the pinjockey Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 They are trying to keep the costs down by not allowing year long holdouts by forcing the 8/15 date and giving the teams some leverage with compensation that they aren't crushed if a high pick doesn't sign. And Harvey goes to Anaheim who never shy away from busting slot.
Cheech Tremendous Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 Houston passed on Harvey, so it looks like he is down to a late round flier who probably won't sign. Have to imagine if someone was willing to pay him by 8/15 he would have been taken by now. Angels take him at 118. EDIT: Beaten to it.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Posted June 7, 2007 Teams have always gotten compensation for not signing a player. The Orioles got Garrett Olson in 2005 as compensation for not signing Wade Townsend.
the pinjockey Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 I'm surprised that if they wanted him they would wait til after Houston's pick.
the pinjockey Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 Wasn't it a sandwich pick though instead of the new one spot drop?
Cheech Tremendous Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 I don't like the fact that they got rid of draft and follows and I don't much care for compensatory picks for guys who don't sign. Why are they screwing with the draft in the first place? In the case of the former, it's mainly eliminating the year long holdouts, a welcome development in my view. The compensation picks are generally a good way for small-market teams to rebuild, and they just simplified the process a tad. I can just see some of the cheaper teams taking a guy they have no intention of signing just to bank a pick for the following year.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 8, 2007 Report Posted June 8, 2007 Teams have always gotten compensation for not signing a player. The Orioles got Garrett Olson in 2005 as compensation for not signing Wade Townsend. Townsend got drafted again by TB and blew out his elbow..hmm. Olson could/should be in the rotation as early as next year too. I wonder if I'll get to see Matt Wieters play here in Delmarva this season or not..I heard hes gonna go to Bowie (AA). Im surprised they went with him since PA hates Boras but they lost 2nd/3rd rd picks with Baez (ugh) and Bradford signings so I guess picking a guy thats getting compared to Joe Mauer is ok with me as long as they can sign him by 8/15.
Vern Gagne Posted June 8, 2007 Report Posted June 8, 2007 Who will reach the majors first? I'll say Daniel Moskos of the Pirates. A left-handed reliever out of Clemson.
Guest Tzar Lysergic Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Hey, this kid Arizona drafted is from the town I work in. Good for him. http://www.news-banner.com/index/news-app/story.7448
Cheech Tremendous Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 In his chat today, Jim Callis of Baseball America said that the Boston Red Sox had the best overall draft. There are a lot of hard signs in that group though, so things could obviously change between now and the deadline. Also mentioned that the Yankees had an exceptional draft. I guess the rich keep getting richer. Other notes: Doesn't think that Porcello will sign with the Tigers and Andrew Brackman might need elbow surgery.
Vern Gagne Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 I'd be interested in seeing who had the best draft 5 years ago, 10 years ago.
Cheech Tremendous Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 In the Baseball America annual, they list rankings for the last three drafts. I think around 5 years ago, teams like Milwaukee and Atlanta were being praised for their drafts. As far as 10 years ago, I don't know. Those players would already be out their team's respective systems by now anyways.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Posted June 13, 2007 I'd be interested in seeing who had the best draft 5 years ago, 10 years ago. Then or now?
Mik Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 Keith Law just did a review of the 2002 draft on ESPN.com. It's insider so I won't bother linking it. It's a rather long article, breaking down each pick and sorting the busts and great picks, etc. Here's the top and bottom 5: Top: 1. D-Rays (B.J. Upton, Elijah Dukes) 2. Marlins (Jeremy Hermida, Scott Olsen, Josh Johnson) 3. Giants (Matt Cain) 4. Dodgers (Russ Martin, Jonathan Broxton, James Loney) 5. Mets (Kazmir and Lindstrom - both on other clubs whoops) Bottom: 1. Cubs 2. Mariners 3. Astros 4. D-Backs 5. Rangers If you're interested in this sort of thing and have insider it's definitely worth reading.
Vern Gagne Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 I'd be interested in seeing who had the best draft 5 years ago, 10 years ago. Then or now? I'd be more interested in then.
Conspiracy_Victim Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 The Astros drafted a kid who used to be the ball boy for my high school when I played football there. No point, just reflecting on how damn old I'm getting.
Vern Gagne Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 I always feel old when you see the son of guy you remember watching being drafted.
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 Preston Mattingly last year. Guys even in the bigs already, like Josh Barfield, Prince Fielder, and Tony Gwynn Jr.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Posted June 14, 2007 Gary Gaetti's got a son at Triple AAA. I just saw Gaetti the elder in AAA. He's coaching Durham. Rating drafts immediately after they happen cracks me up. You've got 30 teams who have staffs of 10-15 people who do practically nothing but rate amateur players for the purpose of the draft. Then you have one person like Keith Law (who I respect), who feels he knows enough about all the players that he can do a better job evaluating them than the teams themselves.
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