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While last night was an excelent card I am looking forward to tonight's show even more

1,200 was an overstatement, I was there and would put it around 800. The two main events were both pretty kickass. More or less everyone wanted the tag match stopped after Mark got hurt, but since they had to do the angle with Shelley and Sabin I suppose they had to go on...but the end of the match saw Jay get his ass kicked for 10 minutes, hit two moves, and get the pin. They were advertising like Bruno would be signing and didn't mention a price, even when they announced to the crowd they didn't mention a price, but when you got to the table it was twenty bucks...I passed. Overall very good show, even though they goughed on tickets. P.S. Haze getting speared out of her sneakers was fucking gold. They flew a legit 20 feet into the crowd.

I just started playing Trama Center, while I like it some levels are frustrating the hell out of me

I think "overproduced" is an understatement... Yeah, didn't love it myself. Wouldn't be shocked to see this released in 2009-2010

Don't get me started on Alvarez's Oz ending... I like to think that he lived. Stayed bedridden a few months, and then moved the family out of the Aventine (sp) and...I dunno, farmed.

I liked the episode as a stand alone, but didn't love it. If they're burried alive, and dead to the show then it was kinda pointless. So I guess we'll see. It was nice to see Shannon, Boone, Ethan, and Artz again though.

Herman Moore was the best wide reciever for the Lions when Morton was there and in his heyday

(1) Jack Bauer - 24 vs (12) The Incredible Hulk (6) Faith - Buffy vs (2) T-Bag - Prison Break SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild vs (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team (3) Sawyer- Lost vs (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel vs (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue (3) Omar Little - The Wire vs (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos vs (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander vs (10) Macgyver - Macgyver vs (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz

ROUND 2 RESULTS NORTHERN DIVISION (1) Jack Bauer - 24 22 vs (8) Jayne Cobb - Firefly 5 (12) The Incredible Hulk 14 vs (4) Vern Schilinger- Oz 13 (6) Faith - Buffy 10 vs (11) Escobar- Nip/Tuck 6 vs (14) Joe Rogan - Inside the UFC/Fear Factor 8 -Faith and Escobar tied in round 1, no good way to tiebreak, so it's a three way (7) Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire 10 vs (2) T-Bag - Prison Break 16 SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild 18 vs (8) Al Bundy-Married with Children 9 (5) Lucius Vorenus - Rome 12 vs (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team 14 (11) Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG 12 vs (3) Sawyer- Lost 15 (7) The Beast - Angel 6 vs (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz 20 EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel 15 vs (8) Aaron Pierce - 24 11 (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue 13 vs (4) Titus Pullo - Rome 12 (11) Big Dan Dority- Deadwood 12 vs (3) Omar Little - The Wire 13 (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. 14 vs (2) Al Swearengen - Deadwood 12 WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos 18 vs (9) Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons 8 (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek 15 vs (4) Spike - Buffy/Angel 10 (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander 14 vs (3) Shane Vendrell - The Shield 12 (10) Macgyver - Macgyver 13 vs (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz 13 Another tie, another 3 way ************ ROUND THREE ************ (1) Jack Bauer - 24 vs (12) The Incredible Hulk (6) Faith - Buffy vs (2) T-Bag - Prison Break SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild vs (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team (3) Sawyer- Lost vs (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel vs (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue (3) Omar Little - The Wire vs (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos vs (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander vs (10) Macgyver - Macgyver vs (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz

voting will end sometime this afternoon, please get in any last ballots

Antony: "Am I a clown to amuse you?" (or something like that). Yeah, loved it. We didn't actually see Lucious die, he was near death...but since there won't be another episode I suppose that doesn't matter.

While I am enjoying the show, you gotta wonder how they can keep up good shows. While I don't want it to end before it should, I at least hope they have an end in sight and know where they're going with it.

I'll be there. This probably isn't the opinion everyone else shares, but I'd rather see less of Dragons Gate and more ROH guys

...how the hell did The Fonz not get voted in? That didn't hit me till just now

If you base it episode for episode it's my favorite show. It sincerly sucks to see it gone so soon. I liked the ending. Would like to see more, but since it won't happen it'll have to stay around through DVDs. I ALMOST got misty when Antony was about to take his life. He was my favorite character in the series, I would have liked to have seen more of him and Cleopatra, rather then to do their entire storyline over two episodes. ALTHOUGH I did not like Vorenus dying cause the little shithead boy couldn't behave If I had to personally rank HBO series, for me it goes. 1. Rome 2. Deadwood 3. Oz 4. Six Feet Under 5. The Sopranos

