EVIL~! alkeiper

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Phils kick off a four game series at Chicago tonight. Off the bat, it'll be interesting to see the fans' reaction to Aaron Rowand. That out of the way, the first three games of this series are all 8pm games. That's unusual for the Cubbies.

USWA was bizzarro world in the mid-90s. Every face that Lawler was feuding with would come to Memphis and play heel to Lawler's face character. Even when Lawler invaded ECW, Tommy Dreamer would come to USWA and assume the heel role.

I loved that. Stossel is the biggest douche on TV, even bigger than Geraldo. Why did 20/20 even bother on reporting on weither pro wrestling is "real" or not? Just out of curiosity, I posted a promo of Schultz's in the youtube thread, where I claimed to never have heard of him. I assume "Stossel Gets Owned" has something to do with it? Yeah, Shultz has been persona non grata ever since that incident.

It's ridiculous to think Boston is finished. Their pitching looked bad...against the best offense in baseball. They're still only four back in the wild card.

No need to remind Phillies fans of this. Our stretch has lasted how many years now? 26 years. We're not even in the top ten in that category.

I picked up Out Of the Park Baseball a few weeks ago, a sim game that allows you to pick up any year in baseball history. One thing I've wanted to do is replay the Phillies' history from 1901 to the present. I don't know if I'm that nuts, but the idea pitiqued my curiosity enough to check out the Phils at the turn of the century. Reviewing that team revealed a few interesting things not just about the team, but about baseball in general at that time. A few terms I am using in the stat line. WARP stands for wins above replacement player, a Baseball Prospectus stat. PRAA is pitching runs above average, created I believe by statistician Pete Palmer. When reviewing the stats, keep in mind the context. Batters actually hit for a higher average in 1901, .267 compared to .262 last year. The league slugging average however was a meager .348. Teams scored MORE runs in 1901, chiefly because teams made three times as many errors as they do today. That is why Earned Run Averages are much lower. Catching C Ed McFarlane (.285/.326/.356, 4.9 WARP, 10 win shares) The Phils carried three catchers, Ed McFarlane, Klondike Douglass, and Fred Jacklitsch. All three were decent catchers at some point in their careers, although McFarlane was the best of the lot. These days, the rare team that carries three catchers does so in the event that they find themselves stuck without a catcher in a game. The Phils only changed catchers mid-game five times all season. Douglass was primarily a bat off the bench, and possibly a platoon partner for McFarlane. Catching was an extremely demanding position at that time, and catchers needed almost as much rest as pitchers. Infield 1B Hughie Jennings (.262/.342/.354, 2.4 WARP, 8 win shares) 2B Bill Hallman (.184/.236/.236, 2.8 WARP, 5 win shares) SS Monte Cross (.197/.281/.236, 3.3 WARP, 7 win shares) 3B Harry Wolverton (.309/.356/.369, 6.0 WARP, 15 win shares) Hughie Jennings is the big name, a Hall of Fame player coming to the end of his career. Jennings was a great shortstop for five years with the Baltimore Orioles in the 1890s, and that combined with his career as a manager of the Detroit Tigers put him in the Hall. Jennings was an average hitter at this point, but he adequately replaced Jimmy Slagle, who performed poorly over the first two months. Wolverton was the best hitting infielder of the bunch, back when third base was more of a defensive position. Cross and Hallman were absolutely pathetic at the stick. Cross had some plate discipline but no pop. Hallman could bunt for outs. Outfield LF Ed Delahanty (.354/.427/.528, 11.1 WARP, 33 win shares) CF Roy Thomas (.309/.437/.334, 8.0 WARP, 24 win shares) RF Elmer Flick (.333/.399/.500, 11.0 WARP, 30 win shares) Two Hall of Famers, and Delahanty's one of the all time greats. Philadelphia from 1891 all the way through the mid-teens sported an absolutely spectacular outfield. They started with Delahanty/Billy Hamilton/Sam Thompson. When Hamilton left they brought in Roy Thomas, when Thompson left they got Flick and then John Titus (and later Gavy Cravath), and when Delahanty left they found Sherry Magee. Delahanty was a great slugger. Flick was a fantastic contact hitter with speed. And Roy Thomas was one of the most unique players in baseball history. Roy Thomas has the biggest runs to RBI ratio in the history of the game. He did not hit for a great average (.290 career), had absolutely NO power (7 career home runs), and he wasn't a great basestealer (244 career steals was NOT a notable total at that time). What Thomas did was walk, and he walked a TON. Thomas led the National League in walks for seven out of eight seasons. Six times Thomas reached base the most times in the league, and twice