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  1. Papacita

    What are you listening to right now?

    In Da Club- 50 Cent
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    WrestleMania XX Could Be 5 Hours

    WM 20 should be a celebration of the past 20 years, I'd be so down to see Hogan/Savage or Trips/Cactus or Taker/Kane....its the culmination of years prior. I don't care about ***** match, I want to markout like ma'fucker. Fuck nostalgia. The WWE should make NO mention to the history of WM at WM 20 and use it to spotlight/pass the torch to the midcard guys who should be main eventing but not do to bullshit politics ala WM 10............ I dunno if I'd make NO mention to history, considering it's the 20th anniversary and all, but really, the PPV should to more to establish the new generation than it should to glorify the old one. And damn it, Austin/McMahon was played out in 99. I really don't feel like sitting through another feud between those two, especially now that they're both non-wrestlers. If Austin wants to wrestle, fine, but they can come up with a better opponent than Vince.
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    Ultimate Match of Survival, Arsenio, Hogan/Perfect

    If I remember right, the Arsenio match was titled "Mo' Better Bruise", which was a take off of a recent movie. I don't remember much other than Jake whipping out the king cobra at the end to hype up the Survivor Series tag match.
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    quick question

    Um...I'm sure this has been asked before, but didn't Ultimo just beat Mysterio in a #1 contendership match a few weeks ago??? What the hell happened to that?
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    Goldust Not Getting Renewed Contract

    Unfortunately, I'm not surprised. They really didn't know what to do with Dustin.
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    Feedback And Ratings, 11-20

    Thank you all for making me blush... Seriously, I really appreciate the compliments on the tag match. Your responses really caught me off guard, and I'm glad you guys liked it so much. As for the show overall...I'll give the show an 8. Rushed or not, I really liked the tag match with Calvin/Ragdoll vs Superstar/Mister Warrior (I find myself seriously marking for Warrior for some reason, lol), Dama's stuff was solid, and I like the build between he and Crystal. The promos were all good, and again, everything built well to the PPV. Pretty good overall.
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    11/20/03 HeldDOWN~! booking

    Ah...I'm just about finish the Brock/Heyross vs Panther/Tina match right now, but I've gotta run to class in a little bit. I'm done at 5, so I should have it in before the deadline.
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    Checkers

    Most of them do have drive-thru and indoor ordering from what I've seen. Yeah, Checkers has the best fries out of all of the fast food chains, IMO. I've been a fan of them for the longest. I really don't know the specifics of their location, as they've been here in Philly since at least 91 or 92, but I've got some friends from Baltimore who had never heard of them before coming up here.
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    The person above you thread!

    ^ should realize that dead horses are the easiest to beat.
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    The person above you thread!

    Unlike <, ^ is a SHAMELESS plugger. ^^ Also a shameless plugger...but in a different sort of way...
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    If you're into e-wrestling...

