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This is a war era... I personally want some experience in that field from my Commander-In-Chief... Bill Clinton never dressed up like GI JOE and taunted 'bring em on!'

Ok Captain Ashcroft. That Neil Young...what an asspuppet...

No technology.

Serving in a war... Possibly ditching the National Guards... Sorry, this is the position of Commander-In-Chief, such differences bear discussion.

'You worship Satan' -Johnboy Ashcroft

Hate to say it John, but it worked against you. Well, if he wouldnt have had that damned black baby...

Awww, guess Edwin ain't my friend either cause he basically just called me an ignorant 12-year old. I am older than 14 though so get your Kleenex handy. BTW GreatOne-haters, I'm still not caring..............but I guess by bringing that up I really DO care right? OK..................... Its gettin pretty sad young'n.

You're right, how dare I say that some people who throw out OMGBUSH=HITLER2004!!!!!! at will and call Bush 'the real terrorist' might be inclined to vote for 'that nice old man that takes care of his people' over him. Yep, how dare I??????? I'm a moron? This coming from a guy that supported the Democrats' answer to the Ultimate Warrior, YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Dean got McGoverned...he made that shout in a roomfull of college kids...its common sense to see how that was a fairly normal thing to do in those circumstances. Sometimes, greatone, it helps to know about the situation. Also, cnn later apologized for showing the clip....they cited its irrelevance. And, I think the only kids who do the OMGLOL thing here are the republicans...

I have 'This Is It', FNM's greatest hits collection... Agreed on the 'dont post entire collections' idea... I know mine is far too large... Perhaps beyond requests we should post certain recommendations or rare cds we own?

Would that include Osama Bin Laden? I hope thats a joke What'd he say? He said 'Anybody but Bush', and given there's a groundswell among the 'Anybody But Bush' crowd that would probably vote for him if he had the chance (Patty Murray's rather fond of him), it's not a joke. Well it is, but more in the 'sad' way. the fuck?

Its a good idea... Ill post what I have sometime(or at least a portion). I wont be able to trade until the end of August/Early Sept though as I will be travelling the next few weeks. Most people involved will probably be established posters so the trading idea could be pulled off. We kinda sorta know each other here so its not like we'd just be sending away cds...and they would only be copies anyway so its not a big loss.

But its ok that Cheney only passed two bills?

Uh, technically no, considering Bush has spent 4 years in the office already, experience is pretty much on his side more than anything. At any rate, being Governor of a state is much better experience for a President to have than Kerry's Senate career. And on Kerry having more military qualifications: The only person in the elections, including the primaries, who could possibly have any USEFUL or MEANINGFUL military experience is Wesley Clark. I don't care if you were a lieutenant in a war, that's not high up enough to be considered anything that could be useful in being commander-in-chief because at that level it's only tactical decisions, not strategic. And as Welsey Clark (And, looking to the past, Grant) show us, military generals aren't necessarily great candidates for higher office (Did Clark even know what half the issues were?). Bush's experience has been pretty terrible as president...so thats moot. And he was certainly not considered a great governor. Or a great businessman. And going into 2000 he had far less qualifications than Kerry does now....why wasnt it a problem then? And saying military leaders dont make good presidents is retarded. Are you unfamiliar with nearly every president of the first half of our nations existence? Ike Eiesenhower? Seriously...

You know I would have more.......no I take that back I actually would HAVE respect for Michael Moore if this was the current stance he took. I don't agree with it but it's eons better than his current leeching. How did this inlove Michael Moore? Did Bill Clinton mention him?

One of his favorites... Truly an all-time wrestling legend and the leader of the Monkees.

Its too bad that Howard Dean got McGoverned out of the race.

A foreign policy based on 'not caring' about men who kill 3,000 Americans and dubiously attacking other countries is incredibly and tragically wrong. I feel that Bush is a good man at heart and means well for this country...unfortunately he is more wrong than any military leader since Hitler(that is a military prowess comparison, nothing else). You dont allow 3000+ Americans to die under your watch as president and then not care about finding the perpetrator. You dont send another 1000 brave souls to parish in Iraq and igntite further terrorist attacks on a daily basis. None but the saddest lemming can support such dangerous and reckless foreign policy. Terrorism does not eradicate terrorism...its not a ridiculous concept. We cant attack for no reason and expect to not be attacked in retaliation at some point. Diplomacy trumps our current elementary school bully philosophy. We simply must not look at ourselves as a perfect nation, we must correct our ills and our mistakes. We must use our minds a little in this war on terror....We cannot ignore mass murderers like Bin Laden to focus on random regimes. This is important and needs to be discussed with more intelligence than 'kill em all'! nuke the bastards!' rhetoric. Bush is a good man at heart...but never has a presidents utter lack of foreign diplomacy and military experience ever shown through darker than it does today.

