RavishingRickRudo

The whole point of "if someone were to come and look at the board...." is rendered rather useless given that one has to sign up first in order to lurk. Secondly, the WWE doesn't pay attention to the internet because we don't sugar coat things; and in terms of accepting their faults, they're akin to a 5 year old with a cold. *Shudders at the thought of a board full of Coffeys*

They should turn him into a Crunk-lovin superhero called the "Right Thurricane". In other words, this is a retarded idea. Hurricane has a ton of potential as a face, they never even tried to introduce a "serious" villain to oppose him.

I just made 2 delicious sandwiches. Turkey. Toasted Whole Wheat/Grain Bread. A slice of large tomato on each. Lettuce. Mustard and Mayo. The key here is to put margarine on the bread quickly after it's been toasted to create what I call a "flavour barrier". Then, put the Mayo on and then put on the turkey slices. I prefer a dryer, almost flakey, turkey as it juxtaposes well with the lettuce and tomato. With the aforementioned lettuce, I prefer it straight peeled off the head rather than chopped, and still wet with water. Not too wet, because it ruins the bread, but dampish. That goes on next. Then the tomato. Really, this is the star of the show. This thing took up the entire bread slice and worked really well. The lettuce protects the juice from escaping, which is key. I prefer 1-cm thin slices, which is pretty thick, but it's not bigger than a slice of bread. I then coat the face of the tomato with pepper, put mustard on the other slice of bread, and put em together. I prefer diagonal cuts rather than vertical because it gives you a better handle on the sandwich. It was an awesome sandwich.

Look in the graveyard and dig infront of the man holding an axe. .... I've been playing way too much Fable.

I am desperately trying to find a Batista "in" to complete our "Meh-volution". "Meh-volution is a mystery Passionate with Apathy"

"Oh, and Rando Orton, I will-uh, kill the Legend Killer-uh"

How many times do I have to say that if we're being anyone, that *I'm* the HHH here. I AM RRR! It works so perfectly. Now-uh, you will-uh, uh-uh, put me over-uh, Jim Loss-uh. "Bah Gawd Triple R is the best in the business." Now you Ric Slayer-uh "WOOO! Greatest poster ever Triple R! I may be a 16 time World Champ, but you're the champ! WOOO!"

They call him MISTER Benjamin.

It's a mess. Seriously, they have Big Show ending up pretty tiny when his greatest asset is size, Batista and Benjamin are too small to even have a point in there, Benoit is seemingly putting on a submission but we aren't seeing pain on the opponents face (or any opponent), JBL is more hat than man, and none of the characters are looking towards the same thing. I looks so random, there is no theme. With the Aforementioned Royal Rumble posters, they'd all be walking towards you, ready to fight. The Survivor Series, at least what it used to be, was about team work. A collective focus. Here it looks like they're having a hard time defining anything at all. And Taker takes up WAAAY too much of the picture and its a rather throwaway "look". Rey has no purpose at all there and doesn't match up with any of the other wrestlers. He's just "flying" without purpose. A nice metaphor for the cruiserweight division. And there are no women, because there is no actual use for them in the WWE, it seems. And Flair is woo-ing, which is all he does these days. Maybe they should have had him taking a backdrop

She wanted to be worshipped. I recall her asking "only" for a temple to be built for her.

If Jack Doan died I think Downhome would find some way to be devastated. "The way he hit the mat and said "2!"... the man was one-of-a-kind". I don't feel the need to say anything when someone dies, other people do, whatever. I don't need to read what they say either.

