Failed Bridge

Vince Young has stated he's staying for his senior year. For some reason Mack Brown is able to convince players to stay rather than enter early. Look at Roy Williams, Cedric Benson, and now seniors Rodrique Wright and Jonathan Scott. I don't know how he does it, but he does.

Ok, we've established all this.

I don't really see either coming out to be honest. Brady Quinn has just begun to tap into his potential thanks to Charlie Weiss and Omar Jacobs most likely stays another year too as there are alot of questions about his ability to make reads and recognise different defenses. Next year though with Quinn, Young, Jacobs, and Vick all poised to come out...its gonna be a good draft for teams in need of a QB.

Jets fans are always unhappy with the team's pick on draft day (with the exception of Vilma) and Jets management never seems to care. With teams like The Ravens, Dolphins, Cardinals, and possibly the Raiders all looking for a young QB there IS.NO.GUARENTEE. you get a Volek or Rivers. I'm not too impressed with DeAngelo Williams either. He has a chance at being a good back but right now he's under-sized and can't break tackles well. His open field speed is incredible, but in the NFL holes close real fast and breaking through the secondary isn't as easy. I have him rated #3 out of the backs with what he's doing right now, but I have a feeling the sleeper back in this draft is going to be Mike Bell of Arizona.

He definately has a good burst but he doesn't have that open field speed to just break away. He's definately a bruiser though and if Packers fans have anything to be excited about this season its him.

You probably didn't think they'd draft a kicker in the second round either, but it happened. Philip Rivers will cost you a king's ransom, Drew Brees isn't going anywhere now, Billy Volek might end up a FA and could go to the Jets but its no lock, Patrick Ramsey isn't the answer. This draft goes by team need and by what the team has at the moment, not what they could possibly attain in the future via trades and/or Free Agency (said that at the top but you obviously have a tough time with comprehension). You can clamor for Reggie Bush all you want but if he's already taken then its going to be tough shit for you.

Neither back is really somebody you want shouldering the load though. Najeh is a good change of pace back and Tony Fisher provides depth but that's about it. I'll tell you who they do have that I've found impressive and that's Sam Gado. He could be the Packers' version of Bettis/Duckett/Lorenzo Neal in years to come.

You don't seem to understand that this year's draft is going to be crap as far as QBs go after Leinart. By the way, I've watched about 4 Jets games this season and the reason for Martin's dreadful year is the fact he has to shoulder the whole load. Teams are stacking up against the run because there's no passing threat. It also doesn't help that your pro-bowl Center is done for the year. Next year's draft is going to be pretty good for QBs though as you'll most likely see Marcus Vick and Omar Jacobs join Vince Young in the talent pool. Its going to be the year of the Black QB when it comes to the 07 draft.

You'll get more value out of Vernon Davis than just taking some back. Curtis Martin has at least another year left in him and next year's draft will be much better when it comes to RB (Adrian Peterson, LenDale White who I think stays at USC to boost his draft value to first round, and Mike Hart) Maybe the Jets will be there to grab him, but right now they aren't in the top 5 in draft order so that doesn't matter. They'd have to be in the top 3 to get him anyways. Not to mention if the Jets are high enough in the order to get Bush then Leinart is most likely still available and they wouldn't pass up on him. Green Bay and Houston aren't going to look at the QB position and I think they're going to be in the top 3.

another TE? The Jets haven't drafted a good one in recent memory. Also, if you want to draft a QB then you're looking at drafting Charlie Whitehurst of Clemson. If you want the Jets to take a 3rd/4th round pick with their number one pick then I won't complain. There isn't a RB worth a first round pick that fits the Jets system.

White Sox already bought out the remainder of Frank's contract. Unless he's willing to go back for the league minimum I doubt he rejoins the White Sox.

and I updated picks 15-20

Berry is good but they can still use another DE and you don't turn down a player with the potential of being a Julius Peppers type player. Also, as I previously said, this draft is heavy in defensive line help. You can get a good DT in the second round but you won't get a DE of this caliber that late. Marcedes Lewis is my second TE off the board. He's got alot more TDs but look at the competition his team has faced. Vernon Davis has held his own against some very good defenses and I feel he has alot more upside. Both TEs are going to be very productive though and you can't go wrong with either one.

I don't believe it. subliminal_animal was far too smart to be Banders

He is a little on the small size at 5'11" and 205lbs but he's somebody the Vikings have been scouting all season. I think he's the 3rd best back in the nation though behind Reggie Bush and DeAngelo Williams of Memphis. He seems to be the Vikings' guy though and if he's available for them to grab then he's as good as there. He has big play capability and really only needs to work on his recieving skills.

He most likely thinks I hate him too when I just don't care one way or the other. He tends to over-dramatise things alot though and it usually ends up with a pathetically funny quote being born.

It might be a bit of a reach but... A.) I went by the team's needs and they are lacking big time at TE. They could have drafted Heath Miller last year but for some reason they shipped off a first rounder for Doug Jolley and a few later round picks. B.) This is the Jets. Making a reach pick is never unusual for them.

barron, you and I are suppose to be bff now! We made a pact, don't go back on it now

Vince young is a Randall Cunningham/Daunte Culpepper mold of QB. I'm sure the Ravens would take a chance on him as a first round pick if he had declared. He'll certainly be a first round talent next year barring injuries.