he led the league in OBP. Purely on the strength of his OBP, he was one of the greatest leadoff hitters of all time. Bench IF Shad Barry (.246/.294/.298, 1.7 WARP, 4 win shares) OF Jimmy Slagle (.202/.277/.273, 1.5 WARP, 3 win shares) C Klondike Douglass (.324/.371/.370, 2.8 WARP, 7 win shares) C Fred Jacklitsch (.250/.328/.333, 1.8 WARP, 4 win shares) 2B Joe Dolan (.081/.128/.081, -0.3 WARP, 0 win shares) 2B Bert Conn (.192/.250/.231, 0.1 WARP, 0 win shares) OF George Browne (.222/.263/.278, 0 WARP, 0 win shares) It is important to note that teams did not construct rosters the way they do today. There were no organized minor leagues at the time, so teams simply carried promising prospects on their big league rosters. Bench players were those not good enough to play every day. Of this bunch, Dolan was cut shortly into the season, and Jimmy Slagle was released in late June. Slagle went on to become part of the Cubs' dynasty, although the Phils had a great left fielder of their own of that time in Sherry Magee. Shad Barry came in and played all over the field to spell the regulars. As I will note later, even pitchers were rarely pinch hit for. A pitcher would bat for himself even with his team down a run in the 8th inning. This all meant very few in-game substitutions. Rotation Red Donahue (20-13, 2.59 ERA, 27 PRAA, 24 win shares) Al Orth (20-12, 2.27 ERA, 31 PRAA, 29 win shares) Bill Duggleby (20-12, 2.88 ERA, 15 PRAA, 22 win shares) Doc White (14-13, 3.19 ERA, -7 PRAA, 16 win shares) Happy Townsend (9-6, 3.45 ERA, -3 PRAA, 8 win shares) Jack Dunn (0-1, 21.21 ERA, -10 PRAA, 0 win shares) Those top three I doubt you have heard of. Pitchers who straddled the line between the 19th and 20th centuries tend to be overlooked by most baseball fans. Donahue, famous for his curve, compiled a 164-175 career line, his below .500 career due mostly to an awful 17-60 campaign with the St. Louis Browns from 1895-97. Al Orth was an entirely average pitcher who had two great seasons in 1899 and 1901. Orth was the premier change-up pitcher of his time. Bill Duggleby as well experienced his one great year in 1901. Doc White was merely a 22 year old rookie in 1901, but went on to win 189 games and a World Series with the Chicago White Sox in 1906. Happy Townsend was also a rookie that season. After the season, Townsend jumped to the Washington Senators of the upstart American League. As far as dumb moves go, that might take the cake. Townsend went 23-69 over four seasons with the Senators. The trouble with evaluating pitchers of this era is that I suspect a great deal of pitching greatness was determined by a team's defense. In 1901, Tom Hughes of the Chicago Orphans (now Cubs) led the league with 6.57 strikeouts per nine innings. With the league as a whole striking out less than four batters a game, that was a lot of balls in play. Remember pitchers pitched a ton of innings and pitched quickly, and they did not have to bear down on pitchers like today. Jack Dunn pitched only two starts before moving on to the Baltimore Orioles of the American League. Finished as a quality pitcher, Dunn became a utility player and prolonged his career for a few seasons. After the Orioles moved to New York and became the Highlanders, the Orioles were revived as a minor league franchise in the International League. Dunn became the owner/operator of the club, and was the man who scouted Babe Ruth into organized baseball. Bullpen None. The Phils made 17 pitching changes the entire season, and when they needed a new pitcher they simply called on one of their other starters. The Phillies' starters completed 125 of their 140 starts, and only once did they use three pitchers in a game. Bill Duggleby appeared in six games in relief, Doc White four. Pitchers' Batting Al Orth (.281/.303/.352) Bill Duggleby (.165/.193/.200) Red Donahue (.097/.128/.115) Doc White (.276/.297/.357) Happy Townsend (.109/.123/.156) Jack Dunn (1 for 1, 1 BB) With hitting numbers like these, no wonder why these guys batted on their own. Al Orth and Doc White were just as capable as the pinch hitters. Manager Bill Shettsline. Shettsline had an innocuous career as manager, guiding the Phils from 1898-1902, finishing as high as second. He never managed elsewhere or played MLB himself. Outcome and Aftermath The Phils finished 83-57, good for second place in the league, 7.5 games behind the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Phils would use a great deal of their players in the ongoing war between the American and National Leagues. Monte Cross, Ed Delahanty, Red Donahue, Al Orth, Elmer Flick, Harry Wolverton and others jumped to the American League. The Phils fell to 7th place. Curiously, the American League did not raid the Pirates' roster. The Bucs won 103 games and finished 27.5 games ahead. The lack of a pennant race further boosted the American League, and the National League sued for peace, creating the Major Leagues as we know them.

