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He did have his secretary call Steve Austin to tell him to call Eric so Eric could tell him over the phone he was fired. Firing someone over the phone is bad enough, but Austin was only about a 30 minute drive from where the WCW office was. Eric also fired Ole Anderson over the phone the day after he was face-to-face with him.

Shane would wind up breaking down very quickly. He so wanted to be accepted by the locker room that he did insane stuff to try and get their respect. With that mentality, Shane would wind up falling apart.

Yoshinari Ogawa winning the GHC Heavyweight title. What really put the ! on it was the match only going 4:20.

The match you're talking about was his match at Halloween Havoc in 1995 against Mr JL. The fireball was down to Sheik going into business for himself, so if you think you flipped out over it, imagine what WCW's reaction was. And just to bring a forgotten fact about WCW to this post, Sabu found out he was fired by calling up the WCW hotline.

In 2002 he wanted Rock to turn gay. Just before he left the first time in 1999 he proposed an angle where Mankind and Rock would get married.

Vince Russo was hired back when Vince McMahon got desperate in June of 2002. Nobody saw it coming, not even Stephanie; she had no clue about it until it happened. Russo lasted all of one or two days because he was so out of touch with the product that his ideas were considered unworkable. Not that his being in touch would have his ideas any less unworkable. He was then demoted to being a ‘consultant’, which basically means watching the television and sending in his thoughts on the product. He didn’t like that, and wound up quitting/getting fired.

He started showing signs of aligning himself with Kane during the lead up to his Summerslam match with Austin, and turned full blown heel when he and Kane agreed to go after Austin at the behest of Vince McMahon to set up the main event of Breakdown.

