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GreatOne King of the Ring Group: Members Posts: 1519 Member No.: 5633 Joined: 11-July 04 PBP, anyone? By the way, what did I miss while I was gone? God, I hope so...it would explain a lot at least... And yes this thread is terrible, please close it. ....or maybe I'll try to save it. "Wellll John, looks like you gone and killed the wrong there goose!" "My, God. They were right. I am just as bad as the terrorists! "Are you a goose, duck or bird who family member has been injured or killed as a result of negligence? You deserve just compensation...and I can help." Kerry: John, how could you turn on me like this? Edwards: Sorry, John, I can't sit back idlely and let such an injustice stand without full just compensation...now, we could cut a deal of course to make this whole thing go away..." Easy there John, you know I can't make any financial decisions without consulting the misses, she's the breadwinner of the house, you know. "OH GEE GOLLY! Really Teresa? Ya really mean it?" "Yez, John, you haz been a good boy, I vill increase your allowanze, you just bring the Presidency to me, like a good boy" "....well, here you go, John. Thanks for making this lawsuit go away. You're a real stand up guy. Not only do you truly care about the well being of that poor geese family, but you were kind enough to help cut me a deal." Edwards: "Gee thanks, I'm glad you understand my genuiness in my dealings. Now we can focus on the things that matter, like Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter." Kerry: "You can say that again! Dick Cheney does have a gay daughter, but it's nothing him to be ashamed of." Teresa: "Eets just too bad that her mother doz not love her because of her gayness." Kerry: "Oh, Teresa, I love you so much." "Ahhhh....get thee fuck off me, you limp dicked zombee" "Do my ears sense slander? Anyone up for some "pain and suffering rewards?" .....or maybe just close it afterall.

Kerry 257 Bush 254 Didn't I say that?

Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Kerry 257 Bush 254 Looks as close as its ever been....

The choice couldn't be more clearer...

Mike, I read that article in the Post too, and I think it's dead on. Kerry would sell out Israel in an instant, because it is the one legitimate bargaining chip avaliable to appease "the world community". Chalk up another reason I hope Bush is still around for another term...

Dave Meltzer is dead on here:

My live thoughts a day later: Seats weren't bad. Top messinine, but first row, so no one in front, had clear view of the octagon. There were large TV screens on either side which was helpful when they went to the ground and camera men crowded around them and you couldn't see shit! Ok, so ticket says first fight at 8, so we're there at 7 when doors open. Keep in mind I'm with my dad who's not a fan, and is basically there for me. We get to watch the countdown show preview video, and again...and again...and so on. After the 5th time, I was expecting a quiz on the thing. We also got to see Matt Hughes sparring on the ground with some people, they were putting him in all sorts of positions and he was countering. Then he leaves, and GEORGES~! comes out with his guys and waves to the crowd and gets applause from the sparce crowd there early. Also every time Georges St. Pierre was shown in the video package he was the only fighter I noticed who got applause from the crowd (including myself). I was expecting him to be a huge favorite for his fight...boy was I wrong about that. There was also someone who resembled Sylvestor Stalone in the front row that all the fighters would greet as they walked by and the camera kept showing him, but from my vantage I couldn't tell who it was. Anyone want to clue me in? About 8:30 Bruce Buffer greets us and lets us know to be in our seats in 15 minutes so we can watch the first fight! Finally, it's tough to wait around for an hour and 45 minutes watching the same video over and over, but once Lutter walked out everyone got excited (well, I think more for the first fight, not really for Lutter). Travis Lutter def. Marvin Eastman, KO (2nd): Eastman got a big pop from the crowd (still filtering in). I know they didn't show the first round, so here's what you missed: FIVE MINUTES OF STANDING IN PLACE STARING AT EACH OTHER. This was not a good start to the night. Nearly 2 hours of sitting around, and these 2 get out here and I don't think they touched each other once. My screams at Eastman to "throw a high kick" are ignored. The place erupts with boos as round one comes to a RIVETING~! close. Pretty quickly in the 2nd round they start going at it, which gets some mock (or maybe genuine) applause from the crowd, and then Lutter hits him with a shot, and Eastman falls dead. It looked like a really weak hit, like he barely grazed him, which definitely made for some suspicion amongst the crowd. My dad even asks me if I'm sure this is really for real (which makes my stomach churn, because I want him to be in to it). Eastman stays down a long time, which is even stranger. When they replayed this later on the PPV, on the big screen we of course got to hear the mics in the octagon, and unless they dubbed it (doubtful), it sounded like a pretty solid hit. To bring us down from the excitement, we get to sit around for another 30 minutes while various loud rap music blares from the speakers. Bruce Buffer finally alerts us that the second prelim fight is about to begin. I think this is how those people at the WCW world wide tapings in the early 90s must have felt! Ivan Salaverry def. Tony Fryklund, via bodylock (1st). This is a quick fight, but obviously a lot more action packed. Salaverry pounced on Fryklund and appeared to try for a choke, but just hung on, and then wrapped his legs in a figure four position, around Fryklund's body, forcing him to verbally tap out. Frylund was slow to get up and looked to be in a lot of pain. Salaverry was playing to the crowd a lot before and after and got a nice pop. Ok, about 30 minutes more of waiting around, and enduring loud rap music. And we are LIVE~! as the camera goes around the crowd panning around the fans...and it's...more waiting. See, while all of you got to see the long introduction with the announcers, oddsmaker, etc., we get to....listen to more loud rap music. I guess because of feedback, we couldn't hear the TV feed, but we couldn't even SEE it either, as the whole time, the screens just had "The War of 04" graphic up. This is getting to be a lot of down time. I would have liked to have at least SEEN the odds. I noticed Joe Rogan was not there, and there's a new girl doing the interviewes. I take it from this thread that Frank Mir was filling in. What's the story with Rogan? Is he gone for good? Evan Tanner def. Robbie Lawler, triangle choke (1st). Tanner is a big crowd favorite, getting a big pop. What's up with the dreads though? Does he have anew hairstyle every show? My dad's opinion: Lawler will win because he's 12 years younger than the other guy. I counter with the well roundedness and experience of Tanner, and am of course right. Lawler's big SLAM~! takedown get's the crowd to erupt, but as soon as he's taken down, Tanner starts going for the triangle, as the smart fans in the crowd start buzzing, and before you know it, it's locked on perfectly! My dad has no idea what has just happened, as I try to explain to him how a triangle works. Fun action, but again really short fight! Frank Trigg def. Venato Charuto Varrisimo, TKO (2nd). Excellent fight! Charuto is very popular with the crowd getting the star pop. Good back and forth action in the first round, very exciting as Charuto would try various submissions and Trigg would pound him and escape. Charuto got Trigg in a perfect triangle, and Trigg somehow escaped which got a big reaction from the crowd. 2nd round, Charuto just looked tired, and Trigg's power took advantage of that. Trigg threw some hard forearms that had Charuto staggered, and he looked out of it and I thought the fight should have been stopped, but Trigg was allowed a few more shots on the crowd before the ref finally stopped it. As the graphic came up for Hughes/St. Pierre, I became anxious, since this is the fight myself and most of the crowd wanted to see. Unlike before the show, as St. Pierrer entered he got....BOOED?! I was one of the only people in the place (there were a few sporadic others also) standing and applauding the guy (which made me a heel with a lot of the intoxicated people around me). Hughes came out to a MAMOTH reaction, flashbolts and easily the pop of the night. Before the fight, a big USA chant breaks out. Oooh, this is going to be an uphill battle. Matt Hughes def. Georges St. Pierre, armbar (1st-4.59...). FUCKKKKKKK.......one fucking second. Just one second, if he could have just held on....man. Well, the fight intself, although far shorter than I wanted to go was very good, as both traded, and everytime Hughes would try to ground him, Georges would fight it off and get back up. Various fans around me yell "shut this guy's mouth, up, Matt" and "beat his Canadian ass" as more USA chants break out. I didn't know we were at war with Canada outside of WWE. As the clock winded down, I expressed my thoughts at how well I thought the round went, and anticipated the 2nd round, as George had top control, and all of a sudden Matt flips him...3...2....ARMBAR!?......1....FANS ERUPT. Wait did the round end?!? AH SHIT! That is really tough to swallow. It was a beauty by Hughes, but not a second too soon. Georges looks absolutely dejected, like he was going to lose it and cry any moment. His team members are consoling him, rubbing his head, patting his back, etc. Hughes shows a lot of class though by coming over to him, saying something encouraging, shaking his hand and giving him a hug. He also puts him over in his post fight interview as someone who has all the tools to be a champion some day. Rich Franklyn def. Jorge Rivera, armbar (3rd). Jorge and his team come out dressed in Red Sox gear, and several rows of fans behind me, also dressed in Sox gear, go nuts cheering for him. The whole fight was "Come on George-ie! (that's how they pronounced it), and chanting for him." Overall a mixed reaction from the New Jersey crowd though. This was an exciting fight that went back and forth, and I thought would go the distance. A lot from the clinch, and struggling for position. Rivera hit some shots on Franklyn too who had some blood and a huge mouse under his eye. Franklyn scored a fairly sudden armbar for the quick win in the 3rd. Tito Ortiz def. Patrick Cote, unanimous decision. Cote got the St. Pierre treatement, but not quite as bad. I was telling everyone around about how this should be really quick-either way. Tito's pop was second only to Hughes'. He gets a loud TITO chant to start. As they trade, Cote pops him one, as I jump out of my seat, and think "no way...?" And then Tito takes him to the ground and just keeps him there. The kid had NOTHING on the ground. I think he might have tried for an armbar once or twice, but nothing serious. As the round comes to an end, I'm shocked it's still going on. Another Tito chant starts up but when he takes him down again, this time fairly quickly, the fans start to turn as they just become bored. They wanted to see Tito just dominate this guy and take him out quick. In fact a small "COTE" chant breaks out on the floor which I happily join in with. Tito does hit some NASTY looking forearms to Cote's face, as the close ups just look brutal with Cote's head bouncing off the mat with each shot. The crowd goes "oooh" with each shot. I'm shocked he wasn't knocked out. The kid's tougher than we thought. It's going to a 3rd round, as my dad theorizes that Tito was told to dog it, and stretch it out since they were running early on PPV time. I can't really dispute that. Cote's only chance is to keep it standing, and I get really excited as he starts to take the offense to Tito and offers a few punches, momentarily putting Tito on the defensive, but once he gets him back down on the ground, that's it, it's obvious he's finished. Tito just lays there with him as the crowd chants "Stand them up". Doesn't happen, and the fight ends with a chorus of BOOOS. Even Tito announced as the winner gets Boos. He says he's sorry in his interview that it wasn't more exciting and said his cardio wasn't where it should be and he has a bulging disc. Fans leave pretty unhappy overall. The fight was probably more exciting live, since the forearm shots were pretty sick, and the brief moments where Cote would tag him got really exciting, creating the hope for the upset, but otherwise it was lot of laying around. I snag someone's $5 program they left behind on the way out. Back in the elavator of the hotel, there's a couple guys with some sponsored shirts on, and one of them is really upset, talking about how "we trained so hard for this, I don't know how we're going to come back from this" and another guy telling him "its alright, one loss doesn't mean much, it's not like boxing". It was an hispanic guy with a Yankees hat. I doubt he was with Rivera with the Bosox motif, and I doubt he was Canadian...maybe he was a teammate of Charutos? Overall, I share my dad's thoughts, in that the fights themselves were fun, but at nearly 6 hours (from 7 to almost 1), there was maybe 30 minutes of fight versus the rest just sitting around and waiting. It def. drains a lot out of you. Especially since we can't see what's going on the TV and are just subjected to loud rap music to listen to. But hey, the price was right (FREE~!) so, I can't complain. Overall, it was fun to see the UFC live, and about what I expect in terms of a collection of good but not great fights, but it'd be nice if the in the future they used time management a little better, or at least tell us honestly when the show will start so we're not left sitting around. I can't wait for the DVD to come out so I can see how it came out on TV and re-watch the fights.

Seriously. I've done a total 180 on this card. It went from "ah shit, there's no main event" to "every match on this show has the potential to be awesome, can go either way and will have huge reprecussions depending on the outcomes." With that, I'm off!

Suit yourself. I don't think on either night I went, there was one person who seemed disappointed when it was over...

I never understood why sports fans riot after their team WINS. It never seems to make much sense to me. Hell, even if they lose, it would be more productive to destroy the opposing city, not your own. What a bunch of idiots...

It all makes sense now. See, that picture was taken a few years ago, when Mikey and Bush attended the same movie together (likely one of Moore's previous films judging by the empty theatre). As an old friend, George W. saw nothing wrong with helping himself to a little popcorn. Note the look of astonishment on Mikey's face. He couldn't believe the betrayal that had just occured. This image captures the exact moment the grudge started. From then on, Mikey was determined to bring Bush down and began work on F9/11. A similar incident spurred Bowling for Columbine when Mikey was out dining with Charlton Heston at a family style Italian restaurante, and Mr. Heston took the last piece of veal parmigana.

I leave in just a couple hours to head up to Atlantic City for the show! I can't wait. I won't be back until late Saturday, so I'll post a report then! For the record, I'm picking George St. Pierre as well.

Red Hot, you're missing out, that's all I can say. I think what you've heard is false and skewed your judgement. James doesn't do any "support group" chat, unless you consider thanking the fans and getting them into a song, which all bands do. Their play sounded as tight as ever, especially compared to when I saw them last year and 3 years ago. The old school songs still crunch, and the only effects were Kirk's wah-wah which he's used since the Black Album. Lars' drums sound nothing like St. Anger, (even when the play St. Anger), and he gains so much respect being 40 and keeping up a frantic (excuse the pun!) pase for nearly 3 hours. James' voice sounded the best its been in years. They are one of the most amazing live bands out there, and if you deny yourself a chance to see them because of petty 2nd hand excuses, you're only cheating yourself.

Betttter watch out.....cause I'm the Assasin.....ok, no one remembers that Iron Maiden song accept me, but it's what I thought of when I read this. Israel just needs to off one more Hamas leader and we all get free Fallafals

No, those kids weren't at the first show, but I saw the pics of them at Metontour.com You got an AWESOME setlist man, I really wish they would have played that the first night. DYERS EVE, 'nuff said. You are truly blessed to have heard that live. I was hoping one of the 2 nights I was going they'd bust it out, but oh well. Yes, the pyro for One is amazing, and you got to love the soundbytes from Full Metal Jacket they used too. Remember to check www.livemetallica.com to buy a live recording of your show!

Ooooh I HATE ref bumps. Nothing takes away any suspension of disbelief more than that. First of all it's usually incredibly contrived, and when he gets "bumped" it looks so stupid that the ref stays down and out for so long, and just conveniantly gets up in time to count after the heel does whatever. Also, shouldn't "The GM" or whatever be watching and immediately send out another ref to officiate if the current one is down? If it's done on purpose, why isn't the wrestler disqualified?! It just bugs the hell out of me. I don't think we need to go to an ROH style, all clean match format, but enforcing the rules and actually making it seem somewhat legite or important would go along way. More like a UFC style...

Kids LOVE President Bush, damnit.

Are you kidding? She wants to be dictator.

I guess I'm rooting for the Redskins...more so than usual! http://www.snopes.com/sports/football/election.asp

Just got back from the show in Philadelphia! So awesome once again. I got to see Godsmack's full set this time (on account of, ya know, not getting to hang out with the band again! ) and they were very good. The extended double drum solo thing they do is breath taking. Really, really cool. Crowd was into them and all their big hits and Sully is an excellent frontman and reminded me of James with his interactions with the crowds. Not much new to say about Metallica. It was basically the same show as DC, which is good because that show kicked so much ass, but I was looking forward to a few more setlist changes. King Nothing, Leper Messiah and Wherever I May Roam were new. If it wasn't sold out I'd probably attempt to go to the second Philly show tommorow. Oh well, I guess life can't be all Metallica concerts (why not?). Here's the set: Blackened Fuel Leper Messiah Wherever I May Roam King Nothing The unforgiven God That Failed St. Anger Fade To Black Master Of Puppets Fight Fire With Fire -------- No Leaf Clover Nothing Else Matters Sad But True One Enter Sandman -------- Disposable Heroes Seek And Destroy

I don't know what you mean "wrestling setup" (no they didn't play in a ring!). It was center stage like a basketball court. Here are some pics of the stage setup that should give you an idea:

Everything sounded great, they has the most energy I've ever seen them play with. Enter Sandman by far got the biggest "pop", its like the Hulk Hogan of Metallica songs, it's not the best, its kind of old after so many times, but its still awesome to see/hear live and will get a huge reaction every time.

Ten Smiling Morons love The Smart Marks.

3 Dogs, A Bichon Frise named Raffi who will soon turn 14. A Maltese named Buddy, 10 and a fairly new Pomeranian puppy named Jesse, 10 months. The Bichon I've had since I was little, but he's recently gone blind and has trouble moving around The maltese is basically my mom's lap pet but he's sweet, and the puppy is just insane. Pomeranians are wild dogs. He's always up for playing or chewing on something, namely my fingers, socks or the 2 older dogs (they sure LOVE that ( ). Otherwise I've had in the past 2 guinea pigs, 2 parakeets, 2 hamsters, 4 hermit crabs and countless goldfish all deceased.