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Also agreed.

Well to be fair, Luke/Han/Leia and the old guard do get more and more back into it... Luke plays a VERY pivotal role in the final NJO battle. They also tend to come to the forefront much more in the Swarm War, the next series of books after the Vong war.

Oh dear

Interesting, I didn't know that. I've done one season, perhaps I'll try another.

I've got just about all the major ROH stars in SDvR2k6. Only problem is, I've played the rest of the game so little that I have no experience points, and therefore my whole ROH roster is weak as fuck.

The New Jedi Order series is fantastic, if a bit difficult to get through at times. Tons of emotional ups and downs, tons of Star Wars philosophy changed up and rearranged, even a few unexpected deaths. I have every book in the series (what is it, like 20 of them) and I'd definitely recommend all of them. But NOT until you've read the Thrawn Trilogy, and the two-book sequel to it.

Agreed. DDP was a great worker and a helluv a lot of fun to watch. Discuss.

Tough call. 25 now. I started watching when I was 9 or 10, with the Warrior/Rick Rude cage match for the title at Summerslam in 1990 (my grandmother had satellite--badass.) Prior to that Id had been to one WWE show in North Bay when I was maybe 6 or 7, had an isle seat, and the ONLY part I remember was touching Bret Hart's arm when he walked by. I began following it from 1990 or so, the Hart Foundation were by far my favourite. After Bret went singles, my interest kind of waned (oddly enough) and I stopped following it consistently. Though I did tune in for it now and then. It was WCW that actually brought me back into the fold, not because of the nWo but because of Jericho, Malenko, Benoit and Geurrero. I would later become a big fan of DDP when started in-ring work too. I got caught up in the Monday Night Wars and ended up frequently flicking back and forth--the Bret Hart/Austin fued got be back into WWE, so I really watched both--WCW for the solid mid-card and CW (Malenko/Jericho is, to this day, my all time favourite feud--NWA rulebook!) and WWE for their main event material. I watched WCW right up until the end, as bad as it was--I really don't know why. I really do believe this was the best generation to be a wrestling fan. The previous generation to us (I guess) got Hulkamania (ugh) in the WWF and the original 4 Horsemen (yay), but we got Austin/Rock/Foley, the rise and fall of ECW, the rise and fall of WCW, and the current rise of ROH and TNA. We've been able to see essentially every style of wrestling, from entertainment (WWE and some of WCW), Japanese Hard style (ROH, some WCW CW), Luchadore (ECW, WCW), Hardcore (ECW) and technical stuff (some of all of them.) And think about this--we may have missed some awesome stuff in the 80s--but our generation also has the Internet, so we can watch all that old stuff anyway.

Well, I made the Ultimate Wrestling Theme Song Collection on PWT, so I have all of these. Many of these guys used more than one, but I tended to go with what I felt were the best ones... Well, I made the Ultimate Wrestling Theme Song Collection on PWT, so I have all of these. Many of these guys used more than one, but I tended to go with what I felt were the best ones... Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko - Perfect Strangers (Deep Purple) ... Benoit also used Back in the Saddle (Aerosmith) for singles. Eddy Guerrero - Animal (Pearl Jam) Chris Jericho - Electrichead Part 2 - The Ecstasy (White Zombie) Sid Vicious - no idea, and apparently no one on the net knows The Steiner Brothers - Welcome to the Jungle (Guns n Roses) Rey Mysterio JR - Sad But True (Metallica) Juventued Guerrera - Wherever I May Roam (Metallica) Masato Tanaka - Dangan (his own theme from Japan)

I guess this is a pretty straight-forward question. I've always been a Terry Funk fan, ever since he pile-drove Ric Flair through a table in a tuxedo. But I seem to recall his teary-eyed promo on the Forever Hardcore DVD being all about WWE sucking, and WWE ruining ECW, and how they shouldn't have brought it back (paraphrasing.) Yet here he is ready for another feud with Mick Foley in the new ECW. The feud itself has actually sparked my interest (hard for WWE to do that at all anymore) and I love the promo Foley cut last night... But isn't it a little contrived considering Funk's attitude just last year?

TOLD YA! Simon Diamond's music ya, another great example. My understanding with Enter Sandman was, they tried it once or twice when the ECW album came out, and the live crowds HATED it, so they went back to Metallica... I seem to recall reading this in a book or something...