HTQ re-writes the NWA in 1989 This NWA re-write begins in the summer of 1989, but the actual re-writing as far as television, Clashes and pay-per-views are concerned begins in January of 1990. The premise behind this re-write is that when Ric Flair was booking in 1989 he had designs on luring away a group of wrestlers from the WWF. This re-write takes the position that Flair was able to get those names to jump from the WWF to the NWA at various points in late 1989, that the NWA was also able to keep Ricky Steamboat, and that Tully Blanchard was able to jump back along with Arn Anderson. The list of names that Ric Flair was after from the WWF were: Ted DiBiase Curt Hennig Bret Hart The Rockers Roddy Piper Randy Savage Before getting into the main part of the re-write, I’ll explain when each name left the WWF and entered the NWA. Ted DiBiase: DiBiase would leave the WWF at the end of November after doing the job to Hogan at Survivor Series. After Terry Funk loses the I Quit match to Flair, he'd tease a retirement speech, dropping hints to it on commentary. At a taping at the end of December, the main event of the first hour of taping would be Terry Funk coming out for his apparent retirement announcement. Right as Funk gets to where he will announce he is going to retire, Ted Dibiase hits the ring and attacks Funk from behind, laying him out with a DDT on the floor. DiBiase would then grab the mic and tell Funk that he is a disgrace for not being able to beat Flair at the Clash, because in losing, Funk dishonored his father, and DiBiase looked up to Dory Funk Sr and he is going to make Funk pay for dishonoring Dory Sr. DiBiase would then let Ric Flair know that when he is done with Funk, he is going to come after Flair and do what Funk couldn't do, and that's take the World Title. Curt Hennig: Hennig would leave at the end of November, after doing the job to Jimmy Snuka at Survivor Series (The finish would be changed when Hennig gave notice) A series of vignette's would air during December's tv, with Hennig vowing to bring a sense of perfection to the NWA, and that he is the perfect wrestler, and he is going to prove it by coming after all the top names, whether it's Ric Flair, Sting, Lex Luger or Ricky Steamboat. Bret Hart: Bret would leave at the end of November. after doing the job to Savage at Survivor Series With Steamboat and Luger having a lengthy feud (see below), and Sting getting drawn into the mix, Luger says that he needs to find a tag team partner to take on Sting and Steamboat at Starrcade. They can tease who this partner is in the lead-up to Starrcade, and the week before on tv, they can heavily hint as to who it is in such a fashion that people will expect it to be Bret. Come Starrcade, and it's Sting and Steamboat versus Luger and his partner, he can bring out Bret Hart. The match goes about 15 minutes, with Sting and Luger fighting to the back, which will allow them to segue into a new feud, and the finish can be Bret using a roll-up plus a big handful of tights to get the pin Steamboat, and they can segue into their feud. The Rockers: After Summerslam, with Jannetty doing the submission job to Martel in the six-man The Midnight Express v Dynamic Dudes issue would be concluded at the end of September on tv, with Cornette and the MX doing their heel-turn on the Dudes, with Eaton pinning Ace after smashing him in the face with Cornette's racquet. MX and Corny would throw out an open challenge, claiming that while they're still chasing the tag titles, they are so good they need something else to do. In one promo, Lane can laugh and mention that one team is interested in their challenge, and he whispers the name to Cornette. Cornette laughs, and says that "they'd be fools to show up here". As the weeks go on, leading towards Clash of the Champions IX. Lane can bring the team up again, without mentioning any names, and Cornette will get slowly more irate and upset when talking about this unknown team. Finally, Cornette can snap, and challenge the mystery team to face the MX at the Clash. Fast forward to the Clash, and the MX and Corny are in the ring, and Cornette calls out the mystery team, telling the fans that, "these two goofs don't have what it takes to survive the Midnight Express and the rest of the NWA". Fast paced rock music hits, and The Rockers come bounding out, as the crowd go wild for them. With Cornette working his ass off at ringside, The MX and The Rockers (I'll call them that here, but they might have to change their names if this had really happened) go at it full blast for 20-minutes of **** action, which the crowd eats up. In the end, Cornette's attempt at interfering backfires, leaving Lane open to a flying bodypress from Michaels and getting pinned.. During November, Cornette and the MX cut some heated promo's, livid over what happened at the Clash, and really tear into The Rockers. The Rockers fire back that they made an impact in the NWA in the biggest way they could; by taking down The MX. Cornette and MX respond by saying The Rockers beat them once, but they haven't taken then down, and that wrestling is a marathon not a sprint. The Rockers play up on Cornette's choice of words, and challenge The MX to a 30-minute Marathon Match for Starrcade. Cornette and The MX accept the challenge, and the match is set for Starrcade. In the Marathon Match, MX and The Rockers tear it up for 30-minutes of great action. MX win the first fall very quickly, with Cornette's tennis racquet coming into play, and Eaton getting the pinfall on Jannetty. The Rockers battle back, and at the 13-minute mark Michaels pins Eaton to even the score at one-fall each. The MX pull a fast one, and thanks to some illegal double-teaming, they regain the lead very quickly, and the MX are now 2-1 up. Big comeback by The Rockers as the match hits the home stretch, but at the 29-minute mark Cornette hits Jannetty with his racquet, to seemingly give MX the win, but wait!. Cornette dropped his racquet in the ring, and the referee questions him on its use. Corny and MX argue with the referee on this, and Michaels switches places with Jannetty. Eaton turns around, and gets small packaged by Michaels, and the referee sees this, and makes the three-count at 29:57, evening the match at two-falls apiece. The bell rings, the match is over, and The Rockers pull out a draw when it looked like they had lost the match. Roddy Piper: At the end of November, after doing the job to Rude at Survivor Series. From the beginning of January, have them build up to the debut of Piper's Pit Clash of the Champions X. Piper would do a series of taped vignette's based around who his first guest would be. Randy Savage: At the end of the year, after doing the job to Hogan in the Cage match with Savage and Zeus against Hogan and Beefcake As for how I’d bring him in to the NWA, wait and see. Other booking for 1989: Lex Luger v Ricky Steamboat - Bret Hart - Sting After their match at the GAB, which saw Steamboat disqualified, interviews would be done between the two to set up a house show program. The first run would see regular matches, with Luger getting intentionally disqualified by hitting the referee, or deliberately counted out when he falls to the floor. Localized interviews would air to build up the second run, with Luger saying that Steamboat has to earn future shots at the US belt, and so Steamboat must win non-title matches. The second run would then be non-title matches, which Steamboat would win cleanly. This would build to a third run of matches, which would be no-disqualification matches, which Luger would win by piledriving Steamboat on a chair. After the matches, Luger would smash Steamboat with the chair, and go for another piledriver, before Sting would run in to make the save. One of these matches is shown on clip form on tv just after Clash IX, and Luger would say that this isn't fair, and that he is going to find a tag team partner to face Steamboat and Sting at Starrcade. They can tease who this partner is in the lead-up to Starrcade, and the week before on tv, they can heavily hint as to who it is in such a fashion that people will expect it to be Bret. Come Starrcade, and it's Sting and Steamboat versus Luger and his partner, he can bring out Bret Hart. Steamboat and Sting v Luger and Bret goes about 15-minutes. Luger and Sting will battle to the back, and this will allow them to segue into a Luger v Sting program. Meanwhile, back in the ring, Steamboat and Bret go at it in a great technical display, and Bret picks up the win with a roll-up and a big handful of tights. Ric Flair v Great Muta for Starrcade: After Muta attacks Flair at the end of Clash IX, Flair rips into Muta in a promo, and tells Muta that if he thinks he can attack Flair from behind and get away with it, then he is mistaken. Flair tells Muta to step up to the plate and see if he can do that kind of damage by attacking Flair face on, and Flair says he'll sweeten the deal, and put the NWA World Title on the line. The next week, Muta, via Gary Hart, accepts the challenge, and the match is set for the main event of Starrcade. During the hype, much is made of Muta being unbeaten in the NWA, and that Muta already has the TV Title and will look forward to adding the World Title to his collection. Various angles will take place to hype the match up, with the final tv before Starrcade seeing Muta 'mist' Flair with the black mist, and the announcers will go crazy putting it over, citing the black mist as the most dangerous mist, and that Flair is now the firm underdog going into Starrcade. Flair comes out for the match with his eyes red and bloodshot, selling the misting from Muta. The match is mostly Muta in control with brawling and his usual spots, with Flair fighting back with chops and punches, and Muta going for the eyes to regain control. It goes about 17-minutes and is really heated, with the fans getting into Flair's comebacks. The finish sees Flair go for the figure-four on Muta, Gary Hart try to interfere only to get decked by Flair, and when Muta goes for Flair, Flair hits a lowblow with his heel that the crowd pop for and he slips on the figure-four on Muta who fights for all he can, but finally submits as Gary Hart tries to pull himself up to help Muta. Starrcade '89: Brian Pillman v Mike Rotunda Tommy Rich v Eddie Gilbert Sid and Mean Mark v The Samoan Swat Team The Midnight Express v The Rockers in a 30-minute Marathon Match Steiners v Doom (Titles v Mask; what happened at Clash X in real life, but done here instead) Ricky Steamboat and Sting v Lex Luger and Mystery Partner Ric Flair v Great Muta for the NWA World Title It could have been done, yes, but probably not in this exact fashion or at this specifc time frame. There is some artistic license involved, I won't deny that, but I don't think it's done in such a manner that lacks credibility. It wouldn't be something that would turn me off if someone else was doing it, so I'm ok with starting it like this.

