RavishingRickRudo

The thing is the WWE shouldn't play it up big and they shouldn't ignore it either. Point it out and put a question in the fans mind - actually get them to do something they haven't done in a long, long time... say "What if..." What if there wasn't a pin? What if his shoulders weren't down? What if he hadn't been training the whole day? What if he had another shot at Kurt Angle in the ring? That's all they really need to do - plant that notion in the fans' mind and let it grow and see where it goes.

So Angle is not bought as legitimate even though he's a main eventer and always played up as a huge threat. Stop being an idiot. Angle is not bought as legitimate because they made him look like a goof for the first 4 years of his career. Angle is not a consistent main eventer and is not always played up as a huge threat. Stop lying and completely ignoring what I say and the context inwhich I say it in. You are totally, utterly, completely wrong here and my point still stands. Go away, you add nothing here besides flame bait. Just like you have to go out of the circle to get a break in amateur wrestling. Then wouldn't the equivalent be going outside the ring to get a break? Don't answer that, I don't want to confuse you. The answer is "Yes". Rope Breaks are Professional Wrestling specific. It doesn't happen in boxing, it doesn't happen in MMA, it doesn't happen in any in-ring grappling event that I have seen. Infact, grabbing the rope is illegal in these circumstances. Still here? Go away.

Wes with his TAEKWONDO! ".. Um.." Wes is a LAYDAYS Man! "You know this whole curse thing has been WIDELY misinterpreted"! "For it burns!" "That is my coat, right?" CLUELESS ANGEL! COATLESS ANGEL! "Were you in Virginia" !~!~!!!! Boreanez is ROCKING. "Don't I say that?" "WHOOOOA" This is a top 10 scene of all time motherfuckers. "Who says squired" "There's no Wyndam Pryce Agency"

"Oooh god, Angels gonna sing?" "Oh THANK GOD!" "Hey look, I'm Angel!" YEAH! The dude who played BABE RUTH in the SANDLOT! "I'm Angel.. Wough" "But I shant be cooperative" Angel is getting PSYCHOANALYSED! PWNED! YEAH! The dude who was in UNDERSEIGE 2: DARK TERRITORY! Damn that Casey Ryback! "Dear.. GOD.. that's Nummy!" Consolodated Curses... that's awesome. Another CSI/Angel crossover~! "AAAAAH" *Wes at his reflection* "I really hate to think where Wesley might be right now" Wes grabbing onto the cross is insane. "Hot, Hot, Hot... COLD!" Oh god this is hilarious. Damn that Ramone!!!!! Turncoat!

GUISE WILL BE GUISE "I know how to handle myself when things get rough... mmmmugh" How come you can see Angels reflection in the marble in this elevator? HUH?! "See! Wah? That's the plan? Walkin real quick was the plan?" "Maybe I am a lil angry" And they just act like stabbing the security guy in the toe is nothin. Fanturstic.

That was lame, because they rarely ever play up the religious aspects in a serious way. But it is something that is interesting to consider.

Pfft. I could write a better Zombie movie than that. And a Canadian one at that! Title: STEM CELL Starring: Don McKellar, Sandra Oh, Callum Keith Rennie, David Cronenberg, Sarah Polley, Genevieve Bujold, Dave Foley, Colm Feore, and Leslie Neilson. Characters: Don McKellar ~#*IS*#~ Pete Sanchez Sandra Oh ~#*IS*#~ Rose Dipasquale. CKR ~#*IS*#~ DUPONT David Cronenberg ~#*IS*#~ Dr. Elliot Smalls Colm Feore ~#*IS*#~ Dr. Stan Wright Sarah Polley ~#*IS*#~ Beth Genevieve Bujold ~#*IS*#~ Mme Lilian LaLace Dave Foley ~#*IS*#~ The Mayor Leslie Nielson ~#*IS*#~ Dr. Van Roi Jeremy Piven ~#*IS*#~ Unsuspecting Victim #1 PLOT: Stem Cell is what happens when science goes too far. When life is taken from the human body and is manipulated by those who want to play GOD. When that hollow shell, that piece of clay, spreads into it's host, trying to find that life it lost. It is the year 2020 and biotechnology and medicine have come a long way. Breakthroughs in Stem Cell research have cured Cancer, AIDS, Paralysis, and even the common cold. After being saved from the pains of Male Pattern Baldness, Unsuspecting Victim #1 starts to feel a little dizzy and passes out on a sidewalk. Darkness. Pete Sanchez awakens to a new day and a new woman and a new world. All the patients who have had Stem Cells injected into them have been taken over by the Stem Cells and now seek plasma, the life force, to quench its unquenchable thrist for blood. Sanchez's neighbour DUPONT is a bounty hunter who roams the neighbourhood searching to kill these Zombies - who have super stem cell enhanced power - and also recruit new freedom fighters. Rose is the woman Sanchez woke up next to, her entire family had Stem Cell enhancement done, she is now alone and seeks the companionship Sanchez believes he can't offer her. Dr. Smalls and Wright are the two scientists who made the breakthroughs in Stem Cell technology. Two men who hide a insidious secret and whose motives were not just for the betterment of mankind. Dr Van Roi is a local physician who has been against Stem Cell research from the very beginning and prefers a more holistic solution to lifes ailments. He was part of The Mayors medical commitee before getting framed for corruption and ethic fraud by Smalls and Wright. The Mayor is the Mayor of Toronto. Beth is the first Stem Cell patient who went crazy because she believes she is a genetically altered super soldier and tried to take over the city on her own. She has some relationship with DUPONT, but it has yet to be discovered. Mme LaLace runs a whorehouse and finds herself in a sticky situation when all of the clients and whores turn against her. All of these personalities meet as they find themselves to be the last people in Toronto, and perhaps Canada, fighting for their freedom.