What about Elway's helicoter spin in XXXII?

heres the tour lineup: Pearl Jam/ Death Cab for Cutie: Oct. 1 Reading, PA - Sovereign Center Oct. 2 Toledo, OH - Sports Arena Oct. 3 Grand Rapids, MI - Delta Plex Oct. 5 St. Louis, MO - Fox Theater Oct. 6 Asheville, NC - Civic Center Oct. 8 Kissimmee, FL - Silver Spur Arena Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band/ R.E.M./ John Fogerty/ Bright Eyes: 10/1 - Philadelphia, PA 10/2 - Cleveland, OH 10/3 - Ann Arbor, MI 10/5 - St. Paul, MN 10/8 - Orlando, FL Dave Matthews Band/ Jurassic 5/ My Morning Jacket: 10/1 - State College, PA 10/2 - Dayton, OH 10/3 - Detroit, MI 10/5 - Madison, WI 10/6 - Ames, IA 10/8 - Gainesville, FL Jackson Browne/ Bonnie Raitt/ Keb' Mo': 10/1 - Williamsport, PA 10/2 - TBA 10/3 - Grand Rapids, MI 10/5 - Kansas City, MO 10/6 - Des Moines, IA 10/8 - Jacksonville, FL Dixie Chicks/ James Taylor: 10/1 - Pittsburgh, PA 10/2 - Cleveland, OH 10/3 - Detroit, MI 10/5 - Iowa City, IA 10/6 - St. Louis, MO 10/8 - Tampa Bay, FL John Mellencamp/ Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds: 10/1 - Wilkes-Barre, PA 10/2 - Cincinnati, OH 10/3 - Kalamazoo, MI 10/5 - Milwaukee, WI 10/8 - Miami, FL

New York (AP) - In an unprecedented series of concerts in nine swing states, more than 20 musical acts - including Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam and the Dixie Chicks, will perform fund-raising concerts one month before the November 2 election in an effort to unseat President Bush. The concert series is being titled "Vote For Change"<./a> The shows, which will begin October 1 in Pennsylvania, will take an unusual approach: as many as six concerts on a single day in cities across the states expected to decide the November presidential race. Other stops on the tour are North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Wisconsin and the key state in 2000, Florida. "We're trying to put forward a group of progressive ideals and change the administration in the White House," Springsteen told The Associated Press in the most overtly political statements of his 30-year career. "That's the success or failure, very clear cut and very simple." The artists of different generations and genres will tour under the name "Vote For Change," with shows Oct. 1-8. But the money generated will go to America Coming Together, which promises on its Web site to "derail the right-wing Republican agenda by defeating George W. Bush." The anticipated millions of dollars will be spent in the swing states before the presidential election, said ACT president Ellen Malcolm. The shows will be presented by MoveOn Pac, the electoral arm of the liberal interest group MoveOn.org, Tickets go on sale for all shows Aug. 21. The shows will pair artists, such as Springsteen and or the Dixie Chicks and James Taylor. There will be 34 shows in 28 cities. Natalie Maines, of the Dixie Chicks, who memorably told a London audience last year that she was ashamed to share her home state of Texas with Bush, echoed a Springsteen comment that this was the most important election of their lives. "A change is in order," Maines said. "There's never been a political climate like this, which is so the polar opposite of me as a person and what I believe in." The idea was hatched by several of the acts' managers, and quickly expanded. "Once we started talking to each other, ideas started percolating and other artists started reaching out to us," said Jon Landau, Springsteen's manager. Other artists participating in the shows include hip-hoppers Jurassic 5, John Mellencamp, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, Babyface, Bright Eyes and the Dave Matthews Band. Most have a history of social activism, from Browne's anti-nuclear concerts to Mellencamp's Farm Aid shows. Pearl Jam front man Vedder backed Ralph Nader in 2000. At some point, you can't sit still," said Vedder, a harsh critic of the Iraq war. "You can't spend your life, when people are getting killed, without asking serious questions about why." Springsteen said he didn't fear any backlash over going public with his personal politics. "It's a pretty clear-cut decision in November," said Springsteen, whose songs have provided a backdrop for some Kerry events. "We're chipping in our two cents. That's all we're trying to do." credit - pollstar.com

We've actually found a lot of them already. Do we need to each and every one of them before we can actually concentrate on anything else? Out of all the stupidity I've EVER seen in CE, that has to take the cake. That's just... utter ignorance. Sorry duder, Attacking unrelated countries and thus increasing terrorism is not the right way to fight this war. Before we invaded Iraq there wasnt a terrorist attack nearly everyday...now there is.

We need to find the attackers before we invade the uninvolved. Terrorism does not eradicate terrorism.

But Kerry is at least a more qualified Commander-In-Chief... Moreso than the 'anybody but Bush', the gulf between the military experience of the two is vast and inarguable. In a time of war I dont like the idea of a president whos only military background is a rather sketchy, mysterious stint in the National Guard(sorry republikids, I have nothing against against the Guard, just leaders with an odd past therein) and dressing like GI Joe and saying 'bring em on' from a aircraft carrier.