    Oops. Yeah, while I'm sitting here not plugging my dead e-fed, I'd also like to not plug the great OAOAST, which, as of...*checks watch* RIGHT NOW, can be conveniently found in my sig. Oh, and HeldDOWN~! too, which I would also not like to plug. Good enough?
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    Why is it that everytime I type up a long reply, the board decides to have some kind of error? RACISM I TELL YA!!!!!!! RACISM!!!! Anyway... I see your point, and today, the light-skin/dark-skin differences really aren't that much of a problem nowadays (among most people). But again, when these things are so engrained in a culture, it will take a long while for them to completely go away. That's been addressed. Most blacks really don't pay all that much attention to black leaders. Whether or not it's due to racism is debatable, but a lot of that has to due to the concentration of drugs into the black community, which really started to kick in around the 70's or so. People have been preaching it for years. I'd say that it was the main cause for the whole "black is beautiful" movement, the "what is good hair" debate, and stuff like that. Still, the tensions are engrained in the culture, and will probably always exist in some form. Believe me, I understand completely. White males especially tend to catch the brunt of a lot of undeserved frustration. Well, as I stated earlier, part of it is the cultural foundation. Again, Asian-Americans have a more solid foundation than blacks, as they have a place to look back to, more unity, as MX pointed out, and as a whole, a stronger cultural ideology. Also, there's the fact that regardless of their ability to speak English, Asian immigrants were educated before coming to America (at least the most successful ones were), so right there, you've got a stronger educational foundation, since there were a relatively small amount of blacks that were educated, either through force because of slavery, or the poor quality of schools. And also, while I'm sure a lot of you may take offense to this, but part of the reason that they were able to progress more easily in American society was the fact that...well...THEY'RE NOT BLACK. Sounds, like a cop out, I know, but fact is that a good deal of that "ideal minority" stereotype that's imposed onto them stemed from a resentment of the black power movements of the 60's and 70's. While they were still discriminated against, any resentment they had towards whites wasn't as pronounced, so it'd be easier for whites to accept Asians than it'd be to accept blacks. Yes, and a lot of that does coincide with the arrival of colonialism. Yup. We seem to be seeing eye-to-eye here. And vice-versa, speaking specifically of the Nile Valley region. Eh...definitely more ordered than Post-colonial Africa, simply because the imperialists already had solid government systems to work from than the post-colonial African leaders, who upon independence, had to more or less come up with an efficient way to govern a large body of people on the spot with little time for preperation. But the main problem with colonialists was the fact that they were acting in their own interests as opposed to African people's interests and never really tried to make a connection between the colonial powers and the African masses, so any kind of hold they had over the colonies wasn't really stable, evidenced by the fact that most colonies achieved independence through revolution. But again, they weren't helping the people all that much. All the order in the world doesn't mean a damn when you're being oppressed. Really, technological advances aside, Africa would've been better off if they weren't colonized. That was one of the things with Europe's practice of divided rule...in many places, they *didn't* provide things like sewage and electricity to native Africans, and if they did, it was to a select few. Whatever technology was brought to Africa was mostly for the benefit of those in power. That's why even today, you can go to some of the most beautifully-developed business districts in Africa, and right down the street you'll find a run down neighborhood with no electricity, no plumbing, basically getting their water from contaminated wells. I know this is a broad statement, but I'll go as far as to say that the majority of Africans didn't benefit from European technology.
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    If you're into e-wrestling...

    If I were a shameless man, I'd use this as an opportunity to plug my dead e-fed...which, despite being closed of...*counts on fingers* ...15 months, has archived card results that, conveniently, can be found by clicking the link in my sig. Fortunately though, I do have some shame, so I won't do that.
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    Video games that made you cry?