"Angel you can't just sniff a person and..." "You had sex last night with a bleached blonde" "Good lord, how'd you" "Everybody Wang-chfun to night... " Holy SHIT, Angel singing this with such conviction as if to force everyone to like it is sooooo fucking fucking fuck. "I'm very sorry" "This is way off your path, sweetie" - that is sweet, cause it could be Lorne sensing JASMINES influence and telling Angel to stay away from Darla cause it will lead to SEX and CONNOR. The husband is named Stephen... Connors name in the Kortah was Stephen... HUH>! BOSOMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOWZA!~ It's great to see Darla (especially in that dress... YOWZA) be afraid of Angelus when he proposes turning Dru. "But you never made me happy" "You don't learn that kind of darkness" "There's going to be a lot of trouble... and I say bring it on" ~!~!~!!!

"Personal Bubble... PERSONAL BUBBLE!" "Is it something I did" "Right between the clowns and the big talking hot dog" "Who loves guilt like you love guilt" "God, I could eat his eye balls" 1481 Hyperion Avenue LA CA 90026 213-555-0162 What's on Angels business card. The scene with Darla in the hotel lounge is fucking awesome. I was totally worked at the time and the walking into the sun along with Wes trying to stop him was great.

"This is why I rarely go to church" *tumbleweed* ".. I thought it was funny" "BLUH!" - Angel waking up. This is so far, AWESOME. And Wes is slowly becoming less Wes-ie. Look at that tie. Jesus Christ, very loosely tied. "He's just off his game" "Since when is it a game" GUNN~!

Alright! This is MY on-going coverage of the ANGEL season 2: disc 2!~ Episode 5: Dear Boy "247" - Angel is awesome. He has, like, more insecurities than, than *puts finger up as if to point out something or stop someone*, than Woody Allen. I like how they have consistently had Angel "catch" Cordy when she gets a vision. This is particularly relevant since it is how Angel "returned" to the group after he fired them.

They don't actually get a million dollars. This is like an extended version of the Steiner/HHH feud. *shudders* It's also like they took a part of the Old Tough Enough that everyone talked about - the wrestlers coming out and blabbering about all the struggles of being a pro wrestler and punking out the kids - and put it on EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Classic WWE.

The guy grabbed on to the rope though - it wasn't because he was out of the ring. And if IIRC the ref counted to 3. It was a WWE wrestling match, in the guise of being a "shoot", whether it was or not is up for debate.

Then why were there rope breaks?

Didn't Kurt say "wrestling match", aren't submissions allowed in WWE wrestling matches? I mean, they had rope breaks...

A sweet angle would be to have Frank Shamrock - who Puder trained under - corner him and then bring in Ken Shamrock for the nefarious anklelock vs. anklelock storyline.

Again Rudo, your arrogance has made you wrong. Kurt Angle. Gold medalist. There. Yes, Kurt Angle. The guy who rode around on a scooter. The guy who wore a tiny cowboy hat. The guy who handed out condoms and drinks milk. Nothing says "This guy can kick your ass" like that. People don't buy Angle as a legit fighter because he's been made to look like a dork almost immediately into his career. They parodied the Gold Medal rather than treating it seriously. Any legitimacy his amateur career has given him has long since passed away. There.

I am desperately waiting for that follow-up episode. It would be sweet if he showed up in NY or Miami... even though I don't watch either.

There needs to be a thread on this. Every episode I've seen this season rocked. Even if the last one was a total rip-off of the Paul Milander storyline of Season 1-3 and the "Serial Killer has an elaborate plan to kill himself and mess with Grissom". Fuck it, it was still great. MAD FOLD-IN~!

But anyways, it seems as if they are already grooming him to be one of the end ones, or possibly the winner. I mean, the kid stands up to Big Show, then holds his own against Kurt Angle. And now, already he's the most popular, even beating out the Miz. And evidently he has some kind of fight skill, so if he wins, the end result of this TE may not be so horrible. I mean, he can probaly wrestle. And he's over. The two things most really care about seemingly...so yea. I think it's because the fans see him as someone who is "legit". "He could kick your ass" - they believe him. Is there any feeling in wrestling right now like that? The guy never fought in the UFC and they believe in him just on the basis of him saying "I'm an ultimate fighter, I can break your arms and legs", and then you have him saying it to the Big Show. Wrestling is lacking legitimacy and this guy has the market cornered on it. Also, RRR, I've seen betetr guys than Sentoryu tapped from a kimura in the same (and sometimes more dominant) position, and considering Angle's arm was already getting put around his back, it's not far off to think Puder could've hurt him if left to. I think Angle could have gotten out of it. He was stronger than Puder and has been hammerlocked before. He could have pulled his leg out and shifted his weight and gotten out of it.

Puder was a collegic wrestler, and he didn't really have Angle in anything serious - though I was still lovin it. The only person I have seen tapped out from that position was Sentoryu earlier this year against Giant Silva. For reference, both those guys are horrible fighters and should never be in the ring. If you want to see a sweet counter for that move, 2 weeks ago in the UFC Matt Hughes was in the same position and rolled over and secured a straight armbar with a second left on the clock. I can't believe how the crowd was sold on this kid so quickly.

Is this a bannable offense? I noticed a dramatic change in storylines around Survivor Series 2000-time, I didn't even read on the internet at the time that Steph was in charge and it was obvious some dumbass was.

Rose???

And then the Island Sheik, Sayid, puts Jack in the camel clutch while Sawyer and Kate parade around.

YOU WANNA BET ON IT PIN??! I, uh, will change my members title for 3 WEEKS! if Jack beats Sawyer.