humanoid92 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2007 I was going to include Hogan vs. Sheik as well, except that whole thing really didn't have much to do with the Sheik's job. It was undoubtedly a historic moment and the beggining of Hulkamania, but it could have been almost anyboy jobbing in that slot and wouldn't have detracted from the moment whatsoever. That match was about a lot of things, but the reason it was so big, in my opinion, wasn't primarily because the Sheik did the job. It wasn't who did the job as much as the manner in which it happened. I agree, but that's why I'm not sure if it belongs on the list. I'd put it as one of the top victories ever, but I don't know about one of the top jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corkscrew_Senton 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2007 It might be worth adding to the list if the rumors about Gagne offering Sheik a hefty bribe to injury Hulk are true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2007 20. Bret Hart over Yokozuna (WMX) -This is a bit of a different selection but I’ve always seen this match as the definitive match that put Bret over as the signature main event act for the WWF. Even during his first title reign, he still lacked that aura that could put him in a category with Hogan. Heading towards his first WM main event, the focus was on Hogan and even after Hogan’s departure, Luger became the centerpiece of the promotion despite Hart clearly being the top face for the company. Bret’s victory over Yokozuna cemented him as the top dog for the company leaving Luger in the dust that night. 19. Eddie Guerrero over Brock Lesnar (No Way Out 2004) -The aftermath of Eddie’s reign being rendered short doesn’t expunge this moment. Guerrero was still a hard sell as a main event name although he was obviously quite over with the crowd. Mostly in part because of his size but also for his persona. This match established that Guerrero wasn’t just a high-flyer but a consummate wrestler by outsmarting the man whom had been nothing but dominant since his arrival just a couple short years before. 18. Sting Draws Ric Flair (COTC 1) -Sting drawing Flair put Sting over as a top shelf contender and propelled him from lingering mid-card act to main event. Granted, Flair made a lot of people look good and drew many others but Sting, whom in some respects failed to really reach the pinnacle of what he could have in this role was still a key component of NWA/WCW and this match, though technically not a “job”, did immensely to institute Sting’s place. 17. Mike Awesome over Taz and Tanaka -Yes. Taz was leaving and that wasn’t a secret but that doesn’t diminish the effect of what this night managed. In a rare example of a non-announced match/participant inserting himself into the match despite very little connection to the champion, Awesome reappeared in ECW as a surprise and instead of being a fall-boy to Tanaka as some might have expected, he went over each men. Taz bowed out quickly to each wrestler, leaving the title change to be the big issue rather then his impending departure. The dominant machine was put away almost instantly and that did much to bolster Awesome within the company. 16. Yokozuna over Hulk Hogan (KOTR 1993) -It wasn’t clean but that’s beside the point. Hogan didn’t just job. While that in itself was a rarity, he was never decimated in this manner. After years of monster heels vowing to destroy Hulkamania, Yokozuna did just that in a big way. To slam the door in the proverbial face of Hulkamania, Yokozuna finished him off with an emphatic leg drop and sent him back to cable TV. 15. Vader over Sting (GAB 1992) -Similar to the previous entry, the monster heel steamrolled through the top mega-baby face. Vader was a machine unlike any other and Sting was the perfect punching bag. Sting did a top shelf performance in taking a beating and putting Vader on the map for good. 14. Brock Lesnar over The Undertaker (No Mercy 2002) -It’s a dispute to determine which job did more for Lesnar, Undertaker’s or Rock’s. Some might even argue that The Big Show did more for Lesnar but that’s beside the point. Despite rushing through The Rock and looking like a million bucks in the process, in 2002, The Undertaker was the big man on campus. The Rock, appropriately enough was a supporting act. Lesnar was still young and the fan base was still adjusting to it. In the same vein of Vader-Sting, this was the match that established Lesnar. Beating the Dead Man in his yard was major for Lesnar. 13. Goldberg over Hulk Hogan (7.6.98) -The most famous night of Nitro and perhaps one of the biggest example of the mass stupidity from those in charge. However that shouldn’t hinder the significance of this night. After going through another relative big name in Scott Hall, Goldberg got the shot at Hogan on national television in front of a rabid home crowd. Hogan went down and put over Goldberg huge. In fact, if it hadn’t been given away for free, this could have easily been a mega draw that would have matched with some of the top WWF events. You can also claim that Goldberg did more with this job then Warrior did. Warrior was a victim of his own circumstance, Goldberg was ruined by politics and rampant stupidity. 12. CM Punk draws Samoa Joe (6.12.04) -Another example of a draw putting someone on the map in a specific manner. First off, Punk was already a established star for the ROH promotion but had spent the majority of that time beloved for his brilliant promo work and storylines with Raven, Daniels and Steamboat in addition to his excellent brawls. This match, the first and weakest of the infamous trilogy changed that perception in a significant way. This event occurred in Dayton, OH which was a poor market for the promotion and it’s generally accepted that this was going to be the final event held in that town. ROH was still hurting from the scandal that robbed them of many stars such as Chris Daniels and AJ Styles but in their departure arrived CM Punk whom stuck with ROH. This match shifted the company focus back on quality wrestling by creating a tremendous buzz for the promotion saving a viable market for ROH. At the same time, it cemented Punk’s status as a top wrestler for the company. 