Sean Taylor Dead

[PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0]

What kind of burglar shows up and just kills the guy without stealing anything? I was always under the impression that burglars look to avoid conflict: if they hear a barking dog, they'll try another house.

 

According to the cops they thought the place was going to be empty.

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

What kind of burglar shows up and just kills the guy without stealing anything? I was always under the impression that burglars look to avoid conflict: if they hear a barking dog, they'll try another house.

 

According to the cops they thought the place was going to be empty.

 

Wouldn't you kick open the door of a bedroom with your gun drawn if you thought it was empty inside?

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

From everything I've heard about his house... it was pretty damn secure, even though he had no guards. The only way to get in, would be if you REALLY knew the layout of the place, or if someone LET you in.

 

I'm going to say it might have been his woman who set this up.

 

It's interesting you should say that. I remember when I first heard about it, the timeline that the police gave between when he had been shot and when they received a call made me think "Well, his girlfriend must have been somewhere else or was freaking out and didn't know what to do" because I do recall there being a pretty significant gap. I don't know if maybe the story changed or something as more information became available, but that was actually my first thought.

 

It didn't hurt that, at first, there were conflicting reports about whether he'd been shot in the leg, groin, or both. Neither are particularly easy places to shoot a human being on purpose.

[Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face]

What kind of burglar shows up and just kills the guy without stealing anything? I was always under the impression that burglars look to avoid conflict: if they hear a barking dog, they'll try another house.

 

According to the cops they thought the place was going to be empty.

I'd wager that most burglars do. Something still doesn't add up here.

[Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face]

double post!

[Guest]

I think it's kinda simple, actually.

 

Dumb kids thought nobody would be home, since it was a Sunday night, and Taylor would typically be playing for the Redskins. However, Taylor was hurt, and didn't play. These kids, being as dumb as they are, could not possibly have even begun to think about something like that in the first place. They go to Taylor's house, break in, get scared when they find out someone's there, and shoot him. I bet they weren't even thinking when they did it, just got scared, broke down the door, and BAM.

 

I saw earlier that at least one has confessed, already. As for how they knew the layout...

 

Family friend Richard Sharpstein said at least one of the suspects was at Taylor's house when his sister recently had a party, but that Taylor did not know the men.

 

Mitchell and Wardlow had connections to Taylor. Mitchell cut Taylor's lawn and did other chores at the house, Mitchell's twin brother, Scottie, told the newspaper. Taylor's sister, Sasha Johnson, dates Wardlow's older cousin Christopher, and Scottie Mitchell told the paper the couple invited Jason Mitchell to Johnson's birthday party within the past two months.

 

 

Wouldn't you kick open the door of a bedroom with your gun drawn if you thought it was empty inside?

Well, wouldn't you be wondering why the door's shut if nobody's home in the first place? Personally, I don't have shut doors when I leave, and nobody else is around. Not only that, but you have to make sure nobody's in there waiting for you with a gun of their own. These guys are too stupid to know that Taylor's not allowed to have a gun. Taylor was waiting, but didn't have a gun. This is probably a dumb thing to say, but if I robbed a house, I'd be extra careful to make sure nobody's behind any shut doors. If I'm a robber, I want the loot. I don't wanna die.

[NoCalMike 0]

So I guess all the media claiming this was "Taylor's past coming back to haunt him" can really go fuck themselves.

[Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face]

Why? Does this make him less dead?

[Ripper 0]

That response really doesn't even make any sense. i don't know what you were going for there. He didn't say they should apologize, he said they could go fuck themselves.

 

Writers kept saying "Its obvious that this has to do with his past and its a shame that he put himself in that position."

 

Well, now it is obvious that it was a bunch of dumb assholes trying to rob him and killed a innocent guy in his home with his baby and girlfriend in the room.

 

They can indeed go fuck themselves.

[JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0]

That Sean Taylor sure is a "thug" now huh? Some of the people here are rediculous.

[Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face]

That response really doesn't even make any sense.

