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*gasp* The Horror!~ Rosey isn't just a hero. He's a Superhero.
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*raises hand* I was. I like HHH both as a character, in-ring, and he seems pretty funny as a person. I just think his time has come and he needs to get the fuck out of the ring because Raw has been in a time warp with him on top. Fuck, I'll take my enjoyment of professional wrestling over him being able to use his legs any day of the week, and wouldn't think twice about it. All you fucking soft-hearted motherfuckers who act indignant can suck my cock.
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The One and Only Angel Season 5 Thread
RavishingRickRudo replied to Steve J. Rogers's topic in Brandon Truitt
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I think we need an Orton-killer 02 up in here.
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Rosey is the best thing on RAW, dammit. HHH gone would mean more people elevated. More variety in the main event scene.
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Along with Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho, Rosey has become a patron saint of smarks. Let's just pray its more serious.
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Jin and Jack. What can I say, I'm biased towards names that start with J. Locke has been pissing me off for the past few episodes... ... which is exactly what he is supposed to be doing.
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Writer#1: Ok, for segment 1... Writer#2: How about a HHH promo? Writer#3: HHH is gone, he's injured. Writer#2: Oh... right. Writer#1: Ok, so for the first segment, I think... Writer#2: How about HHH comes out and just stands there. Writer#3: Again, he's injured. He won't be on the show. If he is unable to perform, then there is no use in spending time focusing on him since there is no in-ring payoff to the storyline. Writer#2: Gotcha. Writer#1: Ok, now that it has been established that HHH will not be used on the show... Writer#2: But what if he becomes, like, Raw GM. Writer#4: I like it. Writer#3: NO. Eric Bischoff is Raw GM. It was done last year with Angle as Smackdown GM and it failed miserably. Writer#2: But HHH is not Angle. He's much more well developed as a character and he already makes matches on the show. Writer#4: True, True. I like it. Writer#3: Listen, I think we can go a few RAWs without HHH. This will force us to focus on and develop new stars and then when HHH comes back we'll put those new stars over HHH to firmly establish this New Generation of wrestlers. We need to be thinking about the future, and HHH is not it. Writer#4: I don't like it. Writer#1: ... Can we get back to the first seg- Writer#2: Listen here, HHH is the only star on the roster right now. He has picked up the slack after the Rock, Stone Cold, Foley, and Lesnar LEFT US, he has earned his spot and so should every other wrestler on the roster. He's the only guy the fans buy in the main event slot and he needs to be on TV dammit! Writer#4: Yep. Yep. You tell em, honey. Err. I mean Writer#2. Writer#1: The first segment, PLEASE people! Writer#3: HHH has been on TV continuously for the past 6 years, there isn't much more to do with him. We already did the GM angle in 2000 with the McMahon-Helmsley Era, there is no need for him on TV. Writer#2: Look at Ric Flair, he's been around for 30 years and he still hasn't done it all, right Ric? Ric Flair: Damn right champ, I'm better than I ever was, Whoooo! I mean, damn right writer#2. Whooo! Writer#3: How did he get in here? *Writer#1 shrugs* Writer#2: Back to the point, HHH IS Raw, without him, Raw would be dead. Writer#4: YEAH! Ric Flair: WHOO! Writer#3: Then let RAW die, we have to take risks sometimes and playing it safe for the past 5 years has done nothing buy hurt the ratings. Writer#2: What about Katie Vick? That was risky. Writer#3: That was stupid. Writer#2: I was always against it, myself. But HHH is willing to do anything for this business. Writer#4: YEAH! You're the man, baby! Ric Flair: WHOOO! You're the champ! Writer#3: So is every other wrestler out there, they just never have the chance because HHH is too busy doing everything and gets to use all the best angles and have all the prime TV time and main events every PPV. Writer#2: HHH let Chris Benoit main event Summerslam last year! Writer#3: While the HHH/Eugene program overshadowed it, which by-the-way, is another example of how HHH has to suck the heat out of everything that gets hot on RAW because he's so damn insecure about losing his heat. Writer#2: YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH OR I'LL GIVE YOU A PEDIGREE! Writer#1: Hey! You can't do that! Writer#2: I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT! I'M THE BOSS AROUND HERE! *Vince McMahon rolls in* Vince: Uh, what? Writer#3: HHH just said he was the boss around here. He totally undermined your credibility as the head honcho Vince. Vince: I see... well... this truly is a greivous matter... .. Writer#3, in the WWE, we don't "tattle" on others. You're fired. Writer#4: DAMN RIGHT DADDY! Ric Flair: WHOOO! Writer#2: Game over for YOU Writer#2! Writer#1: Now, back to the first segment... Vince: Let's just have HHH come out and be, like... Writer#4: New GM of RAW, daddy? Vince: Yeah, sure, why not? Ric Flair: .... and Ric Flair is co-Gm? Vince: naturally. Ric Flair: WHOOOO!