*shudder*

What he said. On the one hand, this makes the ECW "stars" look like total losers. On the other hand, most of those guys are. My god, the love guys like Sandman and Sabu get is inconceivable to me. What do they bring to the table except contrived spots and business-exposing nonsense? Ooh, they can bleed. Wonderful. Don't even get me started on Justin Tolerable and Jobbin' Stevie Richards. Feh. That said, I'm still excited to have another hour of wrestling on TV. If anything, it will be a springboard for all the up-and-comers I keep hearing about but never see. Fair enough. But honestly, it sorta *IS* what we imagined the invasion should be, with the "top" ECW stars (Sandman, Dreamer) doing the invasion. But at the same time, the ones we REALLY need doing the invasion aren't contracted: Mike Awesome, Raven, Rhino, and maybe the Dudleys. And I know Awesome is injured but shit, why haven't they signed him yet? And I *STILL* hold some faith in Paul Heyman that, starting AFTER One Night Stand, he'll push some new talent like Punk and Albright.

Agreed on both counts.

That's certainly true... sell-out may be too strong a word... Hypocrit perhaps?

I have to admit, WWE vs ECW actually had be interested and excited last night. Nothing from WWE in the last 5 years has made me interested or excited. Foley's promo was fantastic, even if it did sorta go in circles--very dark, very Cactus-Jack like. Lawler and Tazz stiffed the SHIT out of each other. I love it. Tazz looks like he lost a little weight too, which is good. They both looked intense and completely legit. Which is probably half-true, apparently they have some backstage heat between them. All four broadcasters were hilarious and spot on last night, especially Styles. His response to Lawler's short jokes "okay there beanpole, what are you, like 5'10?" was priceless. The woman's match was short, to the point, and half-decent. Which is more than can be said for any woman's match since Molly Holly was fired. Show's turn was totally unexpected to me. I haven't been surprised by WWE in a long time. That did the trick. The Edge/Dreamer match, while the ending was predictable, had a few creative spots and was worth watching.

Whew... just my personal suggestions: Punk: The Final Chapter Final Battle 2005 Joe vs Kobashi Weekend of Thunder 1 and 2 Dragon Gate Invasion Dragon Gate Challenge

Ya, maybe it was on Taker. Old man's still got it, I mean it was fuckin VIOLENT. And all with his one non-crippled arm.

Hmm, coulda sworn it was on RAW...

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Nothing more to say. EDIT: oh, and I don't even remember when or WHY this happened, but it was when Ric Flair first came to the WWE (for the second time that is) when WCW closed, and someone was threatening him in the ring, and Arn Anderson came out of nowhere, half-crippled and spinebustered the living SHIT out of the guy. I think it was the first time in 10 years WWE fans got to see a real spinebuster, not the crappy ones the Rock and HHH do.

I can't really comment on the hicksville part... couldn't really notice up in the nosebleed seats at the one SD show I went to. But I think it's just actual perception of the WWE itself, and the fans get shit on by proxy. Right now, the only wrestling anyone knows about and sees is the WWE, and all they see is Katie Vick, Mohammed Hassan, Mae Young giving birth to a hand, and Playboy centerfolds everywhere. What would you, as an outsider, think? It doesn't help that most of these people only vaguely remember WWE in their own past as being Doink the Clown, Papa Shango, and fucking Giant Gonzales. It's amazing how perceptions change when they see something other than the WWE style. A buddy of mine shit on wrestling non-stop, until I sat him down and forced him to watch Joe/Daniels/AJ from last fall. He's a fan now, just not of the WWE.

I may be repeating some, but here's a bit of a list for me: 1. Aries/Danielson 70whatever minute match 2. Whitmer/Jacobs at Dragon Gate Challenge (just a personal fav, what can I say) 3. Joe/Kobashi 4. Joe/Punk II 5. Low Ki/KENTA at Final Battle 05 6. Rave/CM Punk Steel Cage Match from 2005 EDIT: 7. Oh, and the first Strong/Danielson match where Danielson knocked out Strong. Fantastic start to a feud, one that had no real buildup but came off like two guys who genuinely hated each other.