The College Football Thread 9/13 - 9/15

[teke184 0]

I hope next week's win is by a few dozen points and our running back scores at least ten touchdowns. Then Wisconsin wont be so weak.

You're playing an Iowa team next week that's coming off a loss to Iowa State of about 15-13.

 

 

Something tells me that Iowa's offense (16 vs. Northern Illinois, 35 vs. Syracuse, 13 vs. Iowa State) won't be in the same league as theirs.

 

 

 

The majority of the ragging of Wiscy, though, comes from the fact that teams like UNLV and Citadel should be *EASY* wins that should be socked away by halftime, not a 20-13 win and a game tied 21-all at the half.

 

 

Wiscy put it together by the end of the Citadel game, but I rag on them for being tied 21-all with Citadel at the half the same way I rag on Ohio State for being up 3-2 on Akron at the half.

[teke184 0]

I'm just hoping for a good national title game (and I think it will be a good one). They've been hit or miss since the BCS started.

Depends on how things fall out.

 

 

The winner of LSU-Florida should be in the game, provided they don't lose in the likely rematch in the SEC Title Game.

 

(The only other teams threatening for a spot in the title game are South Carolina and Alabama.)

 

 

Oklahoma looks ready to run the table, as Texas is VERY overrated this year and the rest of the Big 12 looks disappointing.

 

 

USC is talented enough, but running the table in the Pac 10 may not happen this year. (Cal and Oregon look good, as does Arizona State.)

[Guest]

We are forgetting about Illinois, they won today and are now 2-1 I got a feeling they are gonna be a sleeper team

Illinois is awful. They beat Western Illinois and Syracuse. Whoop-de-doo. How bad the Big Ten is could get them to a bowl, though.

[teke184 0]

We are forgetting about Illinois, they won today and are now 2-1 I got a feeling they are gonna be a sleeper team

Illinois is awful. They beat Western Illinois and Syracuse. Whoop-de-doo. How bad the Big Ten is could get them to a bowl, though.

Which would be like Michigan State during the Saban years (roughly 1995-1999)...

 

They'd fill up on cream-puffs in the non-conference schedule and the early conference schedule, then get ass-surfed by teams like Michigan and their bowl opponent.

[Guest]

It's like Bama the last couple of years.

 

Sorry Bama fans, of which there is one on this board.

[teke184 0]

It's like Bama the last couple of years.

 

Sorry Bama fans, of which there is one on this board.

I won't argue that one.

 

Arkansas did the same thing last year... they lost to USC, ripped off 10 straight victories, then got summarily ass-fucked by LSU, Florida, and Wisconsin in consecutive games.

[Guest]

Less and less teams have been doing it since Auburn lined up Louisiana-Monroe, The Citadel and Louisiana Tech and couldn't get to the title game. Which is what they deserved, since I can't stand when teams do that shit. I hated seeing SC play Idaho.

[teke184 0]

Less and less teams have been doing it since Auburn lined up Louisiana-Monroe, The Citadel and Louisiana Tech and couldn't get to the title game. Which is what they deserved, since I can't stand when teams do that shit. I hated seeing SC play Idaho.

Teams may put patsies on the schedule, but they attempt to secure at least one decent (read: mid-level or better BCS team) on the schedule each year.

 

 

Even when teams do schedule patsies, they tend to go for the higher teams in the MAC, Sun Belt, and other minor conferences instead of the true bottom-dwellers like Florida-International, Florida-Atlantic, Utah State, etc.

 

(There are always exceptions, which tend to be geographic in nature.

 

Ex- LSU, as a rule, plays 1 in-state public school per year, such as UL-Monroe, UL-Lafayette, or LA Tech.

 

They've also put Tulane on the schedule for the foreseeable future, but that's to resume an old feud between the schools that goes back to both universities' first games.)

[Guest]

It doesn't bother me as much when a team schedules a cupcake and then Washington like Ohio State did. I prefer seeing teams schedule a team like Fresno State at home, going on the road for a mid-major Mountain West or WAC team, and one other top 25 team. Rutgers OOC schedule is a joke and a half. I don't expect teams to go out and get a schedule like Colorado did earlier in the decade, but have some decency and play some teams (or a team) worth a shit. Rutgers has all those non-conference games and they play Navy, Buffalo, Norfolk State, Army and Maryland. Do they expect to get in the title game if they happen to run the table with that trash lineup?

 

I sure as hell hope they don't for their sake. West Virginia did the same thing, but I don't have much doubt that they could get through a tougher schedule. But when those teams schedule weak teams to start out, it usually bites them in the ass anyway. Rutgers is going to play South Florida after their walk-throughs in the first few weeks, notice that they're playing a team that has their shit together and knows how to play against competition, and Rutgers is going to get stomped. It happens to all of 'em, just like Louisville tonight.

[Angel_Grace_Blue 0]

Of course, the year before Auburn went undefeated, they played USC and Ga. Tech in the first two games, and the Trojans dick kicked them so hard the Tigers didn't score an offensive touchdown for a month. Which is probably why they put shit teams on the schedule that next year (But didn't learn the year later, as once again, Tech whomped AU. Should've greased the railroad tracks again, silly Plainsmen).

 

In other news, how close is Colt Brennan to throwing for enough yards to traverse the globe? Like, fifty?

[teke184 0]

Some of that is due to the expectations of the program and some of that is financial.

 

 

TCU, in the mid-to-late 1990s, jettisoned games against top teams from their schedule in preparation for a rebuilding.

 

By the time LaDamian Tomlinson was their stud RB, they were winning games left and right but had a very soft schedule that left them open to cracks about them ducking big teams.

 

 

 

Rutgers was in the same boat until the last two years, when they went from a team on the verge of a bowl to a team fighting for a conference title.

 

 

 

The financial part is along the lines of teams not wanting to play in Rutgers' stadium because the attendance isn't what they could get elsewhere, meaning the payouts are smaller.

 

Kansas State gets the same problems because they're out in the middle of bumfuck and have a small stadium.

 

[Secret Agent 0]

Excuse me for being late to the party, but I just check ESPN's scoreboard and there must be an error. It says Utah hung 44 points on UCLA for the 'W'.

[teke184 0]

Excuse me for being late to the party, but I just check ESPN's scoreboard and there must be an error. It says Utah hung 44 points on UCLA for the 'W'.

No error there...

 

Just like it's not a misprint that Duke actually beat Northwestern to snap a 20-someodd game losing streak.

[Guest]

Rutgers was in the same boat until the last two years, when they went from a team on the verge of a bowl to a team fighting for a conference title.

 

 

 

The financial part is along the lines of teams not wanting to play in Rutgers' stadium because the attendance isn't what they could get elsewhere, meaning the payouts are smaller.

 

Rutgers could still travel. They only play one road game before week 9. I don't blame K-State, because as you said, their stadium is in the middle of nowhere. They don't have much of a problem traveling recently, at Auburn and at Fresno this year. They used to schedule some awful programs, though, when they were consistently a top 25 team. Pre BCS mostly, so there wasn't any incentive to get out and do something, other than pride, anyway.

[teke184 0]

I understand, but scheduling for *most* teams is set in stone pretty far in advance, save 1-2 games that change at the last minute.

 

 

Even if Rutgers dropped Norfolk State from the schedule and tried to pick up a different team this week, who would have been available even if they had 8-10 months to fill the spot?

[Guest]

I can't say with certainty. I know Boise State dropped a game with SC, and a few mid-major programs keep slots open for when that happens so they can slide right in and get their payout. It's the lack of travel that bothers me the most, even more than scheduling cupcakes. The guys don't even have to take a busride to go play.

[teke184 0]

If Rutgers' scheduling doesn't improve over the next 3-5 years, given their current level of success, that should be more than enough to DQ them from any discussion of the BCS Title Game and any At-Large Bid consideration. (If they win the Big East, they get the automatic bid and it isn't an issue.)

 

 

The only reason I'd give them a pass until then is that their program was considered one of the biggest jokes in a BCS conference up until last year... They were seen as on par with Baylor, Vanderbilt, Duke, Stanford, etc.

 

Now that they're seen as a big boy, they've only got so much time to start scheduling like one before they get sent to the corner wearing a dunce cap.

 

 

BTW, their bandwagon fans don't seem to realize (or care) that the team was losing to I-AA teams a few years ago if they chant shit like "F*ck you Navy!" at the visiting teams.

 

At least come up with something specific to your team, like LSU fans chanting "Tiger bait!" at the opposing team, instead of being vulgar assholes. That's close to being on par with Ohio State and West Virginia fans, who riot and/or burn couches after games.

[Angel_Grace_Blue 0]

Speaking of dumb post-game stuff, I never got the thing with Auburn toilet papering Toomer's Corner. It's our own place. That means we've gotta clean it up later. I could under stand papering somewhere on a road game, or the visiting team's bus or whatever.

 

Maybe they used to burn things in the early days but had to knock it off (During my tour of campus when I transfered from community college, it seemed like every building had burned down at some point).

 

Hey, Teke, if you go to AU/LSU, let me know how empty Auburn's section is. I imagine there will be plenty of shredded tickets.

 

That reminds me: While watching the game, I thought "Looks like Tuberville's got himself a new Blackmon" because he only decided to really use Burns after losing last week (Same with Blackmon against Florida last year). Then, later in the game, I was thinking, "Is Cox going to be Tebow'd this year?". I hope so, as it would be awesome to have a QB you bring in only for passing situations. "Look, kid, you're a great player, but you can't throw worth shit, so we've got to get the immobile, brittle guy in for this play." lolz, maybe AU can run a two QB set at all times. "Does Burns take it and run? Or give it to Cox for a pass? Borges am fuxs with heads, he am greatest coordinator of the forever!"

 

So, yeah, in conclusion, I'm awful at trying to be funny as it relates to college footsball. Or anything, for that matter.

[teke184 0]

I'll post on it if I can remember to...

 

The Auburn section is usually pretty full, partially because LSU-Auburn always gets ugly in some way or another, at least since 2001.

 

 

This year? Probably not so much.

 

They're about an Ole Miss loss away from taking up residence in the West cellar, where I don't think they've ever been before.

[Fökai 0]

Had the best seats in the house for the UH/UNLV game (three tickets, dead-center front row on the 50-yard line). I did get Colt to sign our game tickets sometime in the 3rd quarter when he was pulled, but the highlight for me was June Jones flicking off the UNLV fans who were talking about how hot his daughter was (just the intent of the taunting was hilarious). There were a few Heisman-like performances today, but even with an attempt to shed my blatant homerism, Colt should be the front runner.

 

EDIT: I almost forgot. The punter for UH, Grasso, was signing autographs all game long. I don't think he even had his pads on the entire game.

 

 

[teke184 0]

There were a few Heisman-like performances today, but even with an attempt to shed my blatant homerism, Colt should be the front runner.

 

EDIT: I almost forgot. The punter for UH, Grasso, was signing autographs all game long. I don't think he even had his pads on the entire game.

And he should be, IMHO.

 

Brohm puts up a lot of fireworks, too, but doesn't have Brennan's numbers.

 

 

 

JD Booty shouldn't even be in the same category because he's mainly a caretaker for the USC offense rather than a game-breaker.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

There were a few Heisman-like performances today, but even with an attempt to shed my blatant homerism, Colt should be the front runner.

 

EDIT: I almost forgot. The punter for UH, Grasso, was signing autographs all game long. I don't think he even had his pads on the entire game.

And he should be, IMHO.

 

Brohm puts up a lot of fireworks, too, but doesn't have Brennan's numbers.

 

 

 

JD Booty shouldn't even be in the same category because he's mainly a caretaker for the USC offense rather than a game-breaker.