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Yeah, Joe is old school too. We also discussed Royce Graice and Ken Shamrock. "Ken Shamrock 10 years ago wouldn't have fallen after that kick", and "Royce can't still be fighting nowadays" RRR: "He fought New Years, against some Sumo guy, he won too." The great thing about the convo about TUF is that Joe is in Advertising and Promotions, so he "got" right away what the purpose of the TV show was. He's really interested in seeing the PPV, which is a good sign from a casual fan POV.
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I told you, you have to make it look like an accident! Ah well... *Has alibi* *disassociates self from SG*
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So I'm in class yesterday and after I finish writing the exam Prof. Joe comes up and we start chattin about TUF finale. "What a brilliant marketing, it was one big advertisement for the PPV"
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That's why he needs to be taken out. *Loads gun* *Hands it to Someguy* Gitater.
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Of course they can. It's called putting him in the upper midcard for the next nine months. Nope. HHH on TV means that there's the possibility of him getting the title back at any time. The fans have been conditioned for that, because it has been the trend for 3 years. They won't accept any one in the top spot as long as HHH is there, especially a heel. There will always be the sense that whomever is holding the belt now, will soon drop it; that the only permanent thing on RAW is HHH. Therefore, if you take HHH off of television, that would allow the fans to actually invest themselves in the characters on top. Quite frankly, HHH has been death to everyone he has feuded with since Kurt Angle, besides the Undertaker. If you had HHH feuding with the guys that aren't absolutely to the top yet, and maybe putting one of them over, it would help out the Raw brand a lot. Nope. Besides the fact that HHH doesn't put people over, thus making this concept laughable, he does way too many meaningless jobs. Lost to Benjamin 3 times in a row, didn't do anything for the kid. He could lose to Edge and he still wouldn't "lose" anything. Because its happened so many times before. The only time HHH losing had meaning was back in 2000 was when TAKA almost beat him. Since then, they've tried to recreate that same thing with countless guys, and the result has been the same - someone gets close to defeating HHH one day, they are on HEAT the next. The only way someone can "go over" HHH is to eliminate him, because anything else is still being "under" HHH. Fans have been conditioned to accept him and only him in the spotlight, he could show up for 5 seconds and still managed to steal heat away from anyone and everyone, because he's been doing that forever. Say they spent a few months rebuilding Jericho, and then HHH put him over at Survivor Series, it would be huge as far as moving him up, and making him draw better as a challenger without actually giving him the title. Jericho is done. They've fucked around with him way too many times, especially with (and because of) HHH, for the fans to look at him as a top star. They've moved him up and down the card, going from the world to IC title, so many times. Why would the fans believe this time is any different, when it has happened every year for the past 5 years? Likewise, if we did have Orton or Edge main eventing multiple PPVs as a heel, it would make them seem more like real top guys if HHH was there wrestling on the undercard, than it would if they "only had the spot because HHH was injured". That's nice in theory, but doesn't work in real life. HHH would still be in the "upper mid card" (a spot which doesn't exist on RAW, but whatever), which means he'd still get a share of the spotlight. When HHH was injured in 2001, I don't think anyone said RVD was in the main event "because HHH was injured"; I don't think anyone said Booker T was in the main event "because HHH was injured". In fact, no one said anything about HHH, which is why him being gone would help RAW so much. HHH doesn't need any more attention, he's been getting it for far too long. Finally, there aren't that many top heels on Raw. There's a reason for that. It allows HHH to keep his spot. "I'd love to step down and let these young guys get a chance on top, but they're unproven, do you really want to take that risk Vince? With me out there, you're guaranteed some heat... especially if you feed over-faces Rosie and Hurricane." Hassan's slowly getting elevated, and Orton will get back from injury eventually, but for now, Edge and HHH are the only truly credible heels on Raw. They're needed both to fill out the card for the brand-exclusive PPVs, and to make sure that the upper level faces don't lose overness by getting left off the card. It is easy to make a new top heel, especially when someone else can start using HHH-exclusive heelish behavior, so it's not like it would take long to fill the void. The reason HHH is so over is the same reason that Angle and Undertaker are so over. People remember them being top guys back when the WWE was at its peak. They just have a natural crediblity from it. That, and HHH has been the main star on TV forever, gets exclusive things like The Cool Wrestlemania Entrance, has Ric Flair suck his cock, has women fawning over him, says he is going to do something and does it, ends up being right all the time, has the top faces praising him, etc. etc. etc. etc. In other words, gets things that no one else on the show would ever get. With him gone, other guys could get it. There's nothing wrong with HHH right now that nine months away from the title and a couple of character tweaks couldn't save. No number of character tweaks and months could erase 6 years of conditioning.
