Nighthawk

Speaking of killers who look like someone else... "Glamour Girl Slayer" Harvey Glatman and Rick Moranis

No doubt there. Sass, the guy you're talking about is Christopher Wilder. Here he is: Yeah, I'd say Ole Anderson is a fair comparison.

Whitechapel is Jack the Ripper. edit: I mean, he's not called that, that's where it was, but that's what it's refering to.

This is not where I originally saw it, but the best I could find on the net at the moment. I'll quote the relevent parts. Fish 1 Fish 2 Funny thing about that second quote is, I don't believe that part about him happily helping his executioners with the electrodes is true either. By all accounts he didn't seem particularly excited, afraid or anything, just matter of fact (though he did say it would be the supreme thrill). That goes to show what kind of speculation and rumor you're up against in this field. I originally heard about it from books, but you know, they're books so I can't show them to you. I guess we can't say for sure, but I believe the chair didn't short circuit for three reasons. Nobody who was there said it did. The mechanics of the chair make it seem kind of unlikely. With so many wild stories passed around about killers, and about the chair itself, the rule tends to be that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I judge this as one of those times. Good way to introduce the point that there is tons of hearsay and speculation when dealing with this sort of thing, cause yeah, the short circuit story is more widely accepted by far. You'll probably hear a lot that Ed Gein had a heart in a pan on the stove, which is verifiably untrue. Even Jeff Dahmer's cannibalism is exaggerated. Hell, almost everything about the Whitechapel murders is a lie.

Fuck? Man, you haterizers just don't get it. Say that when you know shit about the genre, which is not an insult, because most people consider themselves dignified when they don't know shit about the genre.

I still play this every day, I play a Smackdown game to fucking death. I was still playing Smackdown 2 up until 5 came out, I wasn't done with it enough to start a new game so I skipped 3 and 4. Hack it all up with a gameshark, it lasts and lasts. Anyway, I don't play on Smackdown difficulty, because I don't find it to be any harder than Hard. It just takes longer cause of the reversal mania, you still end up with the same amount of offense.

Paranoid motherfucker, ain't ya?

What about a suplex onto a barbed wire bat?

That's such a great reason to get off his case.

I throw my hat into the "didn't suck" ring. When that dude got hit by the truck, one of the best car deaths I can remember.

OMG WTF?!? Why is this Pokemon conversation taking place? This is Onyx:

Ah, retracted then. I'm familiar with the story, but I thought I had heard it wasn't actually called Code Adam.

That's a myth. I believe, though I'm not 100%, that Code Adam is also an urban legend. Scorpio from Dirty Harry was based on the Zodiac. I haven't heard of Hannibal Lechter being based on anyone specifically, he doesn't seem close enough to Fish. He seems more based on a a type of character than a real person, the master criminal, like they took the best elements from a lot of people. While I'm talking about it, I'll point out that Buffalo Bill was based on three killers, Ed Gein's skin suit, Heidnik's pit, and the scene where he puts his arm in a cast and abducts someone by asking for help is based on Ted Bundy. Since we seem to just be talking about whatever, here's a couple interesting killer tidbits: Ed Kemper; by the way, in American Psycho, Bateman quotes a killer as being asked what he thinks when he sees a pretty girl walking down the street. He responds that one side wants to talk to her, date her, the other side wonders what her head would look like on a stick. He incorrectly attributes that to Ed Gein. Ed Kemper was the one who said that. Ed Kemper lived with his grandparents, he came home and killed them both one day. They asked him why, he said "I just wondered what it would feel like to shoot Grandma." He ate his grandma too, had gramps in the deep freeze. Said he was saving him for thanksgiving. If there's any Oz fans here, the character of Donald Groves was partially based on him.

He's right, that's too good for compression. Put it in your signature or something.

Man, I remember watching some Christian anti rock video, and they showed Dio singing that on stage, but he was like, combining it with another song which I have heard but don't recognize, and then there was this part about talking to a black sheep and a white sheep that I don't think was in either song... I really liked that version, but I don't know where I could get it and I don't have that video anymore. It was good, though.

Once I found this Mr Natural picture, I was never gonna change it. But I originally had Leatherface, and that was cool too.

There was nothing wrong with him to begin with, but that's just me. He just caught flak because of his appearance. But this ain't the movie folder, what am I saying?

Whereas Freddy stomping the shit out of a black guy = rachist.

I know what he means, I got those same nightmares after watching Patch Adams.

Where'd you hear that, they really didn't have anything in common besides being clowns, and a lot of people ar clowns. He didn't kill people dressed as Pogo, that was probably one of the good aspects of his personality (and there were a few... he was named Man of the Year in Chicago, got his picture taken with the first lady and all) Here I was gonna respond with a top 10 list of my own and everybody's all, "Watch out, he's deranged." Fuck it, I'll do it anyway. 1. Ed Gein - Can't say anything else, he's just Ed Gein. 2. Richard Ramirez - The Night Stalker, yeah. Now here's a guy you gotta take notice of, because he's like a walking stereotype. Metalhead devil worshipper, breaks into suburban homes at night. Plus he's one of the relatively few non white American serial killers. I have a shirt with one of his drawing on it, limited edition of 666 pieces and individually numbered in blood... now that's some cool memoribilia. 3. Albert Fish - There's just nobody sicker. He seemed so damn casual too, I mean, how the hell you going to get strangers to trust you with their kids? Yikes. 4. Charlie Manson - Everything I said before, if he didn't exist, somebody would have had to make him up. And listen to him rant and rave... gold. 5. Ted Bundy - Like it's been said. Point out the last guy you'd expect, and that's him. I love the way he blamed it all on porn, too. 6. Andrei Chikatalo - A werewolf, man, for real. They had to keep him in a cage at his trial, fuck a hand truck. He'd tear somebody apart, straight up. 7. Ottis Toole - The hillbilly from hell. Here's a guy with no discenable MO, he'd kill anybody as he saw fit. You want to talk about deep pyschosis, this motherfucker makes Deliverance look like Ernest Goes to Camp. 8. Gary Heidnik - He's the one the pit from Silence of the Lambs was based on. He had that. Big ass beard, Hawaiian shirts, liked to date retarded girls, and death metal blared from his house day and night. Now there's a character. 9. Jeff Dahmer - Head in the refridgerator, what more can you say? And he worked in a chocolate factory. That's just too much. 10. Jack the Ripper - For old times sake. Jack was the original celebrity. Only one could give Ed Gein a run for his money in the mythos department, except Ed got better movies based on him.

Shit, I forgot about that. I hate that one too.

Now that's funny, but only if I imagine it's being said with sincerity.

Just putting up numbers isn't that great unless it's more than 100. All the best known and best "loved" killers weren't really all that prolific, it matters more how much of a character somebody is. And Ottis Toole was way more interesting than Henry Lucas.

That's right. God thinks you should burn. And he has the right to make you burn cause he's God. You think that's unfair, he'll stick an extra pitchfork in your ass. Ha ha. Sucks to be you.

Andre Chikatalo