The College Football Thread 11/19 - 11/23

[Urban Warfare 0]

One game away from a epic rematch between Oregon State and Penn State!

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Rushing the field at the end of the game has pretty much reached its nadir with the finish of the UW/WSU game today. The writing was on the wall given the fact that it was happening in practically every home win his season by a team over a higher ranked team, but storming out there after your team beats a winless opponent is the ultimate jump-the-shark moment.

[Psycho Penguin 0]

At least BSU has a chance. Where's the fighting twerps... i mean terps?

 

Not in the fucking MAC, although we are undefeated against MAC teams this year also.

 

This night could NOT have gone any worse for me. Maryland and Tech are completely shitting the bed. What a nightmare. Fuck.

[Guest Smues]

The BCS is a joke anyway, but if USC weasels their way into the title game without winning the Pac-10 it'll stop being at least a funny joke. I just have this sinking feeling it's going to happen.

[jimmy no nose 0]

Almost a great moment in Cincinnati on the last play. The fans had already come out and pulled down the goal post with time left on the clock, then they started storming the filed during the last play while Pitt were still lateraling the ball around. Unfortunately no one broke away and the game ended. At one point the announcers thought a flag was thrown but it turns out it was just an orange from one of the fans. How do they allow that to happen during a play?

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

I don't think it can happen with Florida, Alamaba, and the mess that is the Big XII out there.

[Psycho Penguin 0]

Almost a great moment in Cincinnati on the last play. The fans had already come out and pulled down the goal post with time left on the clock, then they started storming the filed during the last play while Pitt were still lateraling the ball around. Unfortunately no one broke away and the game ended. At one point the announcers thought a flag was thrown but it turns out it was just an orange from one of the fans. How do they allow that to happen during a play?

 

That was the funniest fucking thing I have ever seen. I wanted to see a Pitt player knock a fan on his ass.

 

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Now there's a play for the highlight reels, 65-14 Oklahoma.

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

WOW. What a bullshit call.

[Paul Stanley 0]

Harris had it coming, he's been playing like he wants to injure someone out there.

[Psycho Penguin 0]

No mercy rule yet? Who would have thunk Tech/OU might end up a bigger blowout than UF/Citadel?

[Jaxxson Mayhem 0]

JR SIGHTING!

 

 

And a nice little convo about him.

[Paul Stanley 0]

I know a place where JR can shove that BBQ

[naiwf 0]

So does Florida or Oklahoma end up at # 2 in the BCS standings tomorrow? I have the distinct feeling Texas is going to get dropped to # 4 behind both of them despite beating Oklahoma H2H. Just another reason to hate the BCS.

[Broward83 0]

Sadly, I can see the same happening.

 

 

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Once again, "Texas beat Oklahoma so they should be ranked higher" simply does not work now that we have 3 one-loss teams from the same conference who are all 1-1 against each other. The season now has to be evaluated in its totality, and I think Oklahoma, with its demolition of Texas Tech, close loss against Texas, and its two high quality OOC wins (probable Big East champion Cincinnati and Mountain West #2 TCU), has the best resume of any 1-loss team in the country.

[cabbageboy 0]

Man, that went really bad for TX Tech tonight...as in 100x worse than anyone could have predicted. I figured OU would win the game but in a wild shootout something like 55-49. The Sooners absolutely should not pass Texas in the rankings but given the score tonight they probably will. If that's the case let's take bets on when and where OU pulls their annual chokejob: at OK State in the reg. season finale, vs. Mizzou in the Big 12 title game, or vs. ________ in the national title game.

 

If Boise wins next week I would very much like to see Utah vs. Boise St. in the Fiesta. But will the BCS let two small conf. teams in?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

The BCS is a joke anyway, but if USC weasels their way into the title game without winning the Pac-10 it'll stop being at least a funny joke. I just have this sinking feeling it's going to happen.

 

Actually, they'd win a share of the title. Oregon State just gets the Rose Bowl invite. Which is fine with me if USC made the title game (though I recognize that as a virtual impossibility).

[Psycho Penguin 0]

Missouri beats Oklahoma, USC wins out.. USC is in the title game. It's not that challenging*

 

 

 

 

 

 

* Besides the Missouri beating Oklahoma part.

[naiwf 0]

Once again, "Texas beat Oklahoma so they should be ranked higher" simply does not work now that we have 3 one-loss teams from the same conference who are all 1-1 against each other. The season now has to be evaluated in its totality, and I think Oklahoma, with its demolition of Texas Tech, close loss against Texas, and its two high quality OOC wins (probable Big East champion Cincinnati and Mountain West #2 TCU), has the best resume of any 1-loss team in the country.

 

TT beat Texas on a last second play and got violated on national TV by OU.

Texas beat OU by 10 and lost on a last second play to TT or they'd still be undefeated.

OU destroyed TT at home, but lost by 10 against Texas.