    Turtles II: The Arcade Game. Gamepro had printed a false stage select code in one of their magazine, and me and a friend of mine spent tried SO HARD to get that code to work...hell, I'm getting teary-eyed now just thinking about it. Also, Battletoads back when I was like 7 or 8. My brother and I were playing 2-player mode, and we had gotten pretty far in the game...and for whatever reason, I got mad at him and started attacking his guy, but when I tried, he ended up beating me to the punch and beating my guy up. I got seriously pissed and kept coming at him, but he kept beating me up and eventually killed me! I threw a tantrum and ran away crying.
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    I'm late for some of this stuff, but just wanted to address some things...first, from one of Mike's posts: Whatever issues that between light-skinned and dark-skinned blacks stems directly from social conditioning of blacks in slavery, which is why I say that slavery is largely to blame. However, you seem to get the idea that I feel whites should step in and try to resolve this and just about any other problem I brought up, and that's just not true for a couple of reasons. Well, for this point and other race-specific problems, no one would expect anyone whites or anyone else to care about them, simply because the issues don't affect them. And even if they did care, I doubt that a white person could rectify the issues if they couldn't if they tried. Any social issues affecting a particular group could only be solved by the people within said group, and NO ONE, not even the most racist blacks out there would suggest otherwise. Also, when you say whites, I get the sense that you're saying whites in general (as in every white man and woman in America), and I could be misinterpreting you here, but really, I just want to reassert that I'm not blaming the white population for ANY problems that problems that affect blacks, because even the most whites don't even have the power to cause any real problems. Oh fuck you. FUCK YOU. I just lost a ton of respect for you there. You are just as bad as fucking Jesse Jackson to devalue their struggles with identity in America by just saying "They could get over it because they were white". As if having White Skin is just the saving grace of any persecuted European minority. Not a lot of Irish people changed their names, oddly enough. I still see a lot of Thulls, O'Malleys, O'Hares, McCulloughs, and others. A lot of jews didn't hide either. They certainly didn't abandon their culture because we see so many of them proudly displaying it today. They were still used, abused, and persecuted. Thing is, they didn't constantly complain of being a victim like you are right now. They worked past it, and I believe the black race can do the same if they stopped trying to blame everything bad that happens on them on someone else and focused on making themselves better. No one's denying that these people suffered despite their skin color, but I can see where Ripper's coming from here. As far as socialization goes, actually being white would make it a lot easier to assimilate into American society, not because of a white pride or anything like that, but fact is that as you start moving into second or third generations, whatever stark differences that separated Irish or Jewish immigrants from typical American whites simply become less pronounced, to the point where it becomes a hard to tell the difference between the immigrant group and the established group. And while they didn't disregard their roots, most immigrants did adapt to American culture, and when you've got someone who looks like you, talks like you, and is of the same socio-economic status, it's a lot harder to single them out than it would to single out blacks, Asians or latinos, who's physical appearance does a lot more to accentuate any perceived difference between the groups. Now...onto my little rant on Africa... Ahem... First off, you're tossing all Africans into the same boat,and that's not good, because it's a HUGE continent, and it is and always has been very heterogeneous. That being said, Economically, what was backwards about it? Rich lands like the Nile Valley (Egypt and the like) flourished before European influence. Same with places like Ghana, Songhay and Mali. While they didn't interact often with European powers, there's evidence of sophisticated commercial trade systems throughout Pre-Colonial Africa. Culturally...while there were no rigid land boundaries, there's not much to indicate that societies were backwards. Again, you had kingdoms in West Africa, sophisticated social practices among other things. And then you had places like the area known today as Rwanda, that, while a pastoral society, had a social structure before colonial arrival that was actually admired by European powers upon their arrival. Civilization...heh. Anyway, while European influence did benefit Africa technologically, socially, it destroyed them. One, as stated earlier, imperialists imposed arbitrary boundaries onto Africa, and strategically divided the continent in a manner that benefitted their own interests and had little regard for ethnic conflicts that existed within those boundaries, which caused a lot of the conflict with Ethiopia and Somalia in the mid-20th century. Also, you've got to consider the impact that divided rule was the basis for many conflicts in post-colonial Africa, such as in Nigeria between the colonially *INVENTED* groups of the Ibo, the Yoruba and the Hausi-Fulani. Same with the Sudan, as North and South were administered separately throughout colonial rule, then thrown back together upon independence, despite differing ideologies that the two sections began to develop. Arguably, Belgian rule caused the genocide in Rwanda in 94, as during colonial rule, they blatantly favored the Tutsi minority and brutally oppressed and marginalized the Hutu majority, creating dissention between the groups that remained and slowly built for the majority of the century. Even the technological and economic benefits are debatable, as most new technology brought into the countries existed to benefit only European powers, and were largely kept away from native Africans. And don't even get me started on AIDS. We've gone far enough off topic as it is. That's an exaggeration. Pre-colonial Africa was no more war-torn than Europe was.