I just pointed out why people were giving him shit. Its cause he wasn't citing sources. Slappy must have ran to his Green Republican refuge though and complained so the other idiots would come start stuff since he's too much of a bitch to ever really stand up for himself. I'll leave it at that since I don't want to derail this thread more than it has to be.

This draft is going to be loaded with talent on the D-Line. Green Bay could still get a first round talent D-Lineman with their second round pick.

11.) Detroit - Eric Winston - OT, Miami (Fla): Lions fans expect defense and get more offense. Winston is a tough kid that can provide Harrington time to actually finish his reads 12.) Miami - Andrew Whitworth - OT, LSU: Nick Saban goes back to his old stomping grounds and gets a premiere Tackle. Whitworth will help open up more holes for Ronnie Brown while protecting whomever their QB may be 13.) Minn - Laurence Maroney - RB, Minn: Whizzinators, Injuries, and Sex Boat Trips, oh my! The Vikings are in serious need of a fresh start in the backfield and some good PR. Bringing in the Golden Gopher RB will do just that. 14.) Buffalo - Gabe Watson - DT, Michigan: Its no surprise the run defense in Buffalo has suffered with Pat Williams leaving for Minn. Watson provides them another hog that can clog the middle and shut down the running game. 15.) Philli - Derek Hagan - WR, Arizona St: No T.O.? No worries. Philli struck gold with Reggie Brown in the early second round of the 05 draft and in the first round of the 06 draft they take the best reciever in college football right now. Primed to get over 1,000 recieving yards and around 10 touchdowns he's just what the Eagles ordered. 16.) St. Louis - Marcedes Lewis - TE, UCLA: The greatest show on Turf has been playing in Indi the past few seasons, but this pick brings St. Louis one step closer to bringing it back to the Edward Jones Dome. Marc Bulger will be like a kid in a candy store looking at the weapons he has after this pick. 17.) New England - Kelly Jennings - CB, Miami(Fla): Most people have Michael Huff of Texas slated here, and while he is vercatile they have enough of those types in the secondary. The Patriots have lacked a big play corner since Ty Law went down with a foot injury last season and then left in the off-season. Jennings is one of the faster CBs in this draft and also has good size. He's also not afraid to hit somebody which is something Belichick looks for in a DB. 18.) San Diego - LaRon Landry - S, LSU: San Diego front 7 are starting to look mighty impressive but you can still throw the ball easy on them. They're weak at the safety position and having a safety with the talent of Landry who also spent two of his seasons being coached by Nick Saban will certainly help San Diego out here. 19.) Dallas - Michael Huff - S, Texas: The Cowboys rebuilt defense is raising some eyebrows but Roy Williams needs a partner to man Center Field. Huff comes in knowing the kind of pressure that goes with playing Texas football and gives Parcells somebody with an eye for the ball. 20.) Denver (from Wash) - Darnell Bing - S, USC: John Lynch isn't getting any younger and Champ Bailey isn't going to man the secondary on his own. Three safeties in a row off the board is unlikely, but crazier things have happened (Like Maurice Clarrett being drafted on the first day by the Broncos in the previous draft). Denver would probably look WR but there are no real WRs worth it at this very spot. 21.) Tampa Bay - Jonathan Scott - OT, Texas: The Tampa Bay O-Line is just dreadful. That alone makes Jonathan Scott an obvious choice. The All-American Tackle from Texas was one of the main reasons Cedric Benson was as succesful as he was and why Vince Young doesn't find himself getting hit on the blindside often, if at all. 22.) Kansas City - Chad Greenway - OLB, Iowa: The Chiefs big problem is still their defense. Drafting Derrik Johnson and signing Kendrell Bell helped that out but with Greenway they solidify their LB corp. The only real concern with him is how that reconstructed knee will hold up, but he's definately a playmaker 23.) Jacksonville - Will Blackmon - CB, Boston Coll: They have nothing for corners other than Rashean Mathis, this solves that problem. The Jaguars secondary is the only questionable part of their defense but if Darius comes back healthy and they add Blackmon then Jack Del Rio has finally built a defense very similiar to the one he helped coach in Baltimore. 24.) Chicago - Santonio Holmes Jr - WR, Ohio St: Chicago will most likely be looking at one of the big OTs in this draft, but at this spot there isn't one worth taking. They do stay on the offensive side of the ball with their pick though taking a WR that can compliment Muhsin Mohamed. 25.) Pittsburgh - Max Jean-Gilles - OG, Georgia: The Steelers aren't a team with a ton of needs, and while they'd probably like to upgrade at the corner position I don't think there are any left worth a first rounder. They go best player available for what they do, and that's run the ball. Jean-Gilles gets plugged in on the right side of the line and makes the offense even more dangerous with the run. 26.) Carolina 27.) NY Giants 28.) Denver 29.) Seattle 30.) Atlanta 31.) Cinci 32.) Indi I'll get to the rest later.

Slapnuts only eats babyfood

Tom Benson is the worst owner in all of sports. I'd love to see him out of football, but even if he did sell the Saints he would probably just take that money and try to become the owner of the L.A. franchise when they do get a team in the next couple seasons. I have my fingers crossed though that Bradshaw will be able to pull this off. Wouldn't be surprised to see him bring in Chuck Knoll in some capacity either if he were to become part owner.