Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted June 8, 2008 Excellent pick. It's really hard to tell for sure HOW fast Gale Sayers was, though, or if he was just comparatively fast for his era, and since that was practically all his appeal- consider that he was considered to be the best open field runner in NFL history, which I have severe doubts about (Erm, Barry Sanders?). There are still a few good RB's out there. I wonder why the receivers have died off so quickly though- I'm guessing most people imagine anyone could catch a ball? Hmm. There are still a couple really good ones out there.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 Normally, I would try to suscribe to the "RB's are a dime a dozen" way of thinking and wait on one. But I feel like this guy is way too good to pass up. I'm gonna go with the man dubbed "The Kansas Comet". Gale Sayers 4x Pro Bowl selection (1965, 1966, 1967, 1969) 5x All-Pro selection (1965-1969) NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team NFL 1960s All-Decade Team 1965 UPI NFL-NFC Rookie of the Year 3x Pro Bowl MVP (1969, 1967, 1966) Chicago Bears #40 retired The total yards gained by Sayers don't do him any justice, but his per-game averages were outstanding. The man could do it all, from rushing (5.0 YPA), receiving (11.7 YPC), kick returns (30.6 YPR), and punt returns (14.5 YPR). Hell, he even threw a TD pass once. It wasn't the easiest pick, since his career was very brief, but the fact that he was the youngest player ever elected to the Hall of Fame (age 34) and was ranked #21 on The Sporting News' top 100 list of great NFL players (as well as #5 in a recent ESPN.com article on the best RB's) speaks volumes of how highly regarded he was. To get him as the 12th RB off the board is a steal IMO. Outstanding pick, the was my other choice if I didn't take OJ. Gale Sayers was simply awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tzar Lysergic Report post Posted June 8, 2008 I have an offensive player on my "next five radar"! Sayers is amazing value at this point. Not on my must-have list, but likely the BPA, all things considered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 Offense is the name of the game for the 3rd Pick here... WR Paul Warfield (Cleveland Browns/Miami Dolphins) - The Glory 8 Pro Bowls 4 All Pro 2 SB 1 NFL Championship - The Stats 427 catches 8,565 receiving yards 20.1 YPC 85 TD Led the 1972 Miami Dolphins in catches, receiving yards, and TD Led the NFL in TD in 1968 and 1971 7 straight seasons of 20+ YPC From 1968-1971 he averaged 68.9 receiving yards per game One of the best wide receivers I've ever seen through NFL Films. The guy, for his career, averaged over 20 yards per catch despite having seasons where his long was around 50. A perfect run & shoot receiver (6'0", 188) who is mainly a possession guy but can make the big play on any catch. Reminds me of a more explosive Isaac Bruce in his prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 To continue building that defense.. Randy White. 9x Pro Bowl selection (1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985) 9x All-Pro selection (1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985 [7 1st Team]) 1x Super Bowl champion (XII) 1978 Co-Super Bowl MVP 1974 Outland Trophy 1974 Lombardi Award NFL 1980s All-Decade Team Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor Over 1,100 Tackles About 111 Sacks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 Warfield is a guy I thought would have been wrongfully overlooked so good eyes on that one. He doesn't get talked about nearly as much as he probably should. I wonder why the receivers have died off so quickly though- I'm guessing most people imagine anyone could catch a ball? It is because aside from the truly great ones, they are a dime a dozen and not nearly as integral to a team as some other positions like quarterbacks or defensive linemen. Basically there are a ton of good WRs out there and not that many legendary ones and they don't play one of the more important positions, so people are holding back drafting them. There are two or three on my radar left and after that I'll probably be waiting awhile for a WR myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 Terrell Davis - RB 3-Time Pro-Bowler 3-Time All-Pro NFL 1990 All Decade Team 1998 MVP 2 Time OPY 2 Time Super Bowl Champ Super Bowl MVP 4.6 Yards Per Attempt His prime was as good as anyone, he could catch, run, and did it at high altitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 He'd be in Canton if not for his injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2008 I wonder why the receivers have died off so quickly though- I'm guessing most people imagine anyone could catch a ball? It is because aside from the truly great ones, they are a dime a dozen and not nearly as integral to a team as some other positions like quarterbacks or defensive linemen. Basically there are a ton of good WRs out there and not that many legendary ones and they don't play one of the more important positions, so people are holding back drafting them. There are two or three on my radar left and after that I'll probably be waiting awhile for a WR myself. I agree with this. When pretty much everyone here should have an all-time great QB, you don't need exceptional receivers, so more people are looking to fill other positions that aren't as deep in the draft. When my QB won super bowls with Deion Branch, David Patten, and David Givens as his top targets, I feel like I can wait a while to pick up WR's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 FUCK!! TD was my next pick. Jack Ham, LB - 7x All-Pro - 8x Pro bowler - 75th Anniversary team - Al 70's team - 20/20 club A leader who had some of the NFL's all-time great instincts. He led the best defense of all-time and now reunites with Green to anchor my defense. Mike Haynes, CB - 5x All-pro - 8x All-AFC - 9x Pro bowler - 75th Anniversary team - All-80's team With Greene and Ham anchoring one half of my defense, Haynes will anchor my secondary. It'd be hard to find 3 better guys to lead a defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 OG - Larry Allen 1990s All Decade Team Super Bowl Champion 