Why does it matter whether his killers were linked to his past? It doesn't change anything. All people did was surmise that another thug once again couldn't outrun his past, as is often the case. It's like people are happy that it was just some guy that killed him, as if this vindicates anybody, as if you can go "well, that makes it better" or "yay, I was right, whee, haha, fuck y'all!" It was no indictment on his character to make conjectures based on his past, because everyone has acknowledged that he was changing his life. Nobody ever said that he was guilty of anything.

[Ripper 0]

That response really doesn't even make any sense.

Why does it matter whether his killers were linked to his past? It doesn't change anything. All people did was surmise that another thug once again couldn't outrun his past, as is often the case. It's like people are happy that it was just some guy that killed him, as if this vindicates anybody, as if you can go "well, that makes it better" or "yay, I was right, whee, haha, fuck y'all!" It was no indictment on his character to make conjectures based on his past, because everyone has acknowledged that he was changing his life. Nobody ever said that he was guilty of anything.

Yeah...thats "all" people did.

 

You had Wilbon that said he grew up surrounded by violence(which he didn't), embraced it(which he didn't) and suggested that he was a thug(which he wasn't). So did alot of the other press. They took a story about a guy that got murdered and attacked him with assumed things that weren't even slightly true. The story had a negative slant on it , which once again wasn't true. i don't see how you can see no problem with this.

 

That is fucking bullshit to say that it was no indictment on his character to make conjectures based on his past. It was brought up so it could be put in a neat little story about how a street thug got gunned down in his home. there is article after article that clearly illustrate what was happening here.

 

The story presented simply wasn't true, so yes, the writers can go and fuck themselves.

 

Once again, not one writer has been able to show how he was a thug or had a troubled past. They are just saying it and rolling with it and that is supposed to be okay. Its not. Its irresponsible journalism, and for all the editorials, where they can say whatever the fuck it is they want, then yeah, they can make all the assumptions they want, but they can also go fuck themselves because all their assumptions were wrong and they were a bunch of classless uninformed cunts about the whole thing.

[Mike wanna be 0]

Four charged with unpremeditated murder? Guy gets a knife left on his bedroom pillow a week earlier, and then someone cuts his phone line, breaks into his home, breaks into his bedroom, fires a gun at him twice and leaves without taking a single thing and that's not premeditated murder....but attempted robbery. Right. Like Taylor keeps all his valuables in the bedroom with him, and doesn't have a single thing worth taking anywhere else in the house.

 

He was murdered and they planned it, but they sure as fuck aren't going to confess to that now that the PD is moronically going for attempted robbery and unpremeditated murder instead of Murder 1/conspiracy to commit murder.

[Ripper 0]

The knife was used to pry shit open on the first robbery including doors and lock drawers. I don't think it was so much a threat as they were just done with it.

 

Plus, it was said his safe was in the bedroom, so that would be a reason to get in there.

 

And honestly, who murders people by shooting at their groin? Once he went down they would have shot him a few more times to make sure.

[Mike wanna be 0]

The knife was used to pry shit open on the first robbery including doors and lock drawers. I don't think it was so much a threat as they were just done with it.

 

Plus, it was said his safe was in the bedroom, so that would be a reason to get in there.

 

And honestly, who murders people by shooting at their groin? Once he went down they would have shot him a few more times to make sure.

On the pillow, though? I mean, I can see someone in an act of panic/stupidity just tossing the knife aside to make a fast getaway, but to have it end up on the pillow...coincidentally?

 

And the safe...well, I can understand them wanting in the safe, but I'm guessing that wasn't the only thing he had there. TV? Car keys? He must have had a ton of valuable stuff that was either in use or too big for the safe and they didn't touch any of it. It doesn't make any sense to me why robbers would go straight to the bedroom without disturbing anything else in the house. It doesn't make any sense to me why they would have cut the phone line both times if they thought the house was empty and only wanted to take things.

[snuffbox 0]

Father of the year.

[The Niggardly King 0]

I still think it was a set-up by his woman.

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

The knife was used to pry shit open on the first robbery including doors and lock drawers. I don't think it was so much a threat as they were just done with it.

 

Plus, it was said his safe was in the bedroom, so that would be a reason to get in there.

 

And honestly, who murders people by shooting at their groin? Once he went down they would have shot him a few more times to make sure.