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    I agree for the most part, and on average, I'd say that most black movements I've seen (not including people like Jesse and the NAACP, I believe are more of a detriment to the community than anything) do share this mindset, doing more to preach upliftment to the people than they would to denigrate whites. It's all a matter of people listening. Well you can't expect people to feel economically empowered when you've only got a small percentage of the population becoming successful, and quite frankly, most blacks simply haven't have the same opportunities that Oprah had. This whole debate originated over why it's worse to insult someone on the basis of race as opposed to being tall, and my answer was that on average, tall people don't have a common cultural ideology, while in America, the social, economic and cultural divide is a racial one. Nowhere did I say that every black man across the world has the same cultural identity. Not even every black man in the United States has the same cultural identity. Show me how it affected them culturally to the same degree as blacks, and I'll accept your point. When the actual problem is a DIRECT result of slavery...an intentional result at that...how can you argue that slavery isn't largely to blame? Because it is a problem of small and feeble-minded blacks. The slavery connection is a really weak explanation for it. Eh...your opinion. I'll just agree to disagree rather than keep arguing the point. Now I'm not sure whether you're referring specifically to more affluent schools or inner city public schools. I really don't have an answer for more wealthy schools, because outside of extreme circumstances, I'd imagine it's not all that difficult to take off from work (maybe more blacks are cheap, I dunno, lol), but I do know that it's a lot harder in lower income communities, where you've got parents having to work 2 and 3 jobs just to break even. Also, there's the fact that some people that do care are simply turned off by the attitudes of the instructors. I remember recently, there was a radio show where a lot of black parents called in to talk about interactions between families and schools, and generally, the teachers stereotyped them as bad parents, one instructor going as far to say "You people have got to learn to put down the crack pipe and motivate your children". Now personally, I blame the parents here for allowing people to come into their communities and disrespect them in such a manner, but in cases like these, it's somewhat understandable why these people would be more reluctant to interact with schools after such treatment. I think that SAT scores are more reflective of the quality of education received and the availibility of test preparation resources than any kind of cultural bias. No it wasn't. Fact is that many of the feuding "ethnicities" didn't exist before colonialism, and came into existance as a result of social grouping by imperialists. Furthermore, prior to colonialism, there were no land boundaries to confine said "ethnicities" to, meaning that there were less land conflicts and disputes over cultural domination. Pre-colonial Africa was in no way, shape or form like present day Africa.
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    I've maintained from the beginning that there are many causes for deprivation in African American communities. I never identified racism as a sole cause, nor did I suggest that blacks aren't responsible for their own situation (I'll be the first to admit that if more blacks took responsibility for their situation, then racism wouldn't be as big an issue). My point overall was that you can't adequately assess the true cause of a problem without looking at the history of events that shape them. The point was irrelevant, because African Americans are opperating within the US economy, not on a world economy. Any perceived deprivation would be relative to economic standing of other groups operating within the society as opposed to some country half way across the world. Which was my point from the beginning. Racial and ethnic divides are based more on common culture and ideology than physical appearance. Did you even read my post before you went on your little tirade? As far as your comparing blacks to other American immigrants, again, the situations aren't really relative to one another because, again, no other immigrant group has had to endure oppression as severe as African Americans' oppression for as long a period of time. Most oppression immigrants faced in America, regardless of severity, is largely limited to the first or second generations, thus having little to no consequence on the cultural value systems. Africans were enslaved in the United States for well over 200 years, over numerous generations, meaning that for more than two centuries, their collective mindset was shaped in a manner that was detrimental to themselves and beneficial to slaveholders. Contrary to what you may believe, that mindset isn't just gonna vanish with the signing of some document. Add to the fact that you had Jim Crow laws amongst other things to reinforce this slave mindset, and that blacks and whites were at odds with one another for the majority of the 20th century, to the point where, to play off of the point Spicy McHaggis made earlier, for the most part, this current generation of African Americans (born in the 80's and 90's) is really the first generation that hasn't hard to incur any kind of overt, large scale racist resistance. You really can't say the same about the other groups you compared them to. When the actual problem is a DIRECT result of slavery...an intentional result at that...how can you argue that slavery isn't largely to blame? Yet the average sentences for crack violations tends to be longer than those for armed robbery, arson and manslaughter. It should also be noted that the majority of crack addicts are white, yet minorities make up the largest percentage of those imprisoned for crack violations. I wouldn't say that teenage pregnancy isn't a problem, but I would hardly refer to it as epedemic. Just because blacks don't interact as often with teachers doesn't mean that they don't care about their children's educations. Parents are oftentimes unable to make parent-teacher conferences due to conflicts in their working schedules. This could also account for at least some of the statistics regarding black children and the amount of TV they watch on school nights, especially with lower income families, as parents have to work later, and thus have less time to spend watching their children. And just to give a specific example of how lack of association with teachers doesn't necessarily mean apathy, I'll reference my own father, who for the most part, never interacted with my teachers when I was in school (that was largely left to my mother), yet he was MUCH more strict than she was in making sure that I got my work done and kept good grades. But that's not the case. Blacks have contributed a great deal to American society, most of which are largely overlooked, even predominantly African American schools. Throwing up a couple of commercials once a year about how a black man invented the light bulb is hardly sufficient justification for this. Then what about EVERY OTHER GROUP? Why focus on blacks? Do OTHER groups have no need to have their collective egos stroked? If it's relevant, their histories should be focused on, especially in their own schools. There's no reason that any group should be short-changed on its history. No one would argue contrary. Your comment was that colonialism had no bearing on the present day condition of Africa.
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    WWE News From The Torch

