King Kamala

I'm glad I'm the only one that doesn't hate '95. It's not one of my favorites like you I always thought it got a bad rap because of the incredibly shitty main event and the shitty direction the company was going in. Of course, you've got HBK/Razor II but you also have the underrated 123 Kid/Hakushi opener and Bret Hart carrying Issac Yankem to a *** match. Barry Horowitz-Skip was a fun undercard match and even Kama/Undertaker was watchable. Everything else (besides the main event) was really too forgettable to be considered truly awful. There's no way anybody can convince me that show is worse than '96, '99, or some of the more recent ones.

I'm not a coffee connaissseur and I think its only available on the Eastern Seaboard but the worst coffee is easily New England Coffee. It seems like the choice of brand for high school cafeterias and third rate hotels everywhere. McDonalds used to use it for their coffee for a while around here before they replaced it with Newman's Own. Terrible stuff. Just awful.

Sting wrestles a young up and comer named Bruiser Mastino. WCW Saturday Night 3-6-93. He didn't get much offense in but I'd say that Mastino kid's got a future in the biz.

I'm a big fan of SummerSlam '93 as well. I was this close to picking it as my Most Underrated as well. Awful finish to the main event aside, there really isn't much bad stuff on the show. The only truly awful match is Taker-Gonzalez and that only goes about eight minutes. Bret Hart-Doink, Heavenly Bodies-Steiners, and the six man tag are all in the ***1/2-**** range. Even though it was a letdown, Perfect-HBk was still a solid ***ish match and Razor Ramon-Ted DiBiase was decent as well. Hell, Lex Luger and Yokozuna was shockingly watchable until the aforementioned finish. And I'm going to change my Worst SummerSlam vote to '99. '96 was a forgettable, pedestrian affair but '99 didn't have anything nearly as good as HBK-Vader and '96 didn't have anything nearly as bad as the aforementioned Snow-Bossman match.

Mero got picked as Johnny B. Badd rounds ago by drury. And Killer Khan, now that is a steal. One of those guys I thought was picked 20 rounds ago. Awesome pick there, Brooklyn Zoo. He completely slipped my mind. If I had known he was still there, I would have definitely picked him over Pampero Firpo.

Since the question wasn't around when I first answered the questions 11. Most Underrated SummerSlam match? I couldn't make a decision so we'll go with a tie. Both coincidentally are six man tags. First is Tatanka and The Smokin' Gunns Vs Bam Bam Bigelow and The Headshrinkers from SummerSlam '93. On paper, this seemed like a throwaway match and it didn't help that it was given what can be a slot of death at major shows (the second to last match). Surprisingly though, this ended up being a really fun match and one of the better matches of the evening. The other match is Tito Santana and The Rockers Vs Rick Martel and The Fabulous Rougeaus from SummerSlam '89.

Who the hell is up? And with the end of the draft finally slowly creeping by, I'm really curious to see which name guys are going to go undrafted.

1. Favorite Summerslam Overall? 1992, closely followed by '98 and '00. 2. Favorite World title match? Bret Hart Vs Owen Hart steel cage match (1994) 3. Favorite Mid-Card title match? Bret Hart Vs Davey Boy Smith (1992) 4. Favorite Tag Team title match? Edge and Christian Vs The Hardy Boyz Vs The Dudley Boys TLC Match (2000) 5. Favorite Non Title match? Shawn Michaels Vs Triple H street fight (2002) 6. Favorite Segment?: I'm drawing a blank so I'll also go with "fuck it!" 7. Things You Hated Besides Goldberg screwed out of winning the Elimination Chamber? The finish to the main event of SummerSlam '93. A non-finish to the main event of the 2nd biggest show of the year is one thing but to then have an over the top celebration after the non finish- well that's just stupid. Bonus Round! 8. Least favorite SummerSlam overall? I honestly don't believe there's been a truly bad SummerSlam. I'm trying to think but one's just not coming up. Every one has had their moments but if I had to make a choice I'd say '96. 1988 had a lot of crap on it but it's the first one and it's fun in an 80s WWF way. A lot of people will go with '93 or '95 I bet but I actually like both of those cards overall (The main event in both cases drags down the shows reputation IMHO[/b]. '96 just feels flat. Nothing on the show is particularly great or bad. Just really forgettable. 9. Least favorite match?I'm going to go with The Oddities-Kaientai. There have been worse matches than this but this match just pissed me off. To see Kaientai reduced to comedy match fodder, while not surprising at this point in their WWF career, was embarrassing. 10. Most Underrated SummerSlam? I'm going to go with SummerSlam '94. Maybe it's because it was the first show I ordered on PPV but I really dig this card. There's a lot of good stuff here (the aforementioned Bret-Owen cage match, Razor-Diesel, Bull Nakano-Alundra Blayze, the tag team titles match) and the crap is kept short. Even the bad main event and the dumb buildup to it (I believe those segments with Leslie Nielsen may have been where he jumped the shark) can't really ruin this one for me.

Woah- color me surprised by the Colin Delaney and Stevie Richards releases. Especially the latter. I thought Stevie was on his way to becoming a lifer.

Yeah, WXO was around for about six episodes in early '00. They were supposed to fill the apparently lucrative family friendly wrestling niche. The one episode I saw they were crowing about how there was no swearing, no half naked women, no men drinking beer in the ring, etc. I think it just came at a point when the wrestling market was oversaturated and it just simply didn't have the star power or the talent to compete. I mean who's going to buy into a promotion that's centered around Dan Severn? And Ted DiBiase was involved in an authority figure role and IIRC he played a prominent role off screen. It always seems that these family friendly promotions fall flat on their face. WXO, XWF, that Real Pro Wrestling show on PAX (Though- that was a different beast entirely). I'm sure one could work if done right but so far it doesn't seem like people are buying. Though with WWE toning down their act, we probably won't have to worry about another family friendly promotion popping up anytime in the near future.