ROUND 2 (1) Jack Bauer - 24 ...I love Jayne, but this is JACK BAUER vs (8) Jayne Cobb - Firefly (12) The Incredible Hulk vs (4) Vern Schilinger- Oz ...Hulk had his sensitive moments, Vern and the Aryan brotherhood did not (6) Faith - Buffy vs (11) Escobar- Nip/Tuck vs (3) Joe Rogan - Inside the UFC/Fear Factor -Faith and Escobar tied in round 1, no good way to tiebreak, so it's a three way (7) Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire vs (2) T-Bag - Prison Break ...toughest pick for me. Fact is Wee Bay got sent to the can, while T-Bag escaped SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild vs (8) Al Bundy-Married with Children (5) Lucius Vorenus - Rome vs (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team (11) Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG vs (3) Sawyer- Lost (7) The Beast - Angel vs (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz ...The Beast goes down, and the hat stays on EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel vs (8) Aaron Pierce - 24 (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue vs (4) Titus Pullo - Rome (11) Big Dan Dority- Deadwood vs (3) Omar Little - The Wire ...another tough one, but I give it to Omar and his shot gun over Dan and his knife (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. vs (2) Al Swearengen - Deadwood ...Al has an easy time pushing around cripples WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos vs (9) Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek vs (4) Spike - Buffy/Angel (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander vs (3) Shane Vendrell - The Shield (10) Macgyver - Macgyver vs (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz

SORRY SORRY SORRY FOR THE MIX UP. Joe Rogan makes it to Round 2, not Mal.

ROUND 1 RESULTS (1) Jack Bauer - 24 25 vs (16) Robert McCall - The Equalizer 1 (8) Jayne Cobb - Firefly 14 vs (9) Brother Mouzone - The Wire 12 (5) Sylar - Heroes 6 vs (12) The Incredible Hulk 20 (4) Vern Schilinger- Oz 21 vs (13) Lincoln Burrows - Prison Break 3 (6) Faith - Buffy 13 vs (11) Escobar- Nip/Tuck 13 TIE! Both will move on (3) Malcolm Rynolds - Firefly 12 vs (14) Joe Rogan - Fear Factor/Inside the UFC 14 (7) Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire 17 vs (10) Farik - Sleeper Cell 6 (2) T-Bag - Prison Break 15 vs (15) Admiral William Adama, BSG 9 SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild 26 vs (16) Keith Mars - Veronica Mars 0 (8) Al Bundy-Married with Children 14 vs (9) Cordell Walker - Walker Texas Ranger 12 (5) Lucius Vorenus - Rome 17 vs (12) Michael Knight - Knight Rider 8 (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team 18 vs (13) Bob Fucking Barker - The Price is Right 8 (6) Dexter Morgan-Dexter 12 vs (11) Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG 14 (3) Sawyer- Lost 18 vs (14) Jack Malone - Without a Trace 7 (7) The Beast - Angel 19 vs (10) Holtz - Angel 7 (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz 20 vs (15) Jethro Gibbs - NCIS 3 EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel 15 vs (16) Sam Beckett - Quantem Leap 10 (8) Aaron Pierce - 24 13 vs (9) George Hearst- Deadwood 12 (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue 14 vs (12) Tommy Gavin - Rescue Me 9 (4) Titus Pullo - Rome 16 vs (13) Margos Dezerian - The Shield 9 (6) John Locke - LOST 10 vs (11) Big Dan Dority- Deadwood 15 (3) Omar Little - The Wire 16 vs (14) Nikita - La Femme Nikita 10 (7) Antwan Mitchell - The Shield 8 vs (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. 17 (2) Al Swearengen - Deadwood 16 vs (15) Richie Apreal - The Sopranos 10 WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos 25 vs (16) Ryan Atwood - The OC 1 (8) Buffy Summers - Buffy 9 vs (9) Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons 17 (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek 15 vs (12) Curtis "Lemonhead" Lemanski - The Shield 11 (4) Spike - Buffy/Angel 22 vs (13) Rupert Giles-Buffy 4 (6) Illyria - Angel 9 vs (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander 16 (3) Shane Vendrell - The Shield 17 vs (14) Johnny Drama - Entourage/Viking Quest 12 (7) Marlo Stansfield - The Wire 9 vs (10) Macgyver - Macgyver 17 (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz 18 vs (15) Captain Benjamin Sisko, Star Trek: DS9 5 ********* PLEASE EITHER BOLD YOUR PICKS OR JUST LIST YOUR PICKS NAME SEPERATE ********* ROUND 2 (1) Jack Bauer - 24 vs (8) Jayne Cobb - Firefly (12) The Incredible Hulk vs (4) Vern Schilinger- Oz (6) Faith - Buffy vs (11) Escobar- Nip/Tuck vs (3) Joe Rogan - Inside the UFC/Fear Factor -Faith and Escobar tied in round 1, no good way to tiebreak, so it's a three way (7) Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire vs (2) T-Bag - Prison Break SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild vs (8) Al Bundy-Married with Children (5) Lucius Vorenus - Rome vs (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team (11) Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG vs (3) Sawyer- Lost (7) The Beast - Angel vs (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel vs (8) Aaron Pierce - 24 (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue vs (4) Titus Pullo - Rome (11) Big Dan Dority- Deadwood vs (3) Omar Little - The Wire (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. vs (2) Al Swearengen - Deadwood WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos vs (9) Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek vs (4) Spike - Buffy/Angel (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander vs (3) Shane Vendrell - The Shield (10) Macgyver - Macgyver vs (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz

...sometimes firstr round matches are close, sorry. VOTING ENDS SUNDAY AFTERNOON

Heroes is definatly the better show right now, but let it run 3 seasons and see if it can still hold up. Like most others, I did not love the ending to the episode. I was sitting there thinking "ah Christsake, it's gonna be his dad." I liked the rest of the episode though

NORTHERN DIVISION (1) Jack Bauer - 24 vs (16) Robert McCall - The Equalizer (8) Jayne Cobb - Firefly vs (9) Brother Mouzone - The Wire (5) Sylar - Heroes vs (12) The Incredible Hulk (4) Vern Schilinger- Oz vs (13) Lincoln Burrows - Prison Break (6) Faith - Buffy vs (11) Escobar- Nip/Tuck (3) Malcolm Rynolds - Firefly vs (14) Joe Rogan - Fear Factor/Inside the UFC (7) Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire vs (10) Farik - Sleeper Cell (2) T-Bag - Prison Break vs (15) Admiral William Adama, BSG SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild vs (16) Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (8) Al Bundy-Married with Children vs (9) Cordell Walker - Walker Texas Ranger (5) Lucius Vorenus - Rome vs (12) Michael Knight - Knight Rider (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team vs (13) Bob Fucking Barker - The Price is Right (6) Dexter Morganr-Dexter vs (11) Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG (3) Sawyer- Lost vs (14) Jack Malone - Without a Trace (7) The Beast - Angel vs (10) Holtz - Angel (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz vs (15) Jethro Gibbs - NCIS EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel vs (16) Sam Beckett - Quantem Leap (8) Aaron Pierce - 24 vs (9) George Hearst- Deadwood (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue vs (12) Tommy Gavin - Rescue Me (4) Titus Pullo - Rome vs (13) Margos Dezerian - The Shield (6) John Locke - LOST vs (11) Big Dan Dority- Deadwood (3) Omar Little - The Wire vs (14) Nikita - La Femme Nikita (7) Antwan Mitchell - The Shield vs (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. (2) Al Swearengen - Deadwood vs (15) Richie Apreal - The Soprano' WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos vs (16) Ryan Atwood - The OC (8) Buffy Summers - Buffy vs (9) Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek vs (12) Curtis "Lemonhead" Lemanski - The Shield (4) Spike - Buffy/Angelp vs (13) Rupert Giles-Buffy (6) Illyria - Angel vs (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander (3) Shane Vendrell - The Shield vs (14) Johnny Drama - Entourage/Viking Quest (7) Marlo Stansfield - The Wire vs (10) Macgyver - Macgyver (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz vs (15) Captain Benjamin Sisko, Star Trek: DS9 Sorry that I didn't put better thoughts into the brackets, didn't want to make it look too much like I was setting up matches on purpose. Had I realized there were 15 HBO guys I'd have done so