11. Batista over Triple H (Vengeance) -Triple H putting people over at WM has became something of a annual tradition aside from his stunning victory at WMXVI and his shut down of Booker T which is generally regarded as the most meaningless match in an impressive streak of WM matches for The Game. However, Batista was a surprise. Just months before, Batista was merely a back-up role to Triple H and Flair and played their muscle-man and showed little personality aside from his posh fashion sense. Something clicked and Batista shot up and the crowd clamored for him to take down HHH. WMXXI did a great job of putting Batista as the top dog but it was the decisive third edition inside the HIAC that gave Batista a huge standing. Like Warrior with Hogan, Batista wasn’t able to maintain the level he reached by that victory but the effort from HHH did much to give Batista that opportunity and credibility. 10. Tommy Dreamer over Raven (6.6.97) -Quite possibly the greatest storyline not just in ECW history but in the last 20 years of professional wrestling with only a handful of legitimate contenders to that claim. Like in other cases here, the losing party was on his way out but again that doesn’t discount this moment. After years of an incredible chase and battle-scarred hatred between these two, Dreamer got that long awaited pinfall victory over Raven. 9. Hulk Hogan over Iron Sheik (1.23.84) -Instantly put Hogan in the driver’s seat of the promotion for the next decade and propelled WWF to reach the first national mainstream boom for pro wrestling. Hulk came off looking like something from the future and truly larger then life. Sheik, the mega heel just put him over huge. 8. Austin Aries over Samoa Joe (Final Battle 2004) -Samoa Joe was PRO WRESTLING. Aries concluded his stunning and rapid rise in the ROH promotion. Many people wondered if Joe could never lose during his amazing reign. After putting down top stars in Homicide, Punk, Danielson, Styles, London and others, Austin Aries got his first shot and made the most of it. Aries was a top heel but his victory still remains one of the biggest pops in the history of ROH. Not only did Joe put over Aries in a big way by getting soundly defeated, he put him over in a honest manner after the match, cementing him as the head of the table in ROH. 7. Mankind over The Undertaker (KOTR 96) -Mankind came in completely different from anything we’d ever seen in pro wrestling and dominated the Dead Man. Undertaker easily went over big monsters and names but he was susceptible to Mankind. 6. Triple H over Mick Foley (Royal Rumble/No Way Out 2000) -This was a double dose. HHH was already the main eventer but still lacked that emphasis needed in a star. Foley gave that to Hunter in a gigantic way. Foley took two hellacious beatings at the hands of HHH and in the eyes of the fans, HHH was the real deal. It wasn’t Austin or Rock that sold HHH to the fans. It was Mick Foley. HHH took these wins and established a historic career. Without these two wins, HHH might never been the star he is. 5. Steve Austin over Shawn Michaels (WMXIV) -Like most of these selections, this was a foregone conclusion. This isn’t the match that put Austin on that map or at least on the road (that was the year before with Bret). This match ushered in his era, or rather kick started it into full overdrive. 4. Bret Hart over Steve Austin (WMXIII) -The one match that is included in favor of the loser. Austin was picking up steam before this match but without question, this made him. He didn’t defeat Bret but he didn’t take a pinfall or submit. This match did everything it could to change to climate of the business, Austin’s path and the direction we’d see pro wrestling take. The importance of this match is monumental. 3. Ultimate Warrior over Hulk Hogan (WMVI) -This should have begat a new era but it didn’t. It would turn into a brief holding position before Hogan resumed his place. That being said, this was big. In what was a supreme rarity, we witnessed the two biggest faces in head to head competition not just in front of a monstrous and rabid split crowd but on the biggest stage in the business. The match was orchestrated perfectly and made Warrior look like gold although it was well-crafted to keep Hogan strong. What keeps this so high on a list in spite of the blatant politics in the post-match and the staggering failure that followed is the moment itself. 2. WWE over WCW -It might seem silly since this isn’t actually a match but these two promotions waged war for many years and changed the reality of the business in a staggering manner. WCW lost the war and in doing so, altered WWE’s direction for years to come. Some would claim, for the worse. What this did however was connect decades of wrestling history into one collective unit. 1. Hulk Hogan over Andre The Giant -The biggest night perhaps ever in the history of the business with two of the biggest mainstream names to ever exist at the very height of the first national wrestling boom. Hogan was obviously a rock solid main event super star but this was the passing of the torch like no other. Andre was on his way down but he did tremendously well at getting Hogan look so good on such a huge level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 Khali over Undertaker at Great American Bash 2006 - UT did his best to sell for Khali eventually getting killed by the judo chop from hell and getting pinned by one leg one the less! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2007 One people seem to have missed (unless I skimmed over it): Rob Van Dam over Bam Bam Bigelow, TV Title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2007 It might be worth adding to the list if the rumors about Gagne offering Sheik a hefty bribe to injury Hulk are true. Meltzer said it was 100% true. Gagne offered Sheik $100,000 to break Hogan's leg during the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robrabies Report post Posted April 24, 2007 It might be worth adding to the list if the rumors about Gagne offering Sheik a hefty bribe to injury Hulk are true. Meltzer said it was 100% true. Gagne offered Sheik $100,000 to break Hogan's leg during the match. And then he could hire Sheik to the AWA, where he would constantly just miss out on the title through screwjob finishes so the strap remained on Nick Bockwinkel. That guy was such a douchebag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Ivan Koloff over Bruno Sammartino (1/18/71) Did nothing for Koloff though, he was only used as an transitional champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Ivan Koloff over Bruno Sammartino (1/18/71) Did nothing for Koloff though, he was only used as an transitional champion. Did nothing for him in the WWWF, but it made his career everywhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naked Snake 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2007 This is my type of thread! Hogan over Andre Warrior over Hogan Austin over Michaels Goldberg over Hogan Michaels over Hart Triple H over Cactus Jack (Rumble '00) Hogan over Shiek Brock over Rock Rude over Warrior Benoit over HHH and Michaels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Ivan Koloff over Bruno Sammartino (1/18/71) Did nothing for Koloff though, he was only used as an transitional champion. Did nothing for him in the WWWF, but it made his career everywhere else. Exactly. Actually as far as WWWF, Sammartino/Koloff drew big money as a return engagement in 1975, headlining MSG on three consecutive months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2007 Most of the good ones have been mentioned, but with one huge ommission. This would actually be my #1, but it's understandable since it's the WWE folder. Misawa over Jumbo Tsuruta. It;s sort of like Hogan Andre WMIII with two incredible wrestlers, instead of two shitty wrestlers. Jumbo is the shit. His only real competition comes in the form of big mean Americans. Misawa is an up and comer. It's really his story in this match. He's not a bad guy, but he treats Jumbo with utter direspect, in a sort of desperate attempt to GET respect from Jumbo. He's fighting on desperation, flying all over the place, and then slapping Jumbo to prove his point. The slaps to the face really do tell a story. Jumbo just looks horrified, not pissed, and Misawa almost looks imploring. "Take me seriously!" Misawa basically goes nuts here, going up to the top maybe 10 times. He is just dogged. What makes this match really special is, 1) Misawa would bee the domintating force in AJPW/NOAH for a dcade, 2) Although Jumbo was awesome, Misawa wrestled so freakin' hard, that he made Jumbo look, honestly, old. This heralded in the new age of AJPW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2007 First of all, original plan or not, Eddie didn't last long as champion. Second of all, because the Rock was a part timer by that point. He had just come back around June (for a week or two), left, then came back to win that belt in a triple threat. He was obviously not going to retain over Brock. Taker on the other hand, lost in a Hell in a Cell match that up to the point he had been undefeated in, pretty cleanly, to Brock. Then Taker stuck around, Rock didn't. if you want to be by the books here, actually Taker didnt stick Around, he went on vacation untill the rumble (in real life cuz of his wife giving birth, on tv, big show debuted on SD and threw Taker off the stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2007 First of all, original plan or not, Eddie didn't last long as champion. Second of all, because the Rock was a part timer by that point. He had just come back around June (for a week or two), left, then came back to win that belt in a triple threat. He was obviously not going to retain over Brock. Taker on the other hand, lost in a Hell in a Cell match that up to the point he had been undefeated in, pretty cleanly, to Brock. Then Taker stuck around, Rock didn't. if you want to be by the books here, actually Taker didnt stick Around, he went on vacation untill the rumble (in real life cuz of his wife giving birth, on tv, big show debuted on SD and threw Taker off the stage. I hope you're not actually likening the Taker's absence to the Rock's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2007 First of all, original plan or not, Eddie didn't last long as champion. Second of all, because the Rock was a part timer by that point. He had just come back around June (for a week or two), left, then came back to win that belt in a triple threat. He was obviously not going to retain over Brock. Taker on the other hand, lost in a Hell in a Cell match that up to the point he had been undefeated in, pretty cleanly, to Brock. Then Taker stuck around, Rock didn't. if you want to be by the books here, actually Taker didnt stick Around, he went on vacation untill the rumble (in real life cuz of his wife giving birth, on tv, big show debuted on SD and threw Taker off the stage. I hope you're not actually likening the Taker's absence to the Rock's. no Im not, just being a dumbass nitpicker I guess , sorry dude. You infact do make a valid point there that I must agree with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites