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I've been told this one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey baby, I wish I was sin(x)^2 and you were cos(x)^2 because then together we would be 1.

8.1, only time Raw ever had an 8 rating. Owen's death was on all of the news channels, while Eddie's seemed to be just MSNBC. I'm sure that had something to do with it.

Did anyone watch it?

I was under the impression that the "room is spinning" line was just an exaggeration used by BX to mock DH about the Bossman's death. Maybe I'm wrong, though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I searched for it, it was Czech. Sometimes I just skim through the RAW threads without reading the names. I didn't realize it was Czech being sarcastic. The Bossman comments were ridiculous. They deserved a thread making fun of them. Nothing said last night was anywhere near that over the top. Frigid is just being an asshole.

Yeah, I can't believe anyone would ever cry over someone's death man. You're a fucking idiot. Shut the fuck up. The room spinning and vomiting was overboard, but there's nothing wrong with anyone crying. If people do it for movies and fictional characters dying, it's certainly okay for to do it for a real death, especially if it's somebody that they've watched every week for 10 years and may have looked up to.

I almost wish it was that too for a different reason. That fact that he died pushing his body to the limit to entertain everyone, even when he wasn't feeling good and should have been either at home resting or in a hospital just makes it more sad. Kennedy has to be most relieved person in the world though.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/causeofdeath Vickie Guerrero speaks on Eddie's autopsy report Nov. 15, 2005 After the untimely passing of Eddie Guerrero, WWE and the entire sports-entertainment community is steel reeling from the devastating loss of a champion. The initial autopsy reports on Guerrero have come in. WWE.com spoke with Eddie’s widow, Vickie Guerrero, earlier today. “It was heart failure. It was from his past – the drinking and the drug abuse. They found signs of heart disease. She (the examiner) said that the blood vessels were very worn and narrow, and that just showed all the abuse from the scheduling of work and his past. And Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that’s what caused the heart failure. He went into a deep sleep. As soon as they saw his heart, they saw the lining of his heart already had the heart disease. There was no trauma, and Eddie hadn’t hurt himself in any way. It answered a lot of questions. I knew Eddie wasn’t feeling very good for the last week. He was home and kept saying he wasn’t feeling good and we thought it was just “road tired.” So we thought he just had to rest. It answered a lot of my questions, too, because he was just so exhausted. She said it was normal because the heart was working so hard. When he didn’t call me last night and the night before I knew it was for real, because he would call me every night. I miss his phone calls. I cried through the whole thing (last night). I loved his laugh. His laugh was the best. We just celebrated his four-year sobriety last Thursday. We just thought we had life by the handful. We thought we had it all figured out. He worked so hard to make a better life for us. I’m just overwhelmed by how people are coming out. It’s touched my heart a lot. Everybody was just in awe last night in how beautifully everything was put together. All my life was wrestling. All he did was take care of them and live for that. And I don’t know what to do now.”

How is that "classic" Eddie Guerrero? Classic Eddie Guerrero would be five-star matches in Japan with Chris Benoit and the like. That's just stuff from his racist caricature persona of the last three years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And of course no one liked that persona at all.

Even with the safer style, WWE gets more injuries than more violent promotions ever did such as ECW. So I doubt blading and chairs have much to do with it. It's more what Test said, wrestling 5 days a week every week with no breaks. How can any of them stand it? As can be seen with all the neck surgeries and deaths, they can't stand it. Human beings need some type of recuperation time.

Maybe it's time to finally have an off season. Or at least limit the days per week they perform. You know he's right about what he said about Eddie not being the last one to die. Something needs to change.

styles with the ownage on coach *coach stumbles over words for 30 seconds* "the word you're looking for is clinic"

Hate fans sometimes.

Your welcome. You could try responding to the post rather than one line of it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good post. It's funny he didn't ignore you yet.

WWE fans: Dean who?

You're right, pwtorch originally reported that he died after they eat breakfast. Now they're saying Eddie and Chavo ate together before they went to sleep. Still, in any case it's not like he was suffering for days if Chavo didn't sense anything wrong a few hours before hand. And it must have been sudden if he died with a toothbrush still in his mouth.

Well said. We're all sad because we'll never see him again but he had a great career and he did finally get his due unlike a lot of other wrestling deaths. Owen for one. He went out respected by millions of people around the world and at the top in his profession. His death also seemed to be pretty quick since Chavo had just eaten breakfast with him and didn't know anything was wrong. Eddie didn't even have time to take the toothbrush out of his mouth. I feel bad for Benoit, Malenko, Mysterio, etc.. and his family, but I honestly don't see much reason to feel sorry for Eddie. Eddie had an awesome life and died having fun. If I had the option right now of dying a fast death at 38 with everything I've ever wanted to do accomplished in life surrounded by lots of friends and family, I'd be more than glad to. So when you watch moments on Raw, try not to think that he's gone and you'll never see him again, but instead try to think of how much he was enjoying what he was doing at the time and how good he was. Like Fishy said, Raw isn't a funeral, it's a tribute.

Is Bradshaw still on? I turned on MSNBC and it was a commercial.

These radio hosts are obviously a fan of the Vince Russo "any publicity is good publicity" train of thought. You know, it's pointless to send them letters. They have to know saying something like that would be offensive and they're only saying it to get a reaction. To get hate mail and to get people posting about them on forums. Maybe if the letters were sent directly to ESPN.

According to CRZ, it was July 22, 2002. That was also the match where Eddie pulled out that fucking awesome counter to the Rock bottom.

His promo against the Rock where he talked about how he ripped the Rock's poster off the wall and burned it to teach their kids a lesson and he's got the people's mullet. Still makes me laugh my ass off. "Orale, orale, La Roca. Ese, man, who do you think you are, holmes? You know, man, I gotta problem with you, ese. You see, hey, yeah, you I'm talkin' to you, Rock. You see, I got dos chavalitas at home - I got two little girls, ese, and they WORSHIP the ground that their father walks on, they idolise me, man. And you see, man, the other night when I walked in the room to say good night, for them to show their father the respect that he deserves, ese - I saw something very disturbing. See I looked at their wall and not only did that have a picture of me, but right next to that picture was a poster - of El Rey a la Scorpion, ese - The Rock. OOH, ese, ooh - Mr. Big Shot, ese - the movie star man. You know what, man? In my heart, I *knew* I had to teach my little chavalitas, my little girls a lesson - I had to show 'em discipline. So I got your poster, man, and I got it and I ripped it up and I burned it! And they ran after me going 'Daddy? Papa, papa, por queeee, por que, por que, whyyy, why did you rip that poster?' SHUT UUUUP! Don't disrespect me!" "Ese ese, you know what man, that's exactly, that's exactly what I'm talkin' about, holmes. You don't respect NO ONE, ese. Huh. You know what, man... The reality, ese - man - you're jealous. You're jealous of me, man. You know what, man - see, you know and all these gavachos know that I'm the better wrestler, holmes. I'm more good looking. The People's Champion? Orale, ese, hey man - lemme tell you something. I got the hottest haircut goin' on in America today, man. NOBODY, ese, nobody can wear the mullet like I do. I mean, ese, come on, man, this should be called the People's Mullet."

I think Bret's a better authority on what was a better match with Owen then you are. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then all of you have to agree with me that Bret/Shawn ironman is one of Bret's best matches ever.

That's an amazing tribute video.

Chavo beat JBL clean from the sound of things, nice. WWE is doing a terrific job here.

What, girls shouldn't be on the show because Eddie died? I wouldn't be surprised it it was a better match than Cena/Orton.

That's because SmackDown didn't exist until August 1999. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oops, then I guess I thought that about Raw.