Kurt Angle Mark Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 Not by me. Neither to me. Spurs owned the Suns in 2004-05. Just like everyone said last year Spurs/Dallas was the real conference finals
Guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 There's hating on a team and there's willfull ignorance. I'd say that both apply to me, and nothing's going to change it.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 Actually I simply just forgot about the Spurs. Clearly they are very much in the hunt and could very well win the West. I don't see it happening though.
Ripper Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 The Suns were a guarantee to make the finals over the last two seasons. What happened there. Because Amare Stoudimire, Raja Bell, Kurt Thomas and Joe Johnson NEVER got hurt. The Spurs are as much of a threat as anyone, true, but I personally don't think they could beat Phoenix. I do think they could take Dallas, but it would take a 7 game series. And that OWNING of Phoenix was a 5 games series and most of the games came down to the last minute. All while missing Joe Johnson and LITERALLY no bench. Like, they were 5 deep. I guess you could kinda count Steven Hunter. Just like everyone said last year Spurs/Dallas was the real conference finals You can't be serious about that, can you?
Guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 My point is that picking a favorite is a futile process. Some things just happen. Sorry that I don't see the Spurs as being a great team like they were in the past, but the facts are that they've gotten older, lost depth, and lost size and rebounding. If you guys can't admit that, I can only tell you to be prepared for disappointment. Old teams get tired during playoff time.
alfdogg Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Posted March 6, 2007 It's not disappointment, I think the majority still expects Dallas or Phoenix to win it. I'm not seeing where the Spurs lost all this size and depth, though...they lost Mohammed and Nesterovic, and added Bonner, Elson, and later Melvin Ely. Are you saying this is a downgrade?
Ripper Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 My point is that picking a favorite is a futile process. Some things just happen. Sorry that I don't see the Spurs as being a great team like they were in the past, but the facts are that they've gotten older, lost depth, and lost size and rebounding. If you guys can't admit that, I can only tell you to be prepared for disappointment. Old teams get tired during playoff time. Not when they coast through the year using their deep bench. Like the SPurs have. I won't count them out. I just don't believe the "they are old" hype." Manu is a freak of nature, Tony Parker definately isn't old, and Tim is tim. They will still betere. The same way I think these two weeks off for Boris Diaw are going to be big when the Suns get in the playoffs. He will be fresh.
Guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 I'm going to be honest, I forgot about Melvin Ely. Bonner doesn't play "big". I only call one of these players "depth". Guess which one. Fabricio Oberto Matt Bonner Robert Horry Eric Williams Jacque Vaughn Melvin Ely 1 06:42 That's how much he's played since going there. Jackie Butler
Ripper Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 Fabrico Oberto often starts and Jacque Vaughn is the back up point guard. Michael Finley Robert Horry and Manu Ginobli all come off the bench too. So basically, Oberto, Vaughn, Finley, Horry and Ginobli. Thats 5 guys that get regular minutes outside of the starters of Elson, Duncan, Bowen, Barry, and Parker. And Matt Bonner gets minutes. They are consistantly playing 11 guys. They aren't going to get tired.
chaosrage Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 I think the Clippers have a good shot against the Suns. Honestly, what kind of drugs are you on? With the way the Clippers have been playing this season, what makes you think they have a good shot at even winning one game against Phoenix? They couldn't even beat a tired worn out (from having to just come back from 3-1 in a 7 game first round series) Suns team last year without Stoudimire and Kurt Thomas. Clippers have about as good of a chance beating the Suns as the Hornets do of beating Dallas.
Kurt Angle Mark Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 And that OWNING of Phoenix was a 5 games series and most of the games came down to the last minute. All while missing Joe Johnson and LITERALLY no bench. Like, they were 5 deep. I guess you could kinda count Steven Hunter. The Spurs were the only team that consistantly beat the Suns at their own game that season Spurs went 2-0 in the regular season when Duncan played, and the Suns barely beat the Spurs in the game Duncan missed
Ripper Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 And that OWNING of Phoenix was a 5 games series and most of the games came down to the last minute. All while missing Joe Johnson and LITERALLY no bench. Like, they were 5 deep. I guess you could kinda count Steven Hunter. The Spurs were the only team that consistantly beat the Suns at their own game that season Spurs went 2-0 in the regular season when Duncan played, and the Suns barely beat the Spurs in the game Duncan missed The Spurs beat the suns in a close game the first time they played that year. The next game, Nash didn't play and the Spurs blew out the suns. In the game after that, Duncan didn't play and the Suns blew out the Spurs(it was a 6 point win, but brent barry and Bruce bowen both hit meaninless threes at the end of the game and took it from 12-6.) So basically in the only game that the Spurs won, they won a close game, in overtime. The Spurs "owning" the suns simply didn't occur. In the playoffs they won one game by 7 points, game 2 by three points, game 3 by 10 points, and game 5 by 6 points. And alot of those points were paddings when the suns missed shots to tie and had to foul the rest of the way. People want to pretend that the Spurs just dominated the Suns that year and it simply wasn't true in the slightest.
razazteca Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 The Spurs OWN'd the Clippers Monday night in a blowout where Duncan only scored 9 points. Fear the all white boy line up of Manu, Beno, Oberto, Barry, Bonner!
Guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 I think the Clippers have a good shot against the Suns. Honestly, what kind of drugs are you on? The same drugs that told me the Lakers had a great chance against the Suns last year. What do you guys think having a chance means? That they're guaranteed to win the fucking series? Having a chance means that they could steal the series. Not that they're a lock to sweep the fucking thing. And all those Suns/Spurs games were really close.
Kurt Angle Mark Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 And all those Suns/Spurs games were really close. Yes they were Only the first game when the Spurs killed them 117-94 didn't come down to the last minute. However practically every other game followed the same pattern: It came down to the end and only the Spurs were able to clamp down defensely and get the stops to win the game. Everytime a game between them came down to the end I said to myself "let's see how the Spurs pull it off this time", and only in game 4 of their playoff series did the Spurs fail to do so. Therefore from my perspective the Spurs owned the Suns because not once did I actually believe that the Suns were going to beat the Spurs
Guest Queen Leelee Posted March 6, 2007 Report Posted March 6, 2007 The Lakers only came close against the Suns last year because of Odom. PHX had nobody that could matchup with him. Yet, you don't want him. Meh.
mike546 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 Marbury is a BEAST, complrtley carrying the Knicks right now. edit: SHIT. edit2: JINXED HIM CRAP.
Guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 In a very similar fashion, Kobe's killing the T-Wolves.
alfdogg Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Posted March 7, 2007 Mark Blount is 3-5 on three-pointers tonight. WTF
Open the Muggy Gate Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 Mavs win again. Win by a good margin. Pretty much unfuckwithable. Someone who knows their contracts, is Dallas set in place to be stable for a good while with their talent or do they have some free agent problems coming?
alfdogg Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Posted March 7, 2007 Dallas actually has the second-highest payroll in the league, behind the Knicks. Right now, they're $35 million+ over the cap, but they have Croshere & Stackhouse coming off, which is over $16 million, plus Diop & Devean George, which adds up to approx. $20 million coming off. Josh Howard's extension kicks in next year, as well, not sure how much he'll be making.
Precious Roy Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 They're in good shape. Dirk is locked up under a max deal, Josh Howard recently signed a long term extension, and Jason Terry re-signed this past off-season. Dampier's contract could be considered an albatross, but he has played reasonably, though somewhat inconsistently, well. The rest of the roster is fluid, Stack and Croshere have big contracts coming off the books soon, and the role guys like George and Buckner make peanuts. Devin Harris and Diop are on short-term deals, but the Mavs wouldn't have to break the bank to keep either. And with the attractiveness of their team and Cuban's willingness to spend money they really don't have to worry about overpaying anyone, they'll be in great shape through the prime years of their big 3.
Open the Muggy Gate Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 Thanks guys. I'll throw this one out there too. They are on pace to win 70 right now. Anyone think they can pull it off? Another streak like this to cap the season could do it for them.
Precious Roy Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 The crazy thing is that they lost 3 or 4 straight to start the season. I don't think they'll win 70, but who knows, it's certainly an attainable goal at this point. It says a lot for this Mavs team that they've been so consistent, Dirk and Avery Johnson especially, but at the same time this is not that good of a team in my eyes, so I think it says as much about the mediocrity and inconsistency of the rest of the league as it does about the Mavericks ability to sustain such a high level of play game after game. The Mavs are a good team with a great go-to player, but they shouldn't be .850 winning % good. You take the other NBA teams who've had these kind of seasons and they'd all wipe the floor with the Mavs.
Guest Vitamin X Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 Hey, the Blazers were actually up on the Spurs earlier, and are only within 3 right now with less than a minute to go. SA went on a sick 14-2 run to put them ahead, but Portland's keeping it close. Crazy. EDIT: N/m. Fuck San Antonio.
nogoodnick Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 I was at the Blazer game tonight and it was great. Well it was until the game winded down to the final 3 minutes and the Spurs hit like 4 straight threes. Tony Parker barely played but Michael Finley was a stone cold killer. I would say the Spurs have plenty of depth. Vaughn is serviceable, Barry isn't bad, and Udrih looks really good. Elson and Oberto aren't pretty, but fuck it they have Tim Duncan. Brandon Roy seems to be getting better every game and is going to be an All Star really soon.
Gert T Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 I'm a Jazz fan, but the Blazers are really fun to watch play. I am still shocked Charlotte went with Roy instead of Adam Morrison. Oh well their loss is Portland's gain. If Randolph can get motivated we'll be looking at a dangerous frontline in a couple years. Of course as a Jazz fan, I will not be looking forward to it.
razazteca Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 Hey, the Blazers were actually up on the Spurs earlier, and are only within 3 right now with less than a minute to go. SA went on a sick 14-2 run to put them ahead, but Portland's keeping it close. Crazy. EDIT: N/m. Fuck San Antonio. Spurs scored 35 points in the 4th to win the game! The Spurs bench scored 50+ points! GINOBILI dunked over 2 Blazers!
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