    I dunno about his attitude backstage and everything, but Zach as a heel would be pretty interesting.
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    Ratings Feed 11/13/03

    I'll go with 8 on this one. I really liked the main event...especially the ending. That came off really well. I also liked the stuff with Sly, Matt and the evil ref, and I really like Northstar in his GM role. And I agree that all the show's storylines were developed pretty well.
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    The person above you thread!

    ^ MISTER Nice guy ...possibly needs his sig updated as well.
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    Well, we're not operating on a world economy, so how is that comment even relevant? I'm sure you have a point here, but I'm missing it. No one mentioned a thing about SATs, no one mentioned a thing about Africans, Haitians or what have you. My point was that racial and ethnic divides are based more on common culture and ideology than physical appearance. The fact that you actually chose to group Africans, Jamaicans and Haitians along those lines actually supports my point. Now I said that I'm now out to place blame, because as I said before, there's no single, definite reason for black America's problems today. But since you seem to adament that I identify a cause, you can't deny that slavery is indeed a major cause from African American's disproportionate development in U.S. society. You pointed out that we as African Americans really have nothing in common with native Africans, and, all generalizations aside, this is true. See, unlike Japanese Americans, who were victims of persecution, African Americans are actually a PRODUCT of persecution. Whereas the Japanese American ideology has its foundation in Japanese tradition, the African American ideology more or less stems from the American slave mentality (that blacks are subhuman, inferior to whites, the "Willie Lynch syndrome", which, without getting into the whole story, basically describes the practice by white slave owners of dividing and conquering on the basis of skin pigmentation; lighter-skinned blacks were given preferential treatment in relation to darker-skinned blacks, causing tensions between the two groups that, believe it or not, still do exist today). And it's not like the Japanese, who were persecuted for maybe 4 or 5 years and then released. With African Americans, the slave mentality was actually passed on from generation to generation, and when you consider that most people inherit their parents' value system, it's a lot harder for blacks to bounce back from their hardship than it is for Asian American immigrants. And all of this is without taking into consideration the racial oppression blacks had to endure after emancipation. Illegitimacy is at near-epidemic levels??? Black parents don't force their children do homework?? What are you basing this bullshit on??? Well, there's the disproportionate allocation of resources for services crucial to to inner city residents, there's also the lack of funding provided to inner city public schools, to a lesser extent, practices of institutional racism in society (for example, why are there stricter penalties for crack-cocaine, primarily found in poor inner city communities, and powered cocaine, more widely used by whites), just to name a few. As for stereotypes that stem from slavery, the general assumption that blacks are unintelligent, that they're criminal, to a lesser extent, that they're sex-crazed, promicuous, lazy, etc. But that's not the case. Blacks have contributed a great deal to American society, most of which are largely overlooked, even predominantly African American schools. Throwing up a couple of commercials once a year about how a black man invented the light bulb is hardly sufficient justification for this. We're veering off topic here, but you've gotta be crazy to say that Colonialism didn't cause and/or aggravate the majority social conflict in Africa. Where in my post did I say that blacks should receive handouts from whites?
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    The person above you thread!

    ^ thinks he's seen the worst designed website in the world. < has designed worse.
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    It'd be hard to justify making him step down over one incident (though his weird sentencing would be sufficient enough reason if you ask me), but there's no way he should just be made to say sorry and move on, because if he truly is racist, then you've got a real problem on your hands. He should be placed under investigation, however, because whether he meant to offend or not, he's presenting a bias as to what type of person he believes is criminal.
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    White Judge Draws Fire for Costume

    I can honestly say I've never heard that expression. And there are several differences between insulting someone on the basis of race that to insult someone because of an abnormal physical feature or whatever, one of them being that America is socially, economically and culturally divided primarily along racial and ethnic lines. Other than being tall, there's no common thread that ties tall people together. There's no common culture, there's no common ideology, so any insult directed against tall people wouldn't have the same impact as one directed at blacks, latinos or even whites. And part of the reason that blacks take racially based insults so personally is because one, unlike with Christians and Irish-Americans, our persecution still negatively affects our society today. Whereas Christians have gone from persecution to being one of the world's dominant religions (arguably the dominant religion in the US), despite our improvements, African Americans' place in the social hierarchy really hasn't challenged all that much since slavery. Collectively, we have no real economic or political power in the country, and as a result, numerous issues affecting African American communities fail to be addressed, stereotypes that stem from slavery still exist, and other than Black History Month, our history and contributions to society (other than music maybe) are largely ignored to the point where most black children really don't know a thing about their own culture. And I'm not mentioning these things to try and place blame or anything, because there's not one cause for anything, but all of these things coupled with the history of persecution do weigh heavily on people's minds, which is why people who make the attempt to better themselves and their standing in society tend to take racism or the suggestion of black inferiority so personally.
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