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That's because they invest more time in him as a heel than anyone. They've invested SIX FUCKING YEARS into him as a heel and they CONTINUE TO DO IT. Time to put that effort into someone else, and they can't do that with HHH still on TV.
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Vozelle has a nice booty, which was certainly accentuated with that lil number she was wearing tonight. Carrie did this really good gesture towards the camera when she was moving up to the stage that was hot and cool at the same time. Oh, and the word "rock" is being used WAAAAAAAAAAAY too liberally on this show. Rock Idol~!
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Rob is fantastic. "If anyone asks why, point to me"
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Nah, they're setting up contenders for Batista which is a helluvalot more than what they did with Benoit. As is, they're doing the exact same thing with Batista as they did with Benoit last year, except this time Batista doesn't have to share time with HBK. HHH needs to go away for a long time for anyone on top to be successful. HHH on the show is a detriment because as long as he is on the show people are always going to keep their guard up and assume that the title is going back to him in due time, which means they won't invest their time into a new guy on top, because in a few months he'll just be gone.
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We need to have, like, PICTURE BATTEL between Vozelle Solomon and Carrie Underwood. YOWZAS. I love demin!~
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Dammit, I was wanting a 2.5! Got greedy. Realistically, the 1.9 is a fantastic number, and to have the most amount of men ages 18-35 watching on a Saturday night IN ALL OF TELEVISION is probably something that has Spike smiling, considering that's their target demo. The WWE never came close to drawing a 1.9 on any of their shows on Saturday night, and the UFC didn't have the RAW lead-in, which really say something for the show being able to stand-alone on its own. It could have potentially done worse if it was a case of WWE fans sticking around after RAW, but it wasn't. It was UFC fans watching a UFC show. That's a good sign. Considering that the largest total audience for a live UFC show before this was under 200,000 and this show did TEN TIMES that, disappointment or not, that's still fucking impressive. If they retain even a small % of that audience for their PPV's, that's going to really have a big effect on their PPV revenues. Think about this: if they retain just 5% of the audience - 1 in 20 people who watched TUF will get the PPV - that's 100,000 extra buys, which would put them well over 200,000. If they do 250,000 for the next show or higher, then you can call the 1.9 a huge success. The real test is whether the PPV will get the buys.
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I hear it happened in Haiti, and the voodoo priests put a curse on his broken arm and it tried to attack him, but he used his good arm to not only knock out his opponent, but to also knock out his broken, possessed arm, as-well-as the voodoo priest.
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In some parts of the world today, people still live in huts. The whole point is there are the "haves" and the "have nots".
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Who are you to deny it?!
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I thought that was Kevin Nash for a sec.
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I think Lita -their top woman babyface- and Edge -the guy they've been grooming for the main event, put pressure on management to get rid of Hardy. They could have easily said they didn't feel easy with him around and that he would hurt the locker room if he were to be ever in it. Then they could have reinforced Matt's inactivity due to injury in the past year+ and made the case for him to go.
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Watched it again for the 3rd time. Still insane. I had this big ass smile on my face when Dana awards Stephan the contract.