CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 I'd have to see how something like that would work before commenting on it further, then. Initially, it just seems like the rosters would stay too static and bad teams wouldn't have a chance to improve because all the good players would be locked in for their entire careers, especially if they're players that got picked up on waivers when they were rookies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 All the bad teams have dibs on the waiver wire, so it would actually force commitment to paying attention to your team. Looking out for call ups and all that stuff. At the end it evens out because the better teams can't really pick up the next top prospect unless they get really lucky. And look at the top teams in the league right now. There's no given formula to what wins the most games. The top 4 teams have their teams built differently, so with this it lets you decide how to build a team and put even more thought to how you want to build your team. Like VG mentioned his team last year, i'd hate to see some of those players go because you can only keep four. With this it seems more like a baseball league, and you're more of a GM, which is cool. Plus the less people you keep, the more picks you have, and the bad teams have the first picks. I think it'd be better to know before the trade deadline too. That's why i'm asking now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Honestly, I do this for fun, not to worry about building a dynasty or anything. Coming back next year with half of the team the same to go into a draft where there are so many people kept you are going to the draft hoping to get an Aaron Hill in the first round (not a stretch considering he is currently ranked 123rd in Yahoo, while 160 players can be kept) doesn't seem fun to me. The draft is at least half the fun of fantasy leagues IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 If it's not for money. Than it should be for fun. I don't necessarily like the idea of 8 keepers. However, it does force you to show some patience with your roster. My choice would be a max of 6 keepers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 My choice would be a max of 6 keepers. I would have to agree. 8 seems like a little much, but 5 or 6 would mean a round or two less of "OMG! THIS DRAFT IS GOING SO SLOW!" and "WILL WE FINISH THIS DRAFT BY THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON!?!" which would be a good thing, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Not that I care that much but I think finalizing how many keepers there will be is fairly important to decide before the trade deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 6 keepers..? Duncan, Braun, Hart, Bedard, Nathan and ?? Then I have pains deciding over Guthrie or Willingham for the last spot. I was figuring on 4 and not being able to keep those two or Hart.. Also, I cant believe Im in 2nd place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 I'll toss in my agreement that I'd like to see 6 keepers max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krankor 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Eight is way too many. There's no way I could fill that requirement. I'd have to just keep some late round jobbers and just drop them after the draft was over. Five or six has to be the absolute max with a minimum of four keepers required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Six is cool I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Krankor gave a very solid explanation for the trade. I agree it would seem more "kosher" if it was a 5 for 5 deal, but its been said that 4 of the players would just be dropped anyway. Also the fact that both teams are well out of contention means it has little bearing on this year's playoffs. I'm all for the free market (with a little checks and balances in this case), so I'll allow it to go through. As for other topics, # of Keepers, Min. Innings Pitched and categories (namely holds) can all be addressed after the season. I understand though that # of Keepers could effect trading strategy before the deadline. SO, I will try to come to a consensus on that now. I agree expanding to 8 would be too much. You're basically holding out for rookies and 3rd tier players having big seasons at that point. I'd be willing to expand to 6 as a good solution. If anyone is against expanding to 6 and would like to keep it at 4 (or desperately feels we should expand to more than 6) just make your arguments in the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2007 I'd vote for 5 keepers, just with the idea of getting one more each year, and then maybe 6 the following season. If everyone wants to do 6 though, that's fine too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2007 My six keepers right know. Mauer (3) Utley (2) Young (7) Johnson (16) Carmona (18) Soria undrafted Oswalt, and Francis are still possiblities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2007 The current 6 keepers for the Gotham Harlequins - 1B/OF Michael Cuddyer (7 Pick) - OF Ichiro Suzuki (1 Pick) - 1B/3B/OF Kevin Youkilis (8 Pick) - SS Carlos Guillen (9 Keeper) - SP C.C. Sabathia (3 Pick) - SP Carlos Zambrano (2 Keeper) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2007 Current Keepers: David Ortiz David Wright Grady Sizemore Jeremy Bonderman Philip Hughes Jonathan Papelbon Subject to change! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2007 I have no clue who I want to keep, especially on the offensive side. Anyone want to make some trades? Pretty much anyone on my team is available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2007 Likely keepers at the moment: Johan Santana Jake Peavy Kelvim Escobar Hanley Ramirez Alex Rios Curtis Granderson Not keeping Alex Gordon will be hard though. If someone is looking for potential keepers Gordon (and everyone else outside that 6) is available, i can afford to give up a future star like Gordon if it can help me win this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 27, 2007 My keepers are Howard, Hafner, Hudson, Cabrera, Verlander and _________. I'd like to trade Garko to fill this blank, as I can't keep 3 1st basemen. Looking for a player that can net me some steals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2007 I'm really at a loss for keepers. Hunter Pence is the only lock at this point. Maybe Oliver Perez. I'd keep Okajima if they'd make him the closer for next year, but I doubt that'd happen, and I'm not keeping a guy just for holds. I agree with Krankor's idea of a minimum of four keepers and a maximum of 6. You should be able to turn your team over more or less than others if you so choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2007 1B Adrian Gonzalez SS Jimmy Rollins OF Magglio Ordonez OF Bobby Abreau SP John Maine SP Justin Germano Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 28, 2007 Scratch what I said, don't send me offers for Garko. I'll trade Hafner if I can get a definite keeper. If not, he'll go into the draft and the worst team will probably pick him. I would be retarded to trade an undrafted guy with a .911 OPS for junk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 29, 2007 I would prefer if this trade went through as quickly as possible so that I don't log in on Monday and see that I have an empty roster spot due to the trade going in right at the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2007 If nothing else, I still cant believe Im in first place. Anyway... Keepers Joe Nathan Round 2 Erik Bedard Round 4 Chris Duncan Round 11 Ryan Braun (Undrafted) Corey Hart (Undrafted) Brian McCann (Keeper from last year) Took Out Guthrie..Im not sold on him much any more..sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2007 It took the majority of the year, but Travis Hafner finally fills the black hole of suck i've had at 1st Base all year. Now i just need Ian Kinsler back and Jarrod Saltalamacchia to be traded to Texas so i can dump Bengie Molina and my offence will be looking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 30, 2007 And the trade got pushed through at 8 so I didn't have time to change my lineup. Fuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2007 You aren't alone on that one. Not too thrilled right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2007 Is there anyway the commissioner can set the line-ups after the fact? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Finally, my team's making a late-season push. I had my two best weeks of the season the last two weeks, beating what was a Top 3 team in John Galt Express 7-2, and then hammering the top team in the league (Team Canada) 12-0. It's going to be tough with so little time left, but I think I've got a legitimate shot to steal the last playoff spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Its nice to be in the playoff hunt again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 The worst part was, I couldn't have lost that badly to any other team. That was the sickest pitching week I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites