 15 - no keepers (216-235) Round 16 - 2/18 (236-253) Round 17 - 2/18 (254-271) Round 18 - 2/18 (272-289) Round 19 - 3/17 (290-306) Round 20 - 6/14 (307-320) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 Hah, thanks for that, that actually helps make my life a little easier going forward too. I'm just going to say for the sake of expediency and clarity that we put a freeze on trades until the draft is over and teams are formed. We don't want this to turn into the NBA draft where I'm Commisioner Stern walking to the podium every 2 minutes to announce "we have another trade!" and get booed off (probably by angry Knick fans). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 sounds reasonable, I actually didn't realize until putting in the overall pick numbers that there were 320 picks to be made. Anything to shave time/keep order is not a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2007 I already decided who my pick is so lets go dammit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 If the draft is this week, you might as well give my team away. I'm going to be in Vegas from the 6th through the 13th, and there's no way I'm going to be checking my laptop every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Just do up a list like a Yahoo prerank and pm someone. I seriously doubt we get through the draft this week (I think 1/4-1/3 of the draft would be generous). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 So long as we retain a posting that only changes to reflect taken players so we all know... why not make a sheet and place the keepers in it and then just add once a day as people take them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krankor 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 If the draft is this week, you might as well give my team away. I'm going to be in Vegas from the 6th through the 13th, and there's no way I'm going to be checking my laptop every day. I doubt we would get done with more than 2 rounds. The NBA Keeper league takes almost half a week to get one round drafted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 I spaced my keepers out a bit (1-5-9-18). I got a steal in Brian McCann in the 18th too.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 If the draft is this week, you might as well give my team away. I'm going to be in Vegas from the 6th through the 13th, and there's no way I'm going to be checking my laptop every day. We're doing it this early because its going to take a long time. You don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick anyway, and I'd be happy to delay the start of the 3rd round until the 13th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 OK! Here we go. The Draft Order. As I said, we're doing this NBA Lottery Style. The 6 teams that made the playoffs last year are automatically seeded 15-20 in reverse order from their final standings. Here they are: 15. Serenity (thepinjockey) 16. Brockvegas Posse (treble) 17. Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne) 18. John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph) 19. Infinie93Intensity (Cena's Writer) 20. Cranky Old Men (iggymcfly) Now, for the rest of the teams, I used the same randomizer site I used last year, found here: http://www.mdani.demon.co.uk/para/random.htm I assigned numbers to the remaining teams, again based on reverse standings: THIS IS NOT THE DRAFT ORDER!!! 1. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots 2. Jack Bauer-Formally Wart’s Whackos 3. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars 4. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life 5. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course 6. Bored- Rebels of Oakland 7. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks 8. Krankor- The Random Hero 9. Will Scarlet- Komijul 10. Canadian Chris- Team Canada 11. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer 12. Fökai - Heavy Lumber 13. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk 14. MJ Styles- Rockbirds I then asked to generate 14 integers between 1 and 14 with no repeats. I clicked "GO" one time and the resulting output resulted in the order: 10 11 8 6 3 9 12 2 4 14 5 13 7 1 Once again, I did not fair so well, which should provide further credibility that this was done fairly and honestly and I guess build credit for one of these days when I'm given a top draft number. This resulted in the following DRAFT ORDER: 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer 3. Krankor- The Random Hero 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber 8. Jack Bauer-Formally Wart’s Whackos 9. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds 11. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course 12. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk 13. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks 14. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots 15. Serenity (thepinjockey) 16. Brockvegas Posse (treble) 17. Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne) 18. John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph) 19. Infinie93Intensity (Cena's Writer) 20. Cranky Old Men (iggymcfly) Obviously you all can keep your team names or change them when we actually set up the yahoo league, but I'm just using last year's names for now to keep track of things. Now, of course, because of our Keeper Rule, there will be different actual orders in many different rounds. SO, I thought about calculating it all out at once and posting it, before realizing this would be incredibly tedious for me and confusing for all of you to keep track of. SO, what we'll do is go round by round. I'll post the corrected Round 1 draft order, everyone will post their picks in order and then I'll log it and calculate Round 2's order, post it and then we'll continue in that way. By the way, we'll be following Yahoo's serpentine system so even if you're pickinglast, you'll be first every other round. Here are the list of Unavailable players via Keepers, conveniently in alphabetical order. Please simply do a check of this list to make sure a player you want to draft is not already taken. I will update the thread as new picks