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Yep. He won the battle royal as Ciclope, then unmasked and beat Jericho for the Cruiserweight title, I believe.

What accounted for some of the big changes in buyrates for WCW over the months. Were some shows just promoted horribly and others very well? I mean Starcade '98 with a 1.1 to Souled Out the next month with a .25 and Superbrawl after that with a .15? Slamboree '97 with a .44? Wasn't WCW at its hottest at this point, with the whole nWo angle and kicking the WWF's ass?

Greed '01 0.10 Sin '01 0.17 Starrcade '00 0.32 Mayhem '00 0.45 Halloween Havoc '00 0.15 Fall Brawl '00 0.16 New Blood Rising '00 0.18 Bash At The Beach '00 0.26 Great American Bash '00 0.20 Slamboree '00 0.14 Spring Stampede '00 0.27 Uncensored '00 0.13 SuperBrawl '00 0.10 Souled Out '00 0.25 Starrcade '99 0.32 Mayhem '99 0.45 Halloween Havoc '99 0.52 Fall Brawl '99 0.35 Road Wild '99 0.55 Bash At The Beach '99 0.39 Great American Bash '99 0.43 Slamboree '99 0.48 Spring Stampede '99 0.60 Uncensored '99 0.73 SuperBrawl '99 0.15 Souled Out '99 0.25 Starrcade '98 1.15 World War III '98 0.75 Halloween Havoc '98 0.78 Fall Brawl '98 0.70 Road Wild '98 0.91 Bash At The Beach '98 1.50 Great American Bash '98 0.75 Slamboree '98 0.44 Spring Stampede '98 0.72 Uncensored '98 1.10 SuperBrawl '98 1.10 Souled Out '98 1.02 Starrcade '97 1.90 World War III '97 0.56 Halloween Havoc '97 1.10 Fall Brawl '97 0.53 Road Wild '97 0.65 Bash At The Beach '97 0.78 Great American Bash '97 0.60 Slamboree '97 0.44 Spring Stampede '97 0.58 Uncensored '97 0.89 SuperBrawl '97 0.75 Souled Out '97 0.47 Starrcade '96 0.95 World War III '96 0.55 Halloween Havoc '96 0.70 Fall Brawl '96 0.65 Hog Wild '96 0.62 Bash At The Beach '96 0.71 Great American Bash '96 0.48 Slamboree '96 0.44 Uncensored '96 0.70 SuperBrawl '96 0.63 Starrcade '95 0.36 World War III '95 0.43 Halloween Havoc '95 0.60 Fall Brawl '95 0.48 Bash At The Beach '95 0.82 Great American Bash '95 0.51 Slamboree '95 0.57 Uncensored '95 0.96 SuperBrawl '95 0.95 Starrcade '94 0.60 Halloween Havoc '94 0.97 Fall Brawl '94 0.53 Bash At The Beach '94 1.02 Slamboree '94 0.48 Spring Stampede '94 0.53 SuperBrawl '94 0.50 Starrcade '93 0.55 Battle Bowl '93 0.27 Halloween Havoc '93 0.50 Fall Brawl '93 0.46 Beach Blast '93 0.50 Slamboree '93 0.50 SuperBrawl '93 0.50 Starrcade '92 0.50 Halloween Havoc '92 0.90 Great American Bash '92 0.40 Beach Blast '92 0.40 Wrestle War '92 0.61 SuperBrawl '92 0.96 Starrcade '91 0.50 Halloween Havoc '91 0.80 Great American Bash '91 1.00 SuperBrawl '91 0.96 Wrestle War '91 1.20 Starrcade '90 1.30 Halloween Havoc '90 1.33 Great American Bash '90 1.70 Capital Combat '90 1.40 Wrestle War '90 1.60 Starrcade '89 1.30 Halloween Havoc '89 1.77 Great American Bash '89 1.50 Music City Showdown '89 1.30 Chi-Town Rumble '89 1.50 Starrcade '88 1.80 Great American Bash '88 2.20 Bunkhouse Stampede '88 3.50 Starrcade '87 3.30