Well sort of...but my point was, at least with Marvin, you'll get the satisfaction of him saying something stupid in response to our snide remarks.

The worst thing about Jericholic82 is unlike Marvin or various other crappy posters, he seems blisfully ignorant of our snide remarks. He just comes on here once or twice a week and does a flurry of posts without really paying attention to what else has been said in the threads he's posting and disappears until his next appearance.

Campbell just seemed kind of grouchy and really snarky when I met him. Looking back, he was probably just having a bad day and the hundreds of nerds asking him about an Evil Dead IV for the thousandth time and trying to one up him with lame jokes. I wasn't really taken aback by it though and would see him again if he was doing a signing somewhere else. Dude tells a lot of interesting anecdotes. The only specific thing I remember though was my brother asking him something about the somewhat obscure Sam Raimi/Coen Brothers collaboartion Crimewave and Campbell favorably comparing it to Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind. It was befuddling because those two movies couldn't be any more different. The latter's an indie romantic comedy and the former's a black comedy homage to Three Stooges shorts (not to mention a really terrible movie)

2. Bravo was allegedly murdered by members of the mafia. Most believe his murder was related to his alleged role in illegal cigarette smuggling in Canada after his retirement. 3. I've always wondered about that bit. I guess I could see it pointing towards a future feud but Dusty was on his way out in November '90 and was resigned mostly to jobbing to DiBiase or Savage. I've always wondered why they just didn't have him job cleanly. 4. I could have swore that Beefcake and Valentine had a house show feud after WrestleMania III but it looks like they only fought a few times in the Summer of '87. Beefcake mostly faced Johnny V in house shows while Greg Valentine and Dino Bravo fought The Rougheaus. They did

Am I the only one who thinks Bruce Campbell would have been a bigger star if he was around in the '40s-'50s? I mean I don't think he ever would have been a huge mainstream star but he would have been a solid B movie actor instead of being reduced to mostly Z grade affairs (Alien Apocalypse, anyone?) I met him once. He's funny but he's really kind of a jerk. Like his characters I guess. Can't say I blame him for being a jerk though.

Bart totally slipped my mind I was thinking of drafting him as Mike Barton with his as yet undrafted tag team partner in AJPW about 10 rounds ago but they didn't really fit my promotion. Good pick at this stage.

Aronofsky's going to be fine. He's got The Wrestler coming out sometime later this year or early next year. Now if that's as big of a bomb as The Fountain then he has reason to worry. And has there ever been a more jarring transition for a director then going from The Fountain to The Wrestler? Maybe Sidney Lumet going from Equus to The Wiz or William Friedkin going from the Al Pacino gay serial killer movie Cruising to the Chevy Chase comedy about arms dealers Deal of The Century

I think Downey Jr is just trying to spark a friendly, competitive feud between the two franchises. I don't see anybody from The Batman cast biting though.

That's my favorite Hitman promo period. He was surprisingly good at being a hot-headed, goofy heel during that U.S. title run.

My next pick is another superstar from World Class Championship Wrestling circa the 1980s. He also managed to score some success with Pacific Northwest Wrestling, Southwest Championship Wrestling and Maple Leaf Wrestling. He was a legitimate childhood friend of The Von Erich Brothers and was trained by Fritz so naturally I'll be using him as Kerry and Kevin's trusted ally in their war against Gary Hart's ruthless stable. While he wasn't as charismatic as The Von Erichs, he was certainly a very solid wrestler. He's a four time former NWA Texas Heavyweight Champion, a former WCWA Tag Team Champion, and former WCWA Six Man Tag Team Champion (with Kerry and Kevin). With my 37th pick in The All Time Wrestling Roster Draft, I'm proud to select... ...Brian Adias

My favorite heel turn hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread. Albert turning on Scotty 2 Hotty because he made him dance.

My educated guess is it was made during lean times in the WWF and thus they didn't have the budget to create a better game. Here's more of an open ended question along the same lines; Worst Wrestling Video Game Ever? I'm inclined to go with WCW Backstage Assault. I didn't think it was possible but that game managed to be as bad if not worse than WCW's television product at the time. WWF In Your House and ECW Anarchy Rulz were also lousy.

I need to make a point to watch some of these shows. I'm always up for some good WrestleCrap.

Alright this being late in the draft, you have to look a bit deeper. This is the first choice I've actually done a bit of research. I've heard of the name of this guy before but knew little of him other than that. My next pick is an early pioneer of hardcore wrestling alongside The Sheik and Abdullah The Butcher and was one of the top stars in The Los Angeles territory in the '60s and early '70s (Important considering I'm running most of my shows in California). My promotion is sorely lacking a wild man, unpredictable heel and this man more than fits the bill. He wrestled over the course of four decades ('50s, '60s, '70s', and '80s) and gained success in almost every one of them. I plan to use him as a member of Gary Hart's stable of monster heels (and Gino Hernandez) who are hellbent on taking down Kerry and Kevin Von Erich. He's a two time former NWA Americas Heavyweight Champion, NWA Texas Heavyweight Champion, NWA Pacific Northwest Heavyweight Champion, and NWA Hawaii Heavyweight Champion. With my 36th pick in the All Time Wrestling Roster Draft, I'm proud to select... ...Pampero Firpo! Fun fact: He introduced the phrase "OHHHHH YEEAAAHHH!!!" long before Randy Savage did.

Maybe he drives one of those buses for old people. Geezers and kids are practically one and the same.