I think the cover will be the full size version of this picture:

One reason Jericho might go to TNA is for a new challenge. He's done everything he can do in WWE. Well, everything that politics has allowed him to do. He might see going to TNA as a new challenge.

The Jarretts are involved enough that, at the very least, Jeffy isn't leaving the main event scene. No doubt he'll demand to be made NWA champion again real soon, but, and this is where a leap of faith is needed, it might not happen. One can only hope.

Jericho would be fresh in TNA, and the fans would take to him as a superstar. He was an entertaining midcard comedy guy in WCW, but few there took him seriously, yet the moment he walked out on Raw the fans treated him like a superstar, and they accepted him mixing with top guys like The Rock. Smart booking in TNA would see him be immediately accepted in the top mix there. Whether Jericho would want that is another question entirely.

- WWE.com Are they doing the ECW 'Network' angle then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Pretty much, yes. It's so they have a storyline scapegoat for when Smackdown moves, and so they can vent their frustrations with UPN in storyline fashion.

That actually got more heat from the crowd than anything else WCW was doing at the time.

Unless Orton blows a knee or something.....

Your breath? Don't hold it.

I'm pretty sure that Cena v Orton was at one point planned to be the ulitmate inter-brand match at a WM a year or two down the line.

Sort of. The producers of the show told Vader to ham it up when the host would ask him if wrestling is fake, but I don't think the host was let on it. If he was, then his lawsuit was just an attempt at making a quick dinar.

I don't know because plans do change all the time. Remember Orton was the guy to face Hunter at Mania this year? Did he? No. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He was also meant to face Hunter at WM 20.

He also said there was no such thing as The Clique.

You mean he believed that bullshit?

I'm half-way through the show now, and it's a good show so far. You sound more at ease now that you've got a couple of shows under your belt. The semi-interactive nature of the show is a plus, and hopefully you can add guests in some fashion, because that would really pick things up.

It didn't help that they portrayed him as a pretty boy type that the women were all over. That type of persona is a huge turn-off for male fans, who are a big part of the wrestling demographic.

Hart didn't draw that well. Barely better than HBK. Benoit drew no better, no worse than practically anyone else in the past few years. Just so everyone is clear, is anyone going to dispute what I said in this post? Because if not, WrestlingFan4Ever's arguement is for nothing in this post. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are we talking just WWF/E or does WCW count? WWF: For his first WWF Title reign, Bret didn't set any records, but he didn't bomb either, and for that time period that was probably the best he could hope for. During his 1996-1997 run, Bret was undoubtedly one of the backbones of Raw, and feuds with Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels helped keep Raw ratings respectable against Nitro. For the most part, Raw did better when Bret was on top then when Shawn was, and this was when Nitro was building to Starrcade 97, which was WCW's biggest PPV of all time. PPV buy rates were none too shabby with Bret around, and he did better than Shawn. WCW: It's hard to really tell, because Bret was undercut from the beginning, but his match with Flair was the prime attraction for Souled Out, and did a far better buy rate than most expected, which backfired on Bret as it gave Hogan and company more reason to bury him As for Benoit, when he and Rock headlined Fully Loaded in 2000 it did a far better number than expected, around the 475,000 mark, and while The Rock deserves most of the credit for the number, to put it all down to Rock would be silly, because if nobody bought Benoit as a challenger, it wouldn't have done that much. When Benoit was World Champion, and during the month or so he was actually part of the main focus, Raw was pretty steady in the ratings, and it actually started to fall when it was built around Hunter and Shawn. His PPV numbers were decent too. Moreso when compared to what they are getting now.

Someone with ten minutes to kill? And that is one whiny little shit I've got on ignore.