 

The way I see it, if you eliminate TT from the discussion at this point (which you should since they lost by 44), then I look at the head to head as being more significant than a team getting beat on a last second play. OU has the better schedule minus the Texas game, but they lost to Texas and shouldn't leapfrog them and Florida in the BCS because they beat the shit out of a team that probably falls all the way out of the top 10 tomorrow. I just don't like the idea that Alabama/Florida will all but lock up a slot in the title game and assuming they both win out Oklahoma will end up ahead of Texas despite losing to them.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Missouri beats Oklahoma, USC wins out.. USC is in the title game. It's not that challenging*

 

 

 

 

 

 

* Besides the Missouri beating Oklahoma part.

 

Then what about Texas? They're higher ranked than USC. If Oklahoma loses in the Big XII title game, wouldn't Texas simply get plugged in their spot against Alabama/Florida?

[Broward83 0]

Its OU, ask Dama...they'd choke it up worse than some barely legal girl trying to deep-throat Mandingo...

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Missouri beats Oklahoma, USC wins out.. USC is in the title game. It's not that challenging*

 

 

 

 

 

 

* Besides the Missouri beating Oklahoma part.

 

I honestly think in that scenario (ignoring a ton of other potential wackiness in the SEC and so on) you might see the voters trying to shift things around to get Utah or Penn State in the title game. The "co-champions" stuff is nonsense even if that's how the Pac-10 officially does it, no reasonable voter is going to legitimately view USC as Pac-10 champ after losing to the other "co-champion", and might choose to punish them in the voting, if recent history is any indication.

 

Now, there is obviously no guarantee this would happen, or even if it did that the computer rankings would agree with the whim of the voters, but it's possible.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Question, are the Rose Bowl committee absolutely required to take Oregon State? Suppose they want to avoid a rematch, and want to have the "bigger matchup" of USC/Penn State? I mean, I'm sure if they could, that'd be the direction they take, but I am not sure if it'd be against the rules.

[Damaramu 0]

Once again, "Texas beat Oklahoma so they should be ranked higher" simply does not work now that we have 3 one-loss teams from the same conference who are all 1-1 against each other. The season now has to be evaluated in its totality, and I think Oklahoma, with its demolition of Texas Tech, close loss against Texas, and its two high quality OOC wins (probable Big East champion Cincinnati and Mountain West #2 TCU), has the best resume of any 1-loss team in the country.

 

Exactly. They all beat each other. Herbstreit was pissing me off with all his "Well Texas beat OU so OU should be ahead" completely discounting Tech beating Texas and then losing to OU. Like you said, they're all 1-1 against each other. I don't care how it happened, H2H between the teams doesn't really work. Maybe Bradford was right, you have to look at who is hotter right now and who looks better. Right now Florida and OU look like the best teams in the country.

I still think OU beating #2 and then #12 next week would give them enough of a boost in the computers, and maybe in voters eyes. Hopefully the voters aren't as dumb as Herbstreit, and don't get blinders on in relation to OU and Texas.

 

But, man what a game for an OU fan. That was a big league spanking. I expected OU to win, but I didn't expect them to tan Tech's hide like that. Bradford is out of this world, and OU's defense actually stepped up for once.

 

And Nic Harris really did play like he was looking to kill someone tonight. Whoever said that was right.

[Damaramu 0]

Also, I don't know if they're going to choke this year. In the past they've played really really shitty on the road. That's part of the reason they've choked. They lose focus and play like shit at various times.

 

That has not really happened this season. If you want to think of a choke they've had this season, it was probably against Texas. But otherwise they've been dominant in every game.

[Bored 0]

Question, are the Rose Bowl committee absolutely required to take Oregon State? Suppose they want to avoid a rematch, and want to have the "bigger matchup" of USC/Penn State? I mean, I'm sure if they could, that'd be the direction they take, but I am not sure if it'd be against the rules.

Yes they would be required to take Oregon State. Given USC's slim chance of getting into the MNC I wouldn't be surprised if players would rather go the at large route and get into the Fiesta or Sugar Bowl. I'm sure the seniors are getting tired of the Rose Bowl.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Remember when OU was rolling over everybody in 2003, then they met Kansas State...

 

(edit: Thanks for the answer, Bored)

[Damaramu 0]

Remember when OU was rolling over everybody in 2003, then they met Kansas State...

 

That's true, and that was the beginning of their big game slide. And Mizzou is way better than that KSU team was. So I'm not going to count my chickens before they hatch. I'm not saying I expect them to roll everyone they play, but I'm not exactly expecting any big time chokejobs this year.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Remember when OU was rolling over everybody in 2003, then they met Kansas State...

 

That's true, and that was the beginning of their big game slide. And Mizzou is way better than that KSU team was. So I'm not going to count my chickens before they hatch. I'm not saying I expect them to roll everyone they play, but I'm not exactly expecting any big time chokejobs this year.

 

Didn't you think the Bedlam game could give them trouble? I mean, they put a lot of themselves into tonight's game. I could see a situation where they arrive in Stillwater burnt out. Though I do fully expect Oklahoma to win out and give us a decently exciting title game against the SEC champion.