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I gotta laugh about the high praise for the HBK angle. I was on the old Prodigy board at the time and I remember the Smarks at the time were PISSED about something, ANYTHING getting by them. The WWF pulled a fast one on them and they didn't like feeling like marks I suppose.

Ok, for all you Moore bashers out there. Enjoy THIS little piece of internet bliss. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/michaelmoore.html

The conventions are really just a big pep rally now. The networks are really only interested in ratings and advert money. So they give a shit about as much as I do. Which is very little. Maybe if they hired the Nitro Girls between speeches and had a monster truck run over the opposing parties symbols. Like say, the republicans could hire Grave Digger to crush a paper mache donkey or something. Cut to commercial: "Brought to you by CASTROL GTX!!" "I got lots of great ideas. Problem is most of them suck" George Carlin

Makes me wonder a bit tho... If they DID (in theory) bring back the draft, what my chances would be since the Army already turned me down back in 94. I had asthma as a kid and they told me no. Go figure.

Very true. Which is why I think people suck. Its a nice idea, but those who try it usually end up being shitheads.

Yes, but this was all presented to us as "He HAS WMD and we KNOW where they are!" As in at the moment. I would accept that if it was a freudian slip on Bush and Blairs part, but COME ON!

Yeah, but you said NOBODY was seriously considering a draft.

He thinks its all bullshit and you are an asshole and a fucking jerk for bringing it up. Make sure you understand that it is HE who is making the most informed statements around here in SPITE of the liberal slant "around here". stupid spelling errors! when I'm bashing of all times!

Well no, I don't REALLY know for sure. But can you think of a safer bet? Hehe.

I saw Bad Religion in Boston in 96. The show was tight! Great live act. Warped is coming round here for awhile if I remember correctly.

He thinks it sucks.

I don't see why conservatives get all tied in a knot over this movie. It is simply a counter-point to the Rush, Hannity, Fox News type material. So some liberals had their say and others are happy to have heard it. So what. Calm the fuck down. The movie IS quite the ride as it covers much of the last 4 years. Moore does a good job of making his point using whatever details he has available. The most damnig IMO was the double-cross he made with Bush releasing his medical records. Since he already HAD a copy, the reason for wanting BUSH to release it becomes more clear: What would Bush black out of the records. That being that Bath guys name. Make no mistake about it. Moore played them for suckers on this one. They bit on it, as in Moores mind James Bath is the glue that holds together his claim about the Bush/Bin Ladens connection. I so did feel terribly for that woman who had lost her son last march. It was the hardest part of the film to watch... for me at least. Which is weird since I had just seen fucked up gross little kids with chuncks missing out of their arm, as well as more footage of those people that were burned and hung from that bridge. I am reminded (by this film) of the old news footage that used to come back during Vietnam which so many have blamed for turning so many peoples minds 30 years ago. We don't see very much of this type of thing on the news very often anymore, as it is right away labelled as hurting the war effort. It pisses me off that things are so sanitised. It makes me grateful that this movie is out so I can make an even better and more informed opinion now that I know what the left thinks (cuz I'm sure as hell not gonna get it from Tom Dachle sp?). I do agree that there should also be a balance of news stories showing the successes of the war if any. Of our troops doing great and benevolant things but we cannot ignore the toll that is paid. It must be seen and not showing the results good or bad misrepresents the war to those it matters to the most. In fact by the end of the film I had more of a feeling of partriotism than I had felt in years. Which is unusual considering the feeling of dread I have as it concerns Americas future.

Just saw F-911. What a kick in the balls. Not for me, but for GW. Maybe he can apply for unemployment next year in Flint. Moore totally made Bush Senior and Junior his personal bitch. The standing ovation at the end of the film nearly brought me to tears. Its not even like Moore really even had to do anything. GW and all of "those people" did it themselves right out in the open. .

Hmmm, I remember reading on his site that Moore had every intention of using this film as his way of "Regime Removal" in reference to Bush. Whatever. I'm still going to see it and make up my own mind.

Not being a Bush supporter myself, nor of King George the First. I did support Bush Sr. in pulling out when he did back in the 90s. In those days, the idea was "If we didn't go home we'd still there 20 years later". This is a sinking ship. Never ever should this war have started because their IS no plan that will work to acheive the goals set forth by the American Govt. You can kill them over and over and they will still keep coming back. I can't look past the ages of some young palistinian boys I saw throwing rocks at soldiers in Isreal. Generation after generation they will grow up be killed and do a shitload of damage before they are. I find almost nothing to admire or envy about the people who live in the Middle East. I do know however, that the fanatics over there have an iron will that just will not be broken no matter how much money we spend on high tech toys. They have "GOD" on their side you see. Sigh. I saw the video on-line of the Korean guy begging for his life and then being killed. This IS going to keep happening. I also see that there are no answers that are acceptable to me. I always used to think we could buy them off if we fed them, but I doubt it now. So for myself I'll keep on doing as I have always done. Stay atheist. Stay out of the Middle East. Try and be ready should I encounter any of the maniacs on either side of the fight.

A shot to the head as a defensive move. Understandable IF the officers life were in danger i.e. the guy had a fucking gun. Hell, shoot him in the face. But it sounds like the guy was pretty much TAKEN at that point so hitting him in the head with a baton is just plain bullshit. Not that anything will happen for it. So score another one for the conservative brigade.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Epitaph. 94 was their year and they brought in shitloads of money with The Offspring, Bad Religion, and Pennywise among others.

Oh sure the movie is going to make ALOT of money. It remains to be seen how much sway it will have over the public. As forceful and heavy handed as Moore happens to be often times, even when slapped in the face, the masses tend to not react at all. Sort of an apathy induced by shock, if you follow my meaning. All the same, I'm still not sure what significance the listing of all the famous folks means. The right wing seems to have a real distain for politically motivated celebs. When really, all they have is one vote to cast by themselves. Good review, which makes me want to see the movie even more now.

I too thought the fuel/drug example was a good one. I don't understand the schizo comments in regards to this column. *I* didn't have any trouble following what he said. Is it a real downer? Perhaps. I have always found that recognising a problem is the first step towards finding a solution. There willl always be people who don't wanna hear it and label those folks as simply being negative. Sad.

I read this and was really quite moved. Let the bashing begin. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/cold_turkey/

Since when has there been talk of recruiting kids that young to serve in the military? It's the first that I've heard of it. And maybe WHEN that happens people would be willing to let them see his unbiased documentary. But to say that they should be able to see it NOW just because something MIGHT happen in a couple of years is a joke. And, Jimmy Saint, a lot of us are making fat jokes about Moore because he's fat, not to 'defend America' per-se. And I'm actually in reasonably good shape, certainly better than average, am I allowed to make fat jokes, or am I too fat of a bastard to do so? I have heard several discussions limited to a few talk radio shows that have thrown the idea around of how people might react to a draft being implemented should the soldiers have to stay for a long period of time overseas. I guess the lure of the GI Bill doesn't pack em in like it used to. The discussions weren't any big deal as in "BUsh and co. were thinking about starting a new draft". Just theory.

You have my envy sir for that kiss on the cheek. I too have had a crush on Kim Deal forfuckingever! Well done.

Lets also not forget to have a much larger space for CAWs. 32 with 2 memory cards isn't enough since I usually make a shitload of them.

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Maybe he IS a Rasslin' fan. It doesn't stop him from putting his points in here and there so he can backtrack on wrestling as soon as somebody accuses it of being fake and scripted. Ya just KNOW he has the whole "I was doing it for an article" bullshit excuse to any of his friends who hate wrestling, or can't get past the words scripted and fake. whatever.