BRACKETS ARE IN. Please don't get mad over seedings. I pretty much seeded with how well I knew the charcter, how well I thought others might know them, and overall of where they belong on the list. After seeding the divisions they were placed in were totally random. Have fun with it. Voting will last a couple/few days NORTHERN DIVISION (1) Jack Bauer - 24 vs (16) Robert McCall - The Equalizer (8) Jayne Cobb - Firefly vs (9) Brother Mouzone - The Wire (5) Sylar - Heroes vs (12) The Incredible Hulk (4) Vern Schilinger- Oz vs (13) Lincoln Burrows - Prison Break (6) Faith - Buffy vs (11) Escobar- Nip/Tuck (3) Malcolm Rynolds - Firefly vs (14) Joe Rogan - Fear Factor/Inside the UFC (7) Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire vs (10) Farik - Sleeper Cell (2) T-Bag - Prison Break vs (15) Admiral William Adama, BSG SOUTHERN DIVISION (1) Vic Mackie - The Sheild vs (16) Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (8) Al Bundy-Married with Children vs (9) Cordell Walker - Walker Texas Ranger (5) Lucius Vorenus - Rome vs (12) Michael Knight - Knight Rider (4) B.A. Baracus - A-Team vs (13) Bob Fucking Barker - The Price is Right (6) Dexter Morganr-Dexter vs (11) Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG (3) Sawyer- Lost vs (14) Jack Malone - Without a Trace (7) The Beast - Angel vs (10) Holtz - Angel (2) Simon Adebisi-Oz vs (15) Jethro Gibbs - NCIS EASTERN DIVISION (1) Angelus - Buffy/Angel vs (16) Sam Beckett - Quantem Leap (8) Aaron Pierce - 24 vs (9) George Hearst- Deadwood (5) Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue vs (12) Tommy Gavin - Rescue Me (4) Titus Pullo - Rome vs (13) Margos Dezerian - The Shield (6) John Locke - LOST vs (11) Big Dan Dority- Deadwood (3) Omar Little - The Wire vs (14) Nikita - La Femme Nikita (7) Antwan Mitchell - The Shield vs (10) Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. (2) Al Swearengen - Deadwood vs (15) Richie Apreal - The Soprano' WESTERN DIVISION (1) Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos vs (16) Ryan Atwood - The OC (8) Buffy Summers - Buffy vs (9) Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons (5) James T Kirk - Star Trek vs (12) Curtis "Lemonhead" Lemanski - The Shield (4) Spike - Buffy/Angel vs (13) Rupert Giles-Buffy (6) Illyria - Angel vs (11) Duncan MacCloud-Highlander (3) Shane Vendrell - The Shield vs (14) Johnny Drama - Entourage/Viking Quest (7) Marlo Stansfield - The Wire vs (10) Macgyver - Macgyver (2) Ryan O'Reily - Oz vs (15) Captain Benjamin Sisko, Star Trek: DS9

... So Shane Vendrel from the Shield it is. NOMINATIONS OVER, brackets will be up later today

With such little time left on the series I don't mind his charcter being done with. I just wish there were more episodes coming after this one

Omar Little - The Wire Malcolm Rynolds - Firefly Lucius Vorenus - Rome Marlo Stansfield - The Wire Antwan Mitchell - The Shield Vic Mackie - The Sheild Jack Bauer - 24 Roland "Wee-Bay" Brice - The Wire Brother Mouzone - The Wire Tony Sorpano-The Sopranos Andy Sipowicz-NYPD Blue Al Swearengen - Deadwood James T Kirk - Star Trek Titus Pullo - Rome Commander Worf - Star Trek TNG Big Dan Dority- Deadwood Sawyer- Lost Sam Beckett - Quantem Leap Sylar - Heroes John Locke - LOST Simon Adebisi-Oz Keith Mars - Veronica Mars Spike - Buffy/Angel T-Bag - Prison Break B.A. Baracus - A-Team Lincoln Burrows - Prison Break Richie Apreal - The Soprano's George Hearst- Deadwood Vern Schilinger- Oz Jethro Gibbs - NCIS Illyria - Angel Buffy Summers - Buffy Dr. Gregory House - House M.D. Jayne Cobb - Firefly Farik - Sleeper Cell Holtz - Angel Escobar- Nip/Tuck Bob Fucking Barker Joe Rogan Margos Dezerian - The Shield Rupert Giles-Buffy Al Bundy-Married with Children Duncan MacCloud-Highlander Dexte Morganr-Dexter Johnny Drama - Entourage/Viking Quest Admiral William Adama, BSG Cordell Walker - Walker Texas Ranger Robert McCall - The Equalizer The Incredible Hulk Macgyver - Macgyver Jack Malone - Without a Trace Ryan O'Reily - Oz Hank Scorpio - The Simpsons Faith - Buffy Nikita - La Femme Nikita Aaron Pierce - 24 The Beast - Angel Angelus - Buffy/Angel Michael Knight - Knight Rider Captain Benjamin Sisko, Star Trek: DS9 Ryan Atwood - The OC wink.gif Lem - The Shield Tommy Gavin - Rescue Me 63 on, the next reasonable name to make the list is on it. (Also replaced "Future Hiro"...being that we've only seen him once and he's yet to do anything) First round will be posted tomorrow