are made, so they can be checked as well (Edit-Find on this page is a great quick way to check). Taken Keepers: Aaron Harang (Round 11) Adam LaRoche (Pit - 1B)- ROUND 14 Albert Pujols (Round 1) Alex Rodriguez (Round 1) Alfonso Soriano (Round 2) Anibal Sanchez (Not Drafted) Aramis Ramirez (Round 3) BJ Ryan (Round 5) BJ Upton (Round 18) Bobby Abreu (Round 1) Boof Bonser (Not Drafted) Brad Lidge (Round 4) Brandon Webb (Ari - SP)- ROUND 4 Brett Myers (Round 4) Brian McCann (Round 18) Bronson Arroyo (Round 16) Carl Crawford (Round 1) Carlos Beltran (Round 2) Carlos Guillén (Det - SS)- ROUND 9 Carlos Zambrano (ChC - SP)- ROUND 2 Chase Utley (Round 2) Chipper Jones (Round 5) Chone Figgins (Round 2) Chris Capuano (Round 9) Chris Carpenter (Round 1-pushed to Round 4) Chris Ray (Round 11) Cole Hamels (Not Drafted) Dan Uggla (Not Drafed) David Ortiz (Round 1 David Wright (Round 1) Delmon Young (Round 16) Derrek Lee (ChC - 1B)- ROUND 1 Edwin Encarnacion (Round 17) Ervin Santana (Round 9) Frank Thomas (Round 17) Garrett Atkins (Round 8) Grady Sizemore (Round 3) Hanley Ramirez (Not Drafted) Huston Street (Round 4) Jake Peavy (Round 1-pushed to Round 3) Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF)- ROUND 10 Jim Thome (Round 7) Joe Mauer (Round 3) Joel Zumaya (Not Drafted) Johan Santana (Round 1) John Smoltz (Round 4) Johnny Damon (Round 4) Jonathan Papelbon (Round 10) José Contreras (Round 7) Jose Reyes (Round 2) Josh Johnson (Not Drafted) Juan Pierre (Round 3) Justin Morneau (Round 8) Justin Verlander (Round 19) Lance Berkman (Round 3) Manny Ramirez (Round 1) Mariano Rivera (Round 4) Mark Buehrle SP (Round 3) Matt Cain (Round 8) Matt Holliday (Round 7) Michael Young (Round 1) Miguel Cabrera (Round 1- pushed to Round 4) Miguel Tejada (Round 1) Nick Markakis (Not Drafted) Pat Burrell (Round 5) Paul Konerko (Round 3) Pedro Martinez (Round 1-pushed to Round 2) Rafael Furcal (Round 3) Rich Harden (Round 2) Rickie Weeks (Round 6) Roy Halladay (Round 2) Roy Oswalt (Round 1) Ryan Howard (Round 2) Scott Kazmir (Round 8) Scott Rolen (StL - 3B)- ROUND 5 Tom Gordon (Phi - RP)- ROUND 10 Travis Hafner (Round 3) Vernon Wells (Round 4) Vladimir Guerrero (Round 1) Any questions? OK. HERE is the Official Draft Order for ROUND 1: 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada 2. Will Scarlet- Komijul 3. Jack Bauer-Formally Wart’s Whackos 4. MJ Styles- Rockbirds 5. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course 6. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots 7. Brockvegas Posse (treble) ROUND 1 Keepers: Cranky Old Men (Iggmcfly): Albert Pujols Infinite93Intensity (Cena's Writer): David Ortiz John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph): Alex Rodriguez Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne): Roy Oswalt Serenity (thepinjockey): David Wright Kings of Crunk (Kingofthe909): Vladimir Guerrero Heavy Lumber (Bravesfan): Manny Ramirez Random Hero (Krankor): Michael Young NuclearChinlocks (Marvinsalunatic): Miguel Tejada Rebels of Oakland (Bored): Carl Crawford Midcard 4 Life (Razaztec): Bobby Abreu Scott Boras Allstars (Cuban Linx): Johan Santana Precious Roy: Derrek Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Um...why not just use the standings to determine draft order? Lottery's suck and the NBA draft sucks because of it. By far the worst record and I get 14th? silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Well, it's serpentine, so no one really benefits from a better pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Yes but there are a few game breaking players availible right now that won't be at my pick. Just seems like a real raw deal for the worst team to get the worst pick of non-playoff teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Wow, life is good. With the NUMBER ONE overall pick, Team Canada selects: Derek Jeter, SS, New York Yankees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Cartman, I can understand, but he did it randomly. It hurts and helps people evenly over the years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Wow, life is good. Indeed. The Komijul is taking Jason Bay, OF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Cartman, I can understand, but he did it randomly. It hurts and helps people evenly over the years Shenanigans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Should we do up a seperate thread for the draft with the ongoing results in the first post? A little easier to follow then having people go to the middle of page 4 to see what their status is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Cartman, I can understand, but he did it randomly. It hurts and helps people evenly over the years Shenanigans. Hurts me helps the establishment....what else is new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Um...why not just use the standings to determine draft order? Lottery's suck and the NBA draft sucks because of it. By far the worst record and I get 14th? silly. Cartman- as mentioned its serpentine so it won't hurt or help anyone that dramatically. It was done this way for the benefit of fairness to our 2 new managers. They would be taking over for last year's departing 2 and it wouldn't be fair for them to inherit those positions nor would it be fair for me to assign which one gets the "high" draft position and the "low" position relative to each other. It was truly random and I hope you understand my intention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Should we do up a seperate thread for the draft with the ongoing results in the first post? A little easier to follow then having people go to the middle of page 4 to see what their status is. Done. Continue picks and discussion in this thread though and we'll have the other one as an updated reference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 You think iggy still has anything to worry about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 You think iggy still has anything to worry about? Hah, I know. I've PMed Jack Bauer, he hasn't posted since Feb 1st. So...if anyone has any outside contact info for him, tell him to get his BUTT over here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites