RavishingRickRudo

The best possible scenario is that Benoit retires, fucks Woman, makes babies, trains those babies to wrestle, and in 20-25 years we'll have a whole new crop of fantastic wrestlers to watch and hopefully -by then- HHH and Steph will be divorced and spawned no children together, and the McMahon empire will be long dead and the wrestling industry can start over again and created a healthy environment for those lil Benoits to flurish. ... I can wait 20-25 years.

Word's cannot describe the hollow feeling I have in my stomach.

*breaks down and cries*

I thought that was obvious after their RAW match where it was a double pin.

That was probably the doll/wooden puppet/dummy in Buffy. Spoiler Below What happens with Wes and Fred What happens with Gunn What happens with Angel and Nipples. *edited for x-tra hilariousness.

Joss said that if it were up to him, he'd pick Japan (which is funny, cause it was up to him - but he said he loved Japanese culture and the language was a lil bit easier ), but China has 1 billion + and is being poised as being the next big thing on the planet earth (lots of corporations are putting headquarters in China - or so I hear). 1 Billion + consumers ready to sell to... like kids in a candy store are big business.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like a particularly good plot, but the sub-plots are fucking amazing.

Did any one DL the convention MP3??? I thought there was a lot of great stuff in that and it adds to the backstory. The Earth was going to shit, the 2 superpowers -China and US- worked together to find a way to terriform other planets and therefore an alliance was made and the cultures merged (over the span of 500 years). The Alliance wanted to bring all the planets together so that everyone can share in the good life (sounds a bit like capitalism - no coincidence then that Blue Sun is a major player.) As for my concerns with River, Joss said that she'd grow to carry on a normal conversation, but would never be normal like Fred.

I'm not saying she "is" out of WR&H, I'm just saying she *shouldn't* be there. Did you read the Puppet-episode Spoilers from Buffy.nu??

Have some pride, folks Nah, looking at the Inferno card, I'd say that UFC 46 is the better bet RRR: Shameless.

Um... was it ever a problem to have a big bad outside Team Angel?? Eve can still manipulate them as she's been working with them for, what, months now? And I'm sure they had a contingency plan just-in-case she got found out. Of course, if they go the "We'll keep her around so we can find out her evil plans and then stop her" route, it'll be just stupid. STUPID!! RRR: Thinking that Firefly wouldn't do something like this.

Or they could have someone really easy for Benoit to throw out, just to imply that Benoit could win the rumble by facing 1 guy at a time and it might not be "that" hard to believe.

That's actually a really good idea. I, personally, think they are teasing Benoit with the #1 spot and ignoring Cena *just* so that Cena's win will be a lot more 'unpredictable' - bait-and-switch, if you will. This would enforce that, plus since Benoit and Cena have been buddy-buddy, them working together makes sense and them working against each other means more (it also ties back to their #1 contenders match).

I prefer "asshat".

The Benoit segment was so fucking awesome - it's a shame they were discussing the crossface rather than his career (great clips though, fucking teases - I WANT BENOIT DVD!). I liked how they kayfabed it, but it didn't sound like they were talking down to us.

I won't give him feedback simply because he'd probably put it in his next column and point and say "You guys gotta calm down, stop taking this so seriously, it's just wrestling."

Serves ya right for giving me a compliment.

Of course, the same people who make that arguement are the ones who wanted Booker T. to go over Triple H at Wrestlemania XIX.... Yes, and that had everything to do with the belt and nothing to do with the racist storyline it was based around.

So rather than actually debate his points it just gets written off as "anti-smark ranting" that holds no water? Hmmmmm..... Now honestly, I think any one of us could tear this piece of shit apart because it doesn't make a single point we haven't all heard before - which is the whole thing; we've heard this all before. We've argued this stuff before, and much better than this putz right here. Hell, to even put in the time and effort in "debating" his points would be giving it worth - and it's, quite frankly, worthless. Chris Benoit has been involved with major angles for years at a time now with only one month of consistantly bad losses in the entire span. Oh come on now - his big "return match" after his 01 injury was against the Dudleys, in the opening match, in a tables match, and he lost... After NWO he slid down the card hard and fast, to where he was lost in the shuffle at WM, off the backlash card completely, and in a 6 man tag in the jerker of Judgement day where he barely got in the ring. There was the heavyweight title tournament, which he lost to John Cena in (after Under had owned him in the ring), and the worthless US title tournament where they didn't even show the brakets to the quarter-finals. In between all of this he's lost to the Bashams and Sean O'haire and had a "feud" with Rhyno which didn't amount to anything and they couldn't even give Rhyno a reason for turning until, like, 3 months after he did it and it was in a throw-away comment by Michael Cole and it was the exact same one Eddie used (which the fans NEVER buy because Benoit is not in the spotlight often enough to cast a fucking shadow!) All this after, what I think would be called, a rather "successful" title match w. Kurt Angle at the Rumble. The only, somewhat concrete, fued he had was with ALBERT. Instability can kill some guys' careers. Then, the one really good feud Benoit was in in 03 (vs. Brock) was killed off because BOB HOLLY took precident. So please don't try to paint the picture that they've treated Benoit very well. Your point about Smarks taking W/L serious is true, but you've missed why they do. Smarks didn't bitch over Benoit losing to Angle at RR. Smarks didn't bitch about Benoit losing to Lesnar on Smackdown. I don't recall Smarks bitching about Benoit losing to Austin (though we probably did about the finish). So "Benoit losing = bad" doesn't work. Losing to Sean O'haire, losing to the Bashams, losing to John Cena - yes, we bitch about this. We take wins and losses seriously because they have *meaning*. Benoit losing to Cena after Cena was made to look like a punk by Taker makes Benoit look bad. Benoit losing to Angle after a terrific effort that no one should be ashamed of and having came so close, makes Benoit look good - or at least, doesn't make him look bad. That's how it is. Benoit on RAW makes Benoit look bad. I don't want Benoit to look bad; I want people to see him as I see him, as what he deserves to be seen as. The only real difference between being a smart mark and a mark is simply the basis for which we determine who to cheer and who to boo. I cheer Hogan. Hogan is king politik. A lot of people here cheered HHH before he returned in 02; he was still politicking in 01 and 00. I didn't cheer him at that time because he just didn't appeal to me - I liked him during a period in 1999 though. I think the whole backstage factor just adds to the hhhate. So in the end, the real line between being a 'mark' and a 'smart mark' is about as thin as thin could be. It's just the line that connects your computer to the internet. Disagreed completely. I was a "smark" in 1992. I was "on-line" in 2000. What made me a "smark" in 1992? I WANTED TO LEARN MORE! I cherished knowing little things like Hulk Hogan's real name. I used to call up the Herald Line (a local halifax newspaper's phone line) to find out all the "inside" wrestling news; and I eagerly waited for that news. That's all that a smark is; someone who wants to know more than what they show us - which is what the internet provides. The difference between a smark and a "casual fan" is that the casual fan doesn't have that desire (notice how I don't say "mark"). You still want certain people to win. You still want certain people to lose. But in the end, its a phoney win. It's a phoney loss. The fact that you care who wins more than the quality of a match only goes to show just how 'smart' everyone is. After Jericho had that "phoney loss" to HHH (both times, Mania and FullyLoaded) he was severely dropped down the card. This lead to bad angles and bad matches. When Benoit is put to the Main Event of the card (Rock, Austin, Angle, Brock), there are good matches. Wins and Losses often dictate card placement - if someone gets a lot of victories, the WWE is positioning them for a better place on the card; if they get a lot of losses, they will be on Velocity or Heat pretty soon. With Benoit moving to RAW, and him facing HHH, that means that after he loses to HHH he will hurt... bad. Benoit on RAW means JR and the King announcing his matches - that's bad. Benoit on RAW means matches with test, steiner, mark henry, batista, flair, booker, christian - these, btw, are not good matches and are definitely not matches that Benoit needs. Win OR lose, it's still bad for benoit (*remembers Benoit on RAW before* *shudders*) the fact that he is married to Stephanie McMahon. Honestly though, should those things really matter to us? When you see Jericho fetching Steph lotion and walking their dog and -as champion- playing second fiddle to the "real" storyline... YES. It's a fake belt (they all are). Leonardo Dicaprio was a "fake person" in Titanic - I recall a lot of people crying when he died in the film. Andy Dufresne was a "fake person" who escaped a "fake prison" in The Shawshank Redepention - it still didn't stop me from being joyous, and it sure as hell didn't wipe the smile from my face when he and Red met up again on the white sand beach in Mexico. The Superbowl is next week - it's a "real title" but why should it have any meaning to any one other than those players? Yet, people still watch the game, people still cheer when their team wins or are down when their team loses. Sure, they are "fake belts" but they have meaning, people still want them. Some titles have more meaning than others.

Holy Shit. I think I just found a subliminal message written in the first paragraph that tells us the same thing - a warning, if you will - that the whole article does. It's very subtle, but it's there and it's very true. ... the guy is pretty hard on himself, but as they say, the truth shall set you free. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I never read 411 columns (and, quite frankly, couldn't get through this one).

LOL, it's a new game! All the shows worse than Firefly but are still on TV:

In honour of American Idol starting up this past week... "That was terrible, I mean just awful" "If you've got a big mouth and you're controversial, you're going to get attention."

It's a real shame they didn't give Firefly time. I mean, jesus fucking christ, I see so many bad shows on TV that don't come close to touching a tenth of what Firefly had, and they still get picked up.

With Photoshop, a seemingly unlimited amount of MMA Highlight reels and Taker pictures, along with a server to post them... I am unstoppable. You all better hope I don't go forward and do The General series w/ Pictures, cause if so, this forum will have gotten a lot more Guerrero-ie-istic-ally... I don't know where I'm going with this, but I do know this, The General could make his photoshopic debut here soon!

Pride wants a WWE rep in it's Grand Prix Tournament this year, Angle or Lesnar being the preferable choices. While nobody has numbers, Pride is willing to pay big money because they know it would take that to get the stars of that level to participate in shoot matches. But there is no way that will happen. Send TAKER! SEND TAKER!!!!!! Who's yard is it now? (FEDORS'!~)