 

Agreed. If I had a vote to give, and Brennan kept this up, he's my pick for Heisman. As for Booty, everyone knows how much I dislike him, but last night should have ended any talk about him being the Heisman. The team won with the running game and proved that they don't need Booty to win.

[CanadianChris 0]

We are forgetting about Illinois, they won today and are now 2-1 I got a feeling they are gonna be a sleeper team

You are forgetting that they beat Syracuse, which is nearly akin to beating Temple these days.

[snuffbox 0]

At what point did halftime scores begin to count?

[HarleyQuinn 0]

McNeese State also beat UL-Lafayette 38-17 behind RB Jamie Leonard (19 carries, 134 yards, 1 TD). I think the list is now 6 teams that the FCS has beaten... maybe 1-2 more than normal but nice to see.

 

#16 Sam Houston State gave #5 North Dakota State a fight in a 41-38 loss that may bump them up a bit in the standings. Rhett Bomar (Remember him?) went 36-61 for 358 yards with 4 TD/1 INT for SHS. Also ran for 103 yards on 17 carries.

 

#17 Illinois State beat #14 Eastern Illinois 24-21 behind QB Luke Drone's 267 yards and 2 TD.

[Slayer 0]

I don't blame K-State, because as you said, their stadium is in the middle of nowhere. They don't have much of a problem traveling recently, at Auburn and at Fresno this year. They used to schedule some awful programs, though, when they were consistently a top 25 team. Pre BCS mostly, so there wasn't any incentive to get out and do something, other than pride, anyway.

Snyder did try to schedule some tougher opponents during KSU's prime years, most notably Notre Dame, but it was very difficult for reasons already noted... it took Pete Carroll's "we'll play anyone" attitude to finally bring a good team to Manhattan.

 

On the other side, does a team really have to play a thoroughly murderous schedule to be considered for a national title? Yeah, Florida nearly ran the table last year with the toughest schedule, but usually the team with the toughest schedule winds up being a 3-4 loss team who can forget even thinking about national title contention

[Slayer 0]

Looking through KSU's schedule from their prime years (1995 to 2003), I see their years with tougher schedules were ironically their best years (the 1998 national title contender and 2003 Big 12 Champs)

[cabbageboy 0]

With all the comments about Rutgers having a crap schedule...well I'm assuming they put it together years ago when they sucked. To be honest I really don't know if Rutgers is a serious team for the long haul. They might just have a couple of flukish good years with Ray Rice and then go back to sucking once he goes pro. I'd say South Florida is easily a more serious threat long term, what with all the FL talent they can recruit and Miami and FSU both sucking now.

 

I'm still frustrated and pissed over last night. It's embarrassing to lose to UK. There's starting to be less and less of a reason to play that game on U of L's end. If we squash UK like last year, then pundits say "Oh, Louisville doesn't play anyone." If we lose to UK like last night, it leads Sportscenter and everyone laughs. Ah well at least I'll take solace in the fact that Hunter Cantwell will make the Cats his personal bitch next year.

 

It's maddening to lose to a team that can't really DO anything with the win. It's not like UK is going to do jack shit. They've got likely losses to Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU, Florida, Georgia. I got a laugh out of the newspaper this morning acting like Andre Woodson is some All American QB...hell Middle Tennessee put up more points than UK did.

[Bored 0]

This site has future schedules, although of course they are incomplete. Rutgers starts a series with Notre Dame in 2010. Kansas State has UCLA, Miami, and Virginia Tech coming to Manhattan in the next decade.

 

One thing about OOC scheduling is that these games are set so far in advance it is impossible to know what programs will be doing well and which ones will be rebuilding by the times the games are played. USC plays Ohio State the next two years but after that they have Virginia in 2010 and Syracuse in 2012. Both right now look like easy games but who knows where those programs will be then.

[Slayer 0]

Kansas State has ...Virginia Tech coming to Manhattan in the next decade.

Uh oh!