11 Time Pro Bowler 7 Time All Pro The Strongest Man To Ever Play Pro Football Am I crazy for taking a guard this early in the draft? Maybe. Maybe I am. Larry Allen is the greatest guard, and one of the greatest offensive linemen, to ever suit up for the NFL. He's also the strongest man to ever play in the NFL. He personafies "Road Grader" and with this guy lining up next to Tony Munoz, I've got the best O-Line in the draft. TD will have a field day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Mission beast defensive line continues with: Howie Long. 8x Pro Bowl selection (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1992, 1993) 6x All-Pro selection (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1989, 1990) NFL 1980s All-Decade Team 1985 co-George S. Halas Trophy Winner 1984 NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year 1985 NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year 1984 NFLPA AFC Defensive Lineman of the Year 91.5 Career Sacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Eh...I always considered "best guard" like "best defensive second baseman". If he was that good he should be playing shortstop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 FUCK!! TD was my next pick. Jack Ham, LB - 7x All-Pro - 8x Pro bowler - 75th Anniversary team - Al 70's team - 20/20 club A leader who had some of the NFL's all-time great instincts. He led the best defense of all-time and now reunites with Green to anchor my defense. Mike Haynes, CB - 5x All-pro - 8x All-AFC - 9x Pro bowler - 75th Anniversary team - All-80's team With Greene and Ham anchoring one half of my defense, Haynes will anchor my secondary. It'd be hard to find 3 better guys to lead a defense. Can we please kick this guy back out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 How many rounds is this going to be again? 22 starting positions, kicker, punter and 1 return specialist? 25 picks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Eh...I always considered "best guard" like "best defensive second baseman". If he was that good he should be playing shortstop. ... Seriously? Because if that's true, you don't understand football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tzar Lysergic Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Coaches, too, right? That's 26. I thought Davis was going to be one of those guys who would slip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Alright, it's past time so... I need a tackle to protect John Elway. Why not go with a guy who helped protect his blind side for 5 seasons and helped him win a Super Bowl? Gary Zimmerman 7x Pro Bowl selection (1987, 1988, 1989, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996) 9x All-Pro selection (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996) NFL 1980s All-Decade Team NFL 1990s All-Decade Team There's a number of linemen I could've picked here, but I like Zimmerman's ability to run block and pass block effectively. He was also a very tough competitor, starting 169 straight games at one point and playing through numerous injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 You actually could have made that pick a couple of hours ago since we are down to 8 hours now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Crap... forgot the hour change! Sorry guys... RT Forrest Gregg The Glory 9x Pro Bowl 9x All Pro 75th Anniversary Team 1960's All Decade Team He'll protect Young's blindside and you can't ask for much more from one of the best offensive linemen ever in the game, a guy who protected Starr and was coached by Lombardi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Now I'm pissed. Not only do you miss the time limit, but then you go and draft the guy that Lombardi said was the greatest player he ever coached. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 Now I'm pissed. Not only do you miss the time limit, but then you go and draft the guy that Lombardi said was the greatest player he ever coached. I was surprised he wasn't drafted higher and was worried that he would get taken a few spots before me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2008 I was starting to wonder when he'd get picked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Michael Strahan # 7x Pro Bowl selection (1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005) # 6x All-Pro selection (1997, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005) # Super Bowl champion (XLII) # 2001 NFL Defensive Player of the Year # 2x NFC Defensive Player of the Year (2001, 2003) # NFL Record 22. 5 sacks in single season # 5th All-Time in sacks (141.5) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Damn! There go two of the players I was targetting.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tzar Lysergic Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Paul Krause 8x Pro Bowl selection (1964, 1965, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975) 9x All-Pro selection (1964, 1965, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975) NFL Record 81 career interceptions 70 Greatest Redskins Pro Football Hall of Fame Well, this is kind of a statistical choice. I have the all time sack leader in NFL history and the all time interception leader in NFL history. Along with Green, my secondary is going to be a really dangerous proposition for teams wanting to go long. Bruce Smith is going to have some pals, too. Trust me. Tipped balls from QBs under attack going into some of the best hands in NFL history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Great pick, bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Important achievement you missed, from wikipedia: Currently, Paul Krause owns the Dairy Delite in Lakeville, Minnesota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tzar Lysergic Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Ice cream for everyone after the game! It's pop warner for extremely competitive vicious adults of gigantic stature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Nice pick. I was looking at Krause (who grew up in my city BTW) as a sleeper pick down the line. Very underrated player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites