Guest jlvideo Report post Posted May 7, 2007 I guess i wasn't suprised that yankees are the team that gets clemens. I mean they have 2 guys on the dl and their teamisn't doing good now. Except reading they signed the 45 year old to a $28 million for 1 year. I hope they go the way of Astros last year and spend alot of money. And where did it get houston. Nowhere. I wished roger would have finished his career where he started in boston.. I could see disuke,beckett,schilling,wakefiled,and clemens. That would have been great. I guess george opened his wallet and roger probably tooki it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 I was at least 110% sure that Clemens would return to Houston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 I'm a big Clemens fan so personally I'm psyched to see him back in pinstripes. And I think it's pretty silly to say that he won't have a noticable impact. Moose, Pettitte and Wang are the only "sure things" in the rotation and 2 out of the 3 have already been injured. The stability and presence of Clemens alone will be a huge shot in the arm to this team. That said, the money is freakin absurd and I can't fault people for going crazy about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 Now ESPN, like SNY before, is saying that Clemens is getting the sweetheart fancy free go home when I want deal from the Yankees, that YES said he is not. Edit. Also, apparently Big Stein said something to Clemens that "touched his heart" that he won't talk about till the season is over. PLEASE GOD don't let them retire his number in Monument Park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 (edited) In all seriousness, looking at Clemens' pitching stats make me wonder. He moved to Houston for three years and suddenly became ridiculously dominant, as far beyond any established norm as Barry Bonds. Even avoiding the steroid acquisitions, he was an above-average pitcher the last time he pitched for the Yankees. Even if he continues his Houston numbers, he's worth about three wins over average the rest of the way. I don't think this significantly changes the divisional race. This is how I feel as well. It'll certainly help the rotation (ANY decent pitcher would right now), but any "saviour" talk is going a bit too far. They need back of the rotation guys like Igawa to start pulling their weight more than anything Clemens can give them. But this much is clear: Brian Cashman's job depends on how this works out. EDIT II: Why did Clemens pitch just 113 innings last year? Was there an injury? Edited May 7, 2007 by KingPK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted May 7, 2007 In all seriousness, looking at Clemens' pitching stats make me wonder. He moved to Houston for three years and suddenly became ridiculously dominant, as far beyond any established norm as Barry Bonds. Even avoiding the steroid acquisitions, he was an above-average pitcher the last time he pitched for the Yankees. Even if he continues his Houston numbers, he's worth about three wins over average the rest of the way. I don't think this significantly changes the divisional race. This is how I feel as well. It'll certainly help the rotation (ANY decent pitcher would right now), but any "saviour" talk is going a bit too far. They need back of the rotation guys like Igawa to start pulling their weight more than anything Clemens can give them. But this much is clear: Brian Cashman's job depends on how this works out. EDIT II: Why did Clemens pitch just 113 innings last year? Was there an injury? Not starting until the season is half over-itus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 In hilarious irony, the Mets have an upcoming promotion at Shea Stadium - free flashlight night. Still better than "free beer and drive home talking on your cell phone without a seatbelt" night at Busch Stadium. Not one of your better moments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vivalaultra 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 That and the fact that he threw about 20-25 pitches an inning on average. He made 19 starts and went over 5 innings in like...10 of them and over 6 innings in 5 of them. Having 87 pitches thrown in the 4th inning is not going to bode well in the monstrous AL East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Clemens can now join Pettite and they both can go fuck themselves. Clemens just pissed on having his number retired by the yankees, future yankee stadium celebrations and any chance he had into going into the hall of fame as a yankee. Fuck you clemens I pray to god that you stink the joint up like the way you did against boston and the marlins in the playoffs. You almost cost your team the pennant and you cost your team the world series. Fuck you old man. Asshole fuck made us care about him and then turned his back on us. In the words of Meatloaf in the movie, Formula 51... "He fucked us, we're truly ass invaded". If Shithead Clemens did anything good in all of this, it was to teach me nott develop an emotional attachment to a sports team. I can't wait for Clemens to fuck the Astros like he has everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 Bring back Anglesault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 I was teasing my Yankee fan friends about that. One of my friends said he wouldn't root for Clemens as a player, he just roots for the team. Lol Yankee fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 "Root for the laundry" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 I don't think Cashman's job is on the line. At least, it shouldn't be. He spent his first offseason in true control of the team by rectifying dumb moves of the Steinbrenner/Tampa Fac-gime as well as reducing the payroll, while Boston increased theirs: 1) Re-signed Andy Pettitte to a 1 year deal in hopes of bridging to the future of the rotation (Hughes, Clippard, etc) 2) Traded injured/disgruntled/Abreu-made-obsolete Gary Sheffield for young arms 3) Traded injured/old/disgruntled Randy Johnson for bullpen help and minor leaguers 4) Traded injured/bad/injured Jaret Wright for a decent bullpen chip in Chris Britton, currently in AAA Blame also can't be placed on him for losing the Matsuzaka bidding, as well as the Igawa signing, which was clearly a Steinbrenner influenced decision to try and match what the Sawx did. One thing he did not do was to sure-up the bench (I hate the Meintkeiwicz signing, and getting Phelps in the Rule V hamstrings them with him on the big club all season and three 1Bs on the roster), but replacements/pinch hitters/pinch runners for this lineup are a rarity anyway. Keeping Melky Cabrera was a big non-move, since Matsui has already been on the DL and Damon is all sorts of banged up, plus Abreu is in his free agent year. Cashman is also a big backer of Mattingly, who was promoted from hitting coach to bench coach in an obvious move to groom him for Torre's job. We've already seen 3 Torre bench coaches become managers (Lee Mazzilli, Willie Randolph, Joe Girardi). I think it was also a great move to bring Girardi back to the fold (he's an announcer on YES, whoever's move it was), giving them a nice yet tough decision on the next manager, if Girardi doesn't get another offer in 2008. My gut says Torre is safe, since injury and AAA-call up ineffectiveness has in turn warn out the bullpen, and Stein is not what he used to be in his pre-Torre revolving door of managers hey day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted May 7, 2007 You know, Anglesault is always the token over the top Yankee fan we recall, and for many reasons, but Cpac gets overlooked too often. That quote from the Clemens thread was gold, and the famous one from after the Red Sox won the 04 ALCS is an all-time classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 7, 2007 "Root for the laundry" "For the pinstripes BABY. I bleed blue on my white shirt." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2007 Darn tootin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites