King Kamala

Elementary school janitor? Elementary school gym teacher? And very very nice steal there, Dust. He wasn't on my radar but I would have thought The Missing Link would have gotten picked 10-15 rounds ago.

Yeah this is definitely a show that's worsened over the years. '99 WWF is like that in general. A lot of it was fun to watch at the time but it doesn't really hold up at all to repeat viewings. It's weird, I can't think of any other era of wrestling like it really. Still Shane/Test and the main event are both decent matches. Sadly, this is probably the best WWF PPV of '99. A lot of people harp on how bad WCW PPVs were at the time and they most certainly were but when you stop and think about it, the WWF ones weren't all that much better. WCW's lows were certainly lower but IMHO there was one genuinely great PPV that year and it was a WCW show.

Jericholic82 is too much of a nice guy and doesn't post enough to be truly terrible but he's too dumb to be considered anything remotely passable. The posters Milky mentioned at least fail in a spectacular fashion, Jericholic82 is just a dope.

Yeah, it was a free show and John Collins, the guy who ran it did seem mighty shady...there were some interesting threads about it back in the day at Wrestling Classics. Here's one of them summing it up.

I expect this thread will get a lot less responses than the other "Let's Talk About..." threads but it's a topic that hasn't been discussed since...well since these feds went defunct around the same time five years ago. Now let me refresh your memory. After the death of ECW and WCW in early '01, a few federations quickly sprang up and tried to stake their claim as the new #2 wrestling promotion in wrestling. But as quickly they started, they fell apart. Was it too much too fast? Or was it just a byproduct of an increasing lack of interest in wrestling? Were they just not good enough? Where exactly did TNA succeed where these companies failed? Let's meet the promotions, in case you forgot (and it would be easy to) Main Event Championship Wrestling: The first of these promotions to spring up and also the first to go belly up. Not surprisingly, there's not too much information about this promotion. It ran one television taping in July of 2001 at The Venue Formerly Known as The ECW Arena. Curt Hennig defeated Chris Michaels to win the World title at the taping and IIRC, they were building a feud between Hennig and Buff Bagwell (How exciting). Being that the center of the promotion was supposed to be Philadelphia, there were a number of former ECW stars who had not been signed by WWF on the roster. The Sandman, Sabu, and Public Enemy (who won the tag team titles at the first taping) being the most notable. I've been told that footage from the TV taping is available from tape dealers but it obviously hasn't been officially released or aired on TV. X Wrestling Federation: Never clear what the X stood for. I've heard both Xciting and Xtreme. Either one is pretty dumb. Founded by informational guru Kevin Harrington in the Fall of '01, this promotion was run by none other than "The Mouth of The South" Jimmy Hart. It ran its first TV taping at Universal Studio in November '01 with Tony Schiavone and Jerry "The King" Lawler. The taping was highlighted by Hulk Hogan's return to the ring against Curt Hennig. The fed's roster was wrestling's crossroads with washed up talent of yesteryear (Hennig, Hogan, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, The Road Warriors, The Nasty Boys, Greg Valentine, Buff Bagwell, Marty Jannetty) meeting up with stars of the future (A.J. Styles, Christopher Daniels, Carlito, Low Ki) with a few guys who didn't do jackshit (Drezden, Hale, The Shane Twins) and castoffs from WCW and ECW (Juventeud Guerrera, Psicosis, Kid Kash, The KISS Demon) thrown in for kicks. They ran brief, unsuccessful house show tours of the Midwest in December '01 and West Texas in February '02. A national television deal never materialized for the group and Hulk Hogan, Curt Hennig, Jerry Lawler, and "Mean" Gene Okerlund were quickly snatched up by the WWF. After not one but two angles where they invaded other federations (One in WWC in Puerto Rico and one in Memphis), the company died. World Wrestling All-Stars: My personal favorite of the bunch (I ordered three of their PPVs) and probably the most prominent. Started by Australian concert promoter, Andrew McManus in October of '01, the promotion initially focused on areas starved for live wrestling (Australia, New Zealand, The U.K.) and was a mild success in the early days. Like XWF, it attempted to combine established names (Sting, Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell, Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner, Jerry Lynn, Eddie Guerrero,Sabu, Kronik,Juventeud Guerrera, "Road Dogg" Jesse James) with newcomers (Nathan Jones, A.J. Styles, Christopher Daniels, Shark Boy). This promotion really fell apart after their first and only attempt at an event in the U.S. and at live PPV, WWA Revolution in February '02. The show was plagued with no-shows, show killing interviews with WWA President Bret Hart and Larry Zbysko, and just plain ol' crappy matches. The company limped on for another year or two with tours of The U.K. and Australia with dwindling interest before ending in May 2003 when World Champion Sting lost to TNA World Champion Jeff Jarrett in a Unification match. The common thread in all of these- Buff Bagwell. Can we all agree that Buff is The Ted C. McGinley of professional wrestling?

Hide the squeegees! But I agree. If they could somehow put their personal differences aside (and they might have to a certain extent by then), I think a Sid Vs Pillman feud would have been gold. Pillman could be his smart aleck self antagonizing the short tempered, dim witted Sid. Would have made for interesting promos at least.

To make more money. Obviously, it won't make nearly as much as the other Star Wars movies. But seeing how it was originally supposed to be a pilot for a TV series, I'm sure it didn't cost all that much so it should make a nice profit. But other than making more money? No, there is no point.

gary, I think it's simply because casual movie fans haven't heard of any of those people you've mentioned. Uwe Boll and Ed Wood (and to a lesser extent Hal P.Warren) are the most commonly cited in articles about terrible directors.

Let's add Movies/DVDs/Television to the folders Marvin should never ever post in. Hell Ride seems to be further proof of the theory that Quentin Tarantino directed movie= Good, Quentin Tarantion Presents= Crap

Well, that was a brain fart on my end. Well they're easily my favorite fungus.

As a (perhaps the only?) fan of the short lived WWA, I was really looking forward to Nathan Jones debut. That guy looked like a star and pre-debut vignettes were gold. Unfortunately, he couldn't wrestle or cut a promo worth a lick. Also didn't help that his heart didn't really seem in it.

Mushrooms have gradually over the course of the past ten years have become my favorite vegetable. There are few better pizza toppings. And a portabella is one of the few worthy options for a meatless burger.

Hey now- he can't suck that much. Have any of you guys had Honky Tonk Man sleep on your couch?

Aren't we supposed to be talking about wrestlers who had great debuts and then quickly fell apart? The Highlanders and The Stalker never really had any potential.

I mostly liked it because of Richard Grieco playing himself and Chazz Palmentari as the wacky club owner. I have a higher tolerance for late '90s/ early '00s comedies than most.

Has Waylon Mercy been mentioned? Great character but unfortunately Dan Spivey was a bit too busted up at that time and had to retire shortly after he debuted.

Blues Brothers 2000 does indeed have some great music. Unfortunately, almost everything else about the movie is terrible. But there is a lot of music in the movie so it's not a complete loss. For the record, I find Night At The Roxbury somewhat amusing but I realize I'm probably in the minority there.

Uh...you're only forgetting Blues Brothers. The greatest of the SNL films. And Office Space could technically be considered an SNL film, correct? Milton originally appeared on shorts on SNL I think.

Fun fact: I will rarely if ever turn down a free concert. I can't think of very many bands I'd turn down for free. At the very least, concerts always make for fun people watching. Of course, this line of thinking led me to attending a Taste of Chaos tour stop two years ago. But yeah, I'd see Poison for free.

I didn't know Damien Demento was still picking up wins in April '93. I knew he got some wins upon initially entering the company but I thought he was JTTS material for most of his run.

Out of all the rosters, I'm more curious to see what Drury can put together. I mean good lord...what a...uh...interesting roster.

The guy wrote "Soul Man"!

I don't care if Issac Hayes is more famous for being Chef and The Duke of New York. He was a legendary singer, songwriter, and producer and this belongs in the Music Folder, dammit! You did the right thing, Czech.

Yeah but we're talking about forgettable runs not short ones. Though the two often coincide. Who could forget The Diamond Stud? It was on WrestleCrap!

Shawn Vs Virgil from MSG is on a Coliseum Video (Rampage '92 or something like that I think). It's an OK match but kind of blah. To be honest, I don't think Michaels really became a good singles worker until his Intercontinental title run.