From 1wrestling... "The second match of the night had Garrison Cade taking on the aforementioned Eugene. Eugene may be Ohio Valley Wrestling's Matt Weiss, who was on the original card listing. Eugene's gimmick reminds me of Hillbilly Jim... real friendly, shaking hands with everyone... and so simple-minded he's a few ants short of a picnic. A lady in front of me wondered out loud, "Where did they dig this guy up?" As the bell rang Eugene climbed up onto the top turnbuckle and prepared to leap off before being talked back down by the ref. As the match started Cade kept getting flustered by Eugene's antics before finally luring him in and hammering with a clothesline. Cade began the offensive on Eugene, stomping on him, throwing him outside and then bringing him in with a suplex for a two count. A body slam and two running elbows off the ropes by Cade got another two count on Eugene, who the crowd slowly got behind. Cade continued the attack, getting more flustered after a back body drop gets only two. Cade yells out, "What the hell?!!" Cade dragged Eugene over to the corner and smashed his head into the turnbuckle, only to see Eugene "hulk up". Cade went for a kick, which was caught and Eugene delivered two karate chops to Cade's forehead, before hitting an atomic drop, a reverse atomic drop and finally an airplane spin on Cade. As Cade hit the mat Eugene got up on the top turnbuckle and a double ax-handle to Cade got a 2 3/4. Eugene went for another airplane spin on Cade, who reversed into a DDT. Cade got up on the top turnbuckle and delivered a Macho Man worthy flying elbow for the three count. Eugene received some good cheers as he was helped to the back afterwards."

That was a fantastic match.

Not many people interested in Heat tonight, huh? Oh well, I don't blame 'em, that Duke/Xavier game was pretty damn good.

Getting squashed by Taker = big push.

Yep, I remember seeing that as well. Shane Douglas was in the WWF pre-Dynamic Dudes for a few months and was in the 91 Royal Rumble.

Must have been that Taker/Giant Gonzalez match that hooked ya. No, but I've always liked WM9 (one of the few) and _love_ KOTR93, so I know where you're coming from.

I guess it doesn't literally have to be a "mask", either. I remember Steve Austin dressing as a ring crew worker and trapping Vince Macmahon inside the steel cage on the Heat before the Breakdown PPV.

One more that just makes me laugh:

I don't have as much faith as you, I'm afraid. It's Gerwitz. He STILL has Rosey going out there as the S.H.I.T...I wouldn't expect too many good things to come from this. Poor Nick Dinsmore...Wrestlecrap, here he comes...

I just have to add another one which is from a RAW before Summerslam in 1997. HHH is standing in the ring waiting for Mankind to come out and Chyna is outside the ring. Mankind is in the ring dressed like a cameraman (but Foley is still wearing the Mankind mask so it's not much of a mystery) and drills HHH with the camera. JR yells "The cameraman! The camerman is attacking Helmsley!"

What's your favorite angle involving a mask? Maybe Chris Jericho taking all the luchadores masks in WCW? Or Dean Malenko dressing as Ciclope in that battle royal? Or maybe Undertaker disguising as Kane, or maybe DDP dressing as La Parka and beating Randy Savage? What made you mark out the most at the time?

I've never understood why these guys couldn't put on a **** match. This match is okayish, but wish a bad finish.

Wow, thanks!!! We should really post more media here. I have no idea how to do it either.

I wonder if when Vince fired him he brought in Ahmed Johnson to yell "YOU'RE GOING DOWN!"

Damn, I feel like the newbie here. I watched WWF casually in late 98 at a friends house, but didn't pay much attention to it. Then I remember going over to his house every Monday night and we'd watch wrestling in early 99. I remember rolling my eyes at first, but then I started to get into it. The Rock was so cool, Mankind was awesome, there was HHH and Austin. We'd watch some WCW too, and I liked that two rival shows were on the same night. The buildup for WM15 and the Austin/Rock match hooked me, and when I get hooked on something I get _hooked_ on something. I've gone from a total know-nothing mark in early 99 to having seen almost every WWF and WCW show there is (though I haven't seen a lot of the NWA) and becoming a smark. That's probably why I love the old school board so much, because there's so much little stuff I don't know much about.

I'm sure threads like this have been on here many times before, but screw it. I'm interested in seeing the diversity as far as when everyone started regularly watching wrestling and what hooked them, if anything, and made them continue to watch.

I'd take Austin over Douglas.

It's all subjective. And I really think that a great show is about more than just the number of stars you give out, too...some shows are just more entertaining than others.

Yeah, I forgot to mention Summerslam 98. KOTR was pretty decent too.

All of Bret's matches were ***+ at KOTR, and Hogan JOBS! (That's why I love it ) Nothing horrible at all on it. Backlash 2000 is a good PPV, but one of the 5 best _ever_?

I like Wrestlemania IX.

I voted for SS90. SS95 is _NOT_ that bad a PPV. Diesel/Mabel sucks, yes, but anything with a near ***** is not the worst show ever. Throw in Hakushi/123, Bret/Kane, and HOROWITZ WINS~! and it's not the worst Summerslam ever, IMO. Summerslam 1990 has a good tag team match...and that's about it.