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Wow is this thread still going? Seriously...let it die.

Sure I do. Some of those bands started out before 1981 but were still major by 1981. I don't think any of them had fallen off the map by then. Later bands don't really belong, as the list is obviously geared towards hard rock/metal and late 70s to late 80s was when most of the important developments there happened.

The list makes sense overall. (Givent he source) Since I know a lot about the history of metal I will help educate. 25. Motorhead One of the first and most successful punk/metal bands. 24. Rage Against The Machine I'm assuming they are on here as rap/metal guys. 23. Emperor Black metal band on the leading edge of the whole "gloomy scandanavian music" genre. I assume they are on here representing doom/black metal. 22. Marilyn Manson Should not be on this list. Period. Musically not important in the least. MM is just Alice Cooper for the next generation. 21. Def Leppard Super-successful British import. Part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. Essentially the glam-rock equivalent of Iron Maiden. Probably on the list becaue Kerrang is a British publication. 20. Slipknot No idea why these guys are on the list. 19. Soundgarden Ditto. Good band but don't deserve to be here. 18. Black Flag Sort of a prog-punk band. "Hardcore." 17. Napalm Death Grindcore originators. Expect songs 2 minutes or less. This is basically the opposite end of the metal spectrum with progressive metal on the other. The members of Napalm Death have also been in a lot of other pretty important bands. 16. Fugazi I don't know shit about Fugazi. 15. Nine Inch Nails Ministry or KMFDM (or Fear Factory, or a bunch of others) would have been much better choices. NIN is on the list representing industrial metal. 14. Blink 182 Person who added them was drunk. 13. Judas Priest Generally considered THE first metal band along with Deep Purple. 12. Korn Bleah 11. Bon Jovi Bleah 10. Nirvana We all know why this is here. 9. Pantera Trash metal and "groove metal" pioneers. (Had to look that one up) 8. Faith No More Generally considered the originators of rap metal. 7. Slayer Speed metal/thrash metal guys. 6. Ozzy Osbourne Let's just pretend this says "Black Sabbath." 5. Green Day Does not belong on this list, period. 4. AC/DC The ultimate cock-rock band. 3. Metallica Duh 2. Guns'n'Roses Managed to "keep it real" when metal was going to hair hell with a mix of metal, blues, rock, etc. One of the few rock bands in their time that wasn't a hair band, super-cheesy, fantasy obsessed or anything like that. Basically the definition of rock. 1. Iron Maiden Member of the NWOBHM. Melodic, complicated metal. Long songs, dueling guitars, harmonizing, interesting tempos, etc. Basically the opposite of cock-rock. Musician's metal. These guys became huge with basically no radio and no TV play. They are the clear choice for #1 and anyone who doesn't understand that doesn't understand the genre. Iron Maiden IS metal, period. Some thoughts on the list: No Black Sabbath and no Deep Purple? Those are huge omissions. DP along with Judas Priest are often considered the first metal band. And Ozzy instead of Sabbath on the list is a joke. Not only should Sabbath be on the list, they should be top 5. NIN as industrial/electronica choice is odd. Ministry or KMFDM or a bunch of other bands would be far better choices. Probably Ministry. (But the KMFDM fan in me says KMFDM) Power Metal and Progressive Metal probably deserve representatives - say Helloween and Queensryche/Dream Theater. An important thing in this list is drawing lines from bands that originate in other bands. For example if you start at Deep Purple you can draw a line to Iron Maiden then to Queensryche and Dream Theater and then on to Stravarious, Symphony X and a bunch of other bands. Basically all the more technical, clean-sounding progressive-ish metal starts with Purple and Maiden. Maiden was more metal while Purple was a mix of metal, rock, southern blues, etc. If you start at Black Sabbath you can draw a line to all doom metal and most down-tuned bands including things like Alice in Chains and grunge in general. Anything that sounds sludgy basically started with Sabbath. If you start with Helloween you can draw lines to all sorts of power-metal including Gamma Ray, Blind Gaurdian, Hammerfall and a bunch of other Euro bands, as well as bands like Savatage to some degree. A list like this should be heavily biased towards older bands, as it is easier to gauge their importance and the metal/hard rock genre has been around for a while now.

Rainbow Deep Purple Iron Maiden Black Sabbath Queensryche Dio Dream Theater Metallica Cathedral (just for the hell of it, they have 1.5 good albums but that 1.5 is that good)

Image Comics was basically an unmitigated disaster altogether.

Image Comics was basically an unmitigated disaster altogether.

My 10 year was recent, I skipped it. Seemed pointless. I keep in touch with the people I want to. My prom was ok, I went in a group with some people and one of them were a couple that had just broken up the day before. So they were really bitchy and the guy kept hanging out with me and my date instead of his own. In general go with the right people and it will be fun.

So what happens if one of the WWE guys lose their title at ONS? How do they even get it back? Does that show (Raw or Smackdown) just not have a title anymore?

God this is boring. I thought ECW was supposed to be less sports entertainment and more wrestling?

I love how the scifi ECW promos don't even say it's wrestling, you would think it was a show about ancient vampires or something.

FX is pretty damn awesome, what they have done is amazing given that a few years ago they showed only 3rd rate movies and Fear Factor. They were a joke network and now that are one of the best on TV.

A prequel to a remake - how inspired.

Yeah this is good, 10 more episodes was not enough time to resolve everything that has taken place.

Ha ha that cartoon rocked. I totally would have watched that.

The only reason RAW is superior is that Smackdown has had tons of issues with wrestlers dying, being injured, etc, and the WWE hypes RAW and denigrates Smackdown. RAW is like the "event movie" you want to see even though you know it will suck, just because it's been hyped so much it becomes a phenomenon. Pretty much agree with your list.

Victoria is easily the best female wrestler, by far. She's the only one you can really even call a wrestler. The analogy to Venis is horrible. Venis is average. For a woman Victoria is excellent. Trish and Mickey are simply bad compared to Vicky. If they looked like Victoria most people would be booing them every night.

HR3 would have been 10 times better without Terry Farrel in the lead, her acting was atrocious and singlehandedly ruined many scenes, including the pivotal one.

WTF?

Ugh this is so boring...

The problem with Gracie/Hughes is that Gracie is old and the rules have changed to move away from what worked for him. Gracie in his prime vs. Hughes along with the rules Gracie fought under might be interesting. This was not. Gracie has been average for a long time, he's just a jobber in the MMA world now. It was basically the same with Shamrock vs. Franklin. Shamrock in his prime might have been neat but Shamrock 5-10 years past his prime? Not so much.

All 3 Totally Spies. But especially the redhead. Seriously this thread is messed up.

LOL. This is hilarious. Yeah, I agree about the spelling, she sounds like an idiot. Who cares? This is some girl you've never met and sounds dumb as a rock. Is she hot? IIRC you've seen one very pixely picture, which means she probably isn't. So why do you care at all?

Sticky Fingaz is Kern Little from The Shield. I will definitely give this a chance. I'm a sucker for this type of show and the previews don't look too bad.

"You are so Beautiful" isn't exactly the most difficult sound around either. None of the judge's choices were anything special in that regard. A smoker with asthma could do an ok You are so Beautiful.

I've never watched this show before. The Springsteen song was awful. It was just bland and his voice was really straining when he was trying to sing/shout. Over the Rainbow was way overperformed. The Idol contestants are in love with vocal trills that add nothing to the performance but show off their chops. (I just said I've never seen this before but I've seen clips) Her voice was good though. It just had too many dramatic pauses, off tempo pacing etc. "You are so Beautiful" was better than Springsteen but he couldn't really sustain the notes, he sort of trailed off weakly a lot of the time. The third dude...yeah I don't even remember what he sang. He was that good. Brother got soul or something...I remember his intonation was way off on the song Paula chose for him. Randy said something to that effect ("you were sharp") .