"I like L4W. We've known each other for years. I'd invite him to King of Waffles III if he'd let me" - Frank Rudo I see the "joking" atmosphere of TSM to be unique. At least, the goofy shit TCR, NYU, and Co. do as unique. I see it as a throwback to the GH and Joe days where there would be the Jericho Curse, Baby Dean Malenko, and T-Rex Arms Chris Benoit. I miss those days, because I really enjoyed them. I don't find anything like that anywhere else but here. Each board has it's own style of humour, and this one matches mine the best. It's not what I come here for, but its a nice bonus. I never saw CRZs board as anything special, I like TOA and DVDVR, and I haven't been to WCMB in ages because, well, they're "style" isn't very compatible with mine. Arguing the word "Workrate", to me, is retarded and they are way too set in their ways to the point where I can't possibly learn anything over there. I have an account at DVDVR and I lurk a lot at TOA; I don't want TSM to be like theirs because I already go there, I don't need another one. The great thing about this board, in my opinion, is that it is very easy to make it your own. If you want the insightful discussion, you can make it. This is how that forum works - every news piece is posted and if you want to discuss it you can. I don't see that anywhere else. I love the amount of possible discussion you can get from here, you just have to open it up. No. I think it's the nature of the beast. TSM has a lot more topics than most places, which I prefer, so its going to get watered down. It, however, isn't necessarily anti-intellectual. It isn't an environment where thoughtful posts are shot down or shunned. It's just a matter of whether or not you want to make them. Probably because he doesn't know TSM exists, and that his general rule is not to post on message boards. He has said in the past he shouldn't be posting at WC either. I imagine because the owners of the site has been affiliated with wrestling in some capacity over the years and has housed names such as Lou Thesz and Jack Briscoe that he sees it fit to post there. I know Dames is pretty popular 'round here and is a nice guy and such, but I don't think his name carries over very well beyond that. Probably because we don't care about Bryan Alvarez and the boys at TOA do. Hey, I love TOA and hold some of the opinions over there in the highest regard about wrestling, and when it does have good wrestling discussion it's the best on the net. The key thing there, for me, is "when", which isn't as often as I'd like. I imagine JDW's affilation with Meltzer has something to do with it, and I believe they (the group) have been in contact (with Bryan) over the years regarding various things (I recall one of them saying they've mailed him on different occasions). But TSM can't be TOA. Not without an insane amount of bannings and A LOT less threads, and even then it wouldn't be the same. Loss, you of all people dropping what wrestlers think in this thread? With the mentioning of TOA and SpiderTwist, I'm amazed you think that would carry value. Again, the connections of those who run the site outweigh the content. I've been a lil suspect of that, not that I care enough to investigate further. I think there's just as much fluff over at DVDVR as there is here. It's just different kinds of fluff - plus their wrestling folder has ALL wrestling in it, not just WWE. Yes, the people at both boards "know what they're talking about", but how often do they "talk"? That's an issue. The main draw of ST is the monthly dumbass thread, which I enjoy, but that's as far as regular discussion goes. The second best thing is the review thread, and that keeps getting shorter and shorter as the dumbass thread gets longer and longer. I have never heard that nor do I even care about it. Message Board Reputation isn't exactly what's on my mind when I post. Have _you_ ever wondered why what shows up on WWE TV is awfully similar to some of the posts on this board? (which is something that I like to point out often... THAT, is me trying to get over ) Loss, you're probably my favourite mod and tend to be open to suggestion more than anyone else. I _like_ that you want to better the forum, but I don't like your reasons. Aspiring to be like other boards is ridiculous, because we should aspire to be different. To be unique. I "fight" because I want to keep the parts of this place that I like, which make it unique. You shouldn't look at that as me getting in your way of making this place better, because we both want that. The fact that we're having these discussions, ultimately, is a good thing. It's a shame that we're always the ones having it, and I honestly don't know why everyone else doesn't care. I know it's just a messageboard, but if you add it up, its a part of your life, whether that makes you lame or not, and everyone should at least have an opinion on where it is and where it should be.

Who is the guy above big show and below Eddie?

Harkens back to the Royal Rumble posters of the early 90's. In other words, it fucking rocks. Benoit, Big Show, and Flair are the 3 Tenors?

Statement: You could totally see the club owner cheating on Catherine from miles away. Err... Smackdown is bad.

Spin the Bottle* (4.06) Hush (4.10) - Spin the Bottle was a really good episode, but I don't think it was a truly GREAT episode. It doesn't come to my mind when I think of either show, so Hush almost gets it by default here. I voted Spin... a lot, but its at the point to where I can't bring it any further than it is. Hush, OTOH, I have voted against in the past, but I'd rather have it jobbing in the Semis than SPB. I don't know if I can say anything that hasn't been said before about Hush. It really did mark the transition, IMO, in terms of how Whedon designed his episodes. It was quirky, funny, dramatic, thrilling, and had perspective you don't normally find in gimmick episodes. Joss really matured as a writer at this point and mastered his craft. The scene with Giles and the overhead is still hilarious as is Buffys "jerk/stake" motion. Not Fade Away* (5.22) Not Fade Away is simply superior and better structured especially considering all it had to "do". I loved what they did with Illyria and Wesley, which I thought was more of a powerful ending to a relationship than Buffy/Angel. It had more of an epic feel with the group splitting up, and it had much more of a satisfying cliffhanger, given it was the end of the show and how fitting it was. Becoming, Part 2 (2.22) You’re Welcome* (5.12) The Gift (5.22) No contest, really. Much like Spin... You're Welcome is a good top 10 episode of Angel, but it's not one of the greatest of all time. The Gift is in the top 3, most definitely. I am actually debating which self-sacrifice was better handled, though. Buffy had a nice big "Lookitme, I'm giving my life for the world", while Cordys was like "Psst. I'm giving my life to set Angel back on the right path", I like Cordys way more, but I found Buffys to be a lot more emotional. Especially with the reactions of the gang and the ending "She saved the World. Alot.". The Gift hit EVERYTHING right and everyone played their roles to perfection. I want a Gift/Not Fade finals so I can explain what made the Gift so great in the next round, because I don't want to waste it all here, but I think that episode was the peak of everyones character. Cept for maybe Spikes, whose was in Intervention. Passion (2.17) Salvage* (4.13) I don't think Salvage should be here, I think Hole In the World, or Habeas Corpses should be here instead. But I think if Passion gets through here, it might make it all the way to the finals and sneak in and win this thing. And I don't want that to happen.