Is there a point to that?

That's how it's been their entire careers.

Great deal for the Phils. Neither Baldwin or Barb are really on my radar at this point. Moyer's a low risk pick up. Plus, he's a local product.

A tourism ad aired recently where Ed Rendell touted the advantages of visiting Pittsburgh. This is a pretty shady, but smart move. It doesn't count as a politicial ad, yet it helps him appeal to residents on the other side of the state nonetheless.

It's defensible if you get cash back on the purchase. Buying a .50 item and getting cash back is cheaper than losing a $2 fee thanks to the ATM machine.

And I honestly think it'll end up 3-2 Yankees after the series. Remember that the five games in three days format forces both teams to use sub-optimal pitchers, so this isn't necessarily indicative of the season as a whole. If the Yankees win four of five though, I think they'll lock up the division.

A-Rod got overanxious and reached for a bad pitch. A 12 minute half-inning, good by their standards.

Hopefully they get this in under four hours. I just can't imagine going to a nine inning game that lasts that long. It can't possibly be any fun to sit through, especially in cramped Fenway Park.

Here's a fun fact. Alex Cora has been intentionally walked almost exactly as often as David Ortiz over his career.

I re-read the section on the draft often, because few books really take you behind the scenes of the process the way Moneyball did. The section on fielding stats though is entirely uninteresting.

Well, ideally you have a doubleheader where you play a game, take five, and play the second game. It's playing one game at 1pm and the second at 7pm that really drives me nuts.

Let me address this for the forums as a whole. Banishing the "n" word probably would not do any good, and clearly would already result in posters substituting new words and having a field day with it. So be it, as posters do not really want NHB heavily controlled anyway. That's fine. The board is supposed to be fun for the members. Outside of NHB however, some of the language needs to be stopped. If you were to have a conversation with a stranger about, let's say sports, would you carelessly drop the "n" word, or similar foul language? Of course not. That's what I would like to see kept under control, and I don't think that is asking much. As far as threats go, the admin did not tell us which poster had an issue and that's really none of our concern anyway. I'm not sure of the circumstances. Regardless, one topic was started with the phrase, "kill wp." That's clearly out of bounds. Calling someone out on an internet board are one thing. Physical threats, based in reality or not, are over the line. Like I said, these are relatively minor instances on an otherwise good messageboard.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/draftday...2&fext=.jsp That was four years ago, prior to the 2002 MLB Draft. He demanded a high draft bonus, the Red Sox took him in the seventh round, but he declined and went to Georgia Tech instead. Then as a sophomore, his control completely deserted him. Neighborgall was drafted though by the Arizona Diamondbacks in the third round of last year's draft. Baseball America referred to him as "the ultimate high-risk, high-reward player....He's one of the few pitchers in the game with two pitches (fastball and slider) that earn 70 or better raw grades on the 20-80 scouting scale." So how bad is his control? Check out his pitching line so far this season. 0-2, 21.09 ERA, 10.3 IP, 9 H, 1 HR, 38 BB, 12 Ks, 20 wild pitches This is a step back for Neighborgall, who only walked 45 batters in 23 innings last year.

Situational data doesn't go back that far. I can tell you that the New York Yankees left 20 men on base against Boston on Sept. 21, 1956. The Cardinals and Mariners share the record for a shutout, leaving 16 men on base in shutout defeats against the Phillies (1994) and Blue Jays (1998) respectively.

Why is that, Al? I think it's a cheap method to enhance gate receipts while inconveniencing the fans, players and staff. It ruins one of the more enjoyable events (a straight doubleheader), and the only people that benefit are the owners.

This Yankees/Red Sox series reminds me how much I despise day/night doubleheaders.

Plaschke really needs to give up fighting his imaginary enemies. When's the last time you heard a stats guy want to throw out his scouting department?