 

Who says they were trying to kill him? Maybe they thought by shooting him in the leg they would send him a message.

 

It would probably have ended his career if it didn't kill him, and he would have been punished for having broken off his relationship with his old friends.

 

It still could fit the narrative of retribution for Taylor breaking off his relationship with unsavory characters in his life, though the police certainly seem to think that this is not what happened.

[Mike wanna be 0]

I get the feeling that Taylor was sitting on the end of the bed and stood up when the door was kicked in; it was dark so the assailant didn't see him and just fired two shots in the dark at the spot on the bed where he assumed Taylor would be lying down/sitting up startled. Since Taylor was standing up his femoral was in the line of fire the guy was aiming at; when he heard Taylor's reaction to absorbing a bullet he assumed he'd delivered and took off.

 

That's the only explanation I can come up with for the location of the bullet.

[Guest Pizza Hut's Game Face]

That is fucking bullshit to say that it was no indictment on his character to make conjectures based on his past. It was brought up so it could be put in a neat little story about how a street thug got gunned down in his home. there is article after article that clearly illustrate what was happening here.

SHOT THROUGH THE LEG!

AND THEY'RE TO BLAME!

THEY GAVE SEAN A BAD NAME!

[Guest RyechnaiaSobaka]

From the AP:

 

MIAMI — Four young men charged with unpremeditated murder in the shooting death of Washington Redskins star Sean Taylor have not been strangers to police. Still, nothing came close to what they faced Saturday.

 

Eric Rivera, 17; Charles Wardlow, 18; Jason Mitchell, 19; and Venjah Hunte, 20, were charged with Taylor's slaying, home invasion with a firearm or another deadly weapon and armed burglary. Police said the suspects were looking for a simple burglary, but it turned bloody when they were startled to find Taylor home.

 

"They're terrified," said Sawyer Smith, who along with his father, Wilbur, represent Rivera and Mitchell. "These are young boys who are absolutely terrified about the position in which they find themselves."

 

Poor kids! Don't you feel bad for them? They're known to the police and are terrified now that they've killed a man. How did they come to be in "the position in which they find themselves"?

 

What a tragedy! Right? Right??

[CanadianChris 0]

From the AP:

 

MIAMI — Four young men charged with unpremeditated murder in the shooting death of Washington Redskins star Sean Taylor have not been strangers to police. Still, nothing came close to what they faced Saturday.

 

Eric Rivera, 17; Charles Wardlow, 18; Jason Mitchell, 19; and Venjah Hunte, 20, were charged with Taylor's slaying, home invasion with a firearm or another deadly weapon and armed burglary. Police said the suspects were looking for a simple burglary, but it turned bloody when they were startled to find Taylor home.

 

"They're terrified," said Sawyer Smith, who along with his father, Wilbur, represent Rivera and Mitchell. "These are young boys who are absolutely terrified about the position in which they find themselves."

 

Poor kids! Don't you feel bad for them? They're known to the police and are terrified now that they've killed a man. How did they come to be in "the position in which they find themselves"?

What a tragedy! Right? Right??

They forgot to read the injury report.

[Ripper 0]

The knife was used to pry shit open on the first robbery including doors and lock drawers. I don't think it was so much a threat as they were just done with it.

 

Plus, it was said his safe was in the bedroom, so that would be a reason to get in there.

 

And honestly, who murders people by shooting at their groin? Once he went down they would have shot him a few more times to make sure.

On the pillow, though? I mean, I can see someone in an act of panic/stupidity just tossing the knife aside to make a fast getaway, but to have it end up on the pillow...coincidentally?

 

And the safe...well, I can understand them wanting in the safe, but I'm guessing that wasn't the only thing he had there. TV? Car keys? He must have had a ton of valuable stuff that was either in use or too big for the safe and they didn't touch any of it. It doesn't make any sense to me why robbers would go straight to the bedroom without disturbing anything else in the house. It doesn't make any sense to me why they would have cut the phone line both times if they thought the house was empty and only wanted to take things.

 

 

The phone lines weren't cut. That was a false report.

 

You guys still clinging to this being a hit, huh?

[Brett Favre 0]

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