Rebuttal: Tying my shoes is more entertaining than RAW. Smackdown, on the otherhand, can't afford to suck like RAW can. I have to tune into RAW or I will lose my spot and my interest will totally be gone from wrestling and I'd never watch again. Even if it is for a half-an-hour, like it often is, I still have to keep up with some of the storylines (Benoits, mainly). Smackdown is so stale and uninteresting (disinteresting?) and has not a single character that I enjoy and want to follow that it really has to make up for it in-ring and in the storylines and it simply doesn't. With RAW there is a sense that anything can happen, as cliched and lame as it sounds, and it tends to be something bad that happens, but at least it gives me something to talk about. Smackdown, given its taped nature, doesn't have that at all.

As a point of reference, this is TheSmartMarks. I can't stand this "we have to be like other boards" mentality.

Rebuttal: You still watch Smackdown? Statement: Sheldon Benjamin would be better off with a shooters gimmick than being Sting 04.

I understand if other posters were concerned over the "joke" that the joke should be stopped, but how much protest are we talking about exactly? Coffey doesn't count because, well, he's Coffey; He's the resident Old-Man-On-The-Porch of TSM. Not to give out any names, but I'd like to hear what the negative responses constituted of, because I imagine those who enjoyed it probably outnumber those who don't. With something like this I think it's a black and white issue - people either like it or they don't. So in other words, you either allow it or you don't. Because what you want is a "... Joke Thread", and that totally kills the joke. Again, if there is an overwhelming concern and it's ruining a thread, then fine, stop it. But if there's just a few people complaining and it's generally harmless, I don't really see the reason to get uptight about it. The Sensible Randy Orton stuff wasn't about how great we are, if that were the case, then every parody ever made is about how great one is. If our intent were to "get over", then you'd see stuff like this every week. But you don't. It happens maybe 4-6 times a year. Tomko/Fertig, Cena Christmas Carol, WWE Unscripted, the Controversial Trish Stratus 50 year old Black Woman, Steve Urkel Raw GM, and Sensible Randy Orton. That's all I can recall in the last year and none of them were planned, none of them had a plan, and I can't recall any of them hurting any discussion. I think Coffey didn't enjoy any of them, but again, it's Coffey. Closing down the WWE Forum during Raw is absolutely silly. When RAW starts to suck for me (which tends to be every RAW), I usually go to this board instead. I can't imagine why you'd want to shut down the forum when its one of the biggest "draws" on here. But then again, this conversation *is* taking place in Staff Only, where most of the staff doesn't even go in the WWE Folder anymore and a lot of them look down on it, so I guess that explains it.

Who the fuck voted against it? Mole? Was it Mole? Ban him. You have the power. Let's have a MoleyBan.

. People making jokes in the folder is fine, but when people actually are trying to discuss the topic at hand and others are chiming in trying to put themselves over, it is a detriment to the folder. I'm all for humor in the WWE folder, actually, but don't do it in a thread where people are trying to talk about something else. Here's the thing: The majority (see, All) "jokes" that we do are from the stupid things people (be in wrestlers or posters) say. Generally (I think this is true in most of the cases) these threads already suck before we can even "ruin" them. I don't think you will find that happening in between any good discussions. In the case inwhich Czech was suspended, it was in a RAW thread. Certainly not ruining anything there. I would love to hear the definition for "put themselves over", because I could say that really long post you made about the heel/face situatoin was trying to put yourself over. This is us having fun. It is a creative outlet. I don't wake up every morning with the intent of "getting over", and I don't think Czech does either, or NY Untouchable. I don't log on the board with the intent of doing something silly. It just happens.

Has Not Fade Away had a single vote against it?

Shane McMahon is the Prince Charles of the WWE Royal Family.

I played the Demo version and was insanely disappointed being that I was expecting the first good wrestling game for Xbox and I got a fighting game instead.