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The main event of which featured Kevin Nash v BUFF BAGWELL

RVD.

I'm starting to wonder if this guy even watches wrestling.

How can anyone claim Goldberg was booked badly. He just IS bad, no amount of booking could cover that.

Well, lets get to it then. I have to say Dynamite Kid, the man who popularized Junior Heavyweight wrestling. Without him, there'd be no Chris Benoit.

MONSTER PUSH??!! WTF!!! He's beaten Maven and Tommy Dreamer, and been made to look like HHH's man-servant. I hate him as much as everybody else, but come on, he's received a mild, at best, push.

Woooooooo.....You go girlfriend!!!! erm, i mean good work, carry on.

By this logic, Billy Gunn and Albert should also dissappear.

Good to see all these arguments against what I said about RVD.

Brock's had more good matches this year then RVD has had in his career (of course, that equals about 2). Listen son, as I said in the other thread (which, may I point out, anyone is yet to argue with):

I am in the mood for quotes because: I was burned and severely scarred in a childhood fire, started by my elder brother, which killed my parents. I was taken care of for the past 25 years by a man claiming to be my father. He told me i'd never again hear quotes, because I was hideous and everyone would laught at me. Thus, when I miraculously recovered from the burns, I searched long and hard for quotes. I told you not to ask!!!

Erm, why?

Good thing Angle's not over-rated though, eh.

Sorry, but I feel the need to argue. Since there's always people arguing in favour of Angle, Jericho, Booker, Edge, Christian, Matt Hardy and more being "good workers", and since everyone keeps saying RVD isn't a "good worker", I feel like I should argue for him. (As he's clearly in the same league as those guys, though obviously not in the same league as Benoit, Eddie, Austin until about a year ago, Ultimo before surgery, etc.) Here's the list of Rob Van Dam's matches (*SINGLES* matches on *PPV*) that I rate as being "good matches". Vs Jerry Lynn, Living Dangerously '99 Vs Jerry Lynn, Hardcore Heaven '99 Vs Ballz Mahoney, Anarchy Rulz '99 Vs Sabu, Guilty As Charged '00 Vs Jerry Lynn, Hardcore Heaven '00 Vs Scotty Anton, Heat Wave '00 Vs Rhino, Anarchy Rulz '00 Vs Jerry Lynn, Guilty As Charged '01 Vs Jeff Hardy, InVasion Vs Jeff Hardy, Summerslam '01 Vs Chris Jericho, Unforgiven '01 Vs Eddie Guerrero, Judgement Day '02 Vs Chris Benoit, Summerslam '02 That's 13 matches! Not even including TV matches, such as the TV title win against Bam Bam Bigelow or the RAW match vs Eddie, or tag team matches, such as w/Sabu vs Hayabusa and Jinsei Shinzaki at Heat Wave '98 or w/Jerry Lynn vs Lance Storm and Justin Credible at Heat Wave '99 (I could also include Japanese matches that I have seen, such as vs Sabu or vs Dan Kroffat). Now, I would like to hear an argument against this from the "RVD is a terrible worker" crowd.

Are you honestly saying an average WWE PPV is preferable to an average TNA one?

*Starts "You screwed Kev" chant* *come on...anybody?*

...and how much do you pay for the WWE pay-per-views every month. Exactly. TNA put on a better product for almost the same money. Now I live in the UK, so don't have this problem. But I can safely say that since I prefer the TNA tapes i've *BOUGHT/PAID FOR* to the WWE's PPV's, which I get for free, I would, if I lived in the American States of Unitedness (hah, I crack myself up), buy TNA over WWE.

Why, exactly, can't you watch NWA:TNA?

Oh right, in that case i'd still have Cantona no.1 and Keane no.2, and probably have Giggs no.3, Hughes no.4 and Beckham no.5. PS I dislike Beckham as much as everybody else, but I can't dismiss his ability. He's probably in the top 5 in the world today, and United will miss him.

I guess he'd go to MLW and be given the book. I can't picture him in TNA or ROH. He would probably fit-in best with XPW, if it ever gets going again. Only trouble is his history with them, which can surely be fixed.

You know, i'm starting to hate this guy. This is a great idea, if they would move Rob to Smackdown! where he can go back to being a heel (or atleast "cocky", who cares if he gets cheered regardless). But i'd still prefer Fonzie comes back!!!

Just two examples of statements that have been repeated for 6 PAGES!!!! stop arguing with this "WWE mark". He has admitted to have never seen wrestling outside of the WWE, and that he doesn't care about (probably doesn't even know about) anything older than two years. He is an example of the two things I hate most: 1) Those who think theres no such thing as wrestling outside WWE 2) Those who think a wrestler sucks because he was in WCW/ECW/Japan (apparantly, if he was a real wrestler he would have been in WWE, cause WWE IS WRESTLING, you see). So, stop arguing with him, and stop repeating FACTS, like Benoit/Eddie/Austin > Angle

Though clearly not referring to any particular bad wrestler refusing to put over a particular good wrestler with a high-flying technical style which would upstage said bad wrestler, resulting in the mid-card demotion of this good wrestler, who could, after all, be anyone.

Potential to do what? When he goes out there weekly and fails in every conceivable category (He's not over, he's not good in the ring, he's not charasmatic, he doesn't have good mic skills) how can anyone see potential? Because he's the son of "Cowboy" Bob Orton. They think that he has latent talent in him given to him by his father. That's just my theory. ...Backed up by such ring generals as Erik Watts, Brian Christopher and the living legend, David Flair.