LaParkaYourCar Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 I'm starting this thread...it might not take off. If it doesn't that's okay. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board who do not have a vast knowledge of wrestling moves...I'm one of them. But if we combined our knowledge of moves into a friendly discussion it would better educate us all on this phenomenon known as Wrestling. So I've started this thread so we can discuss our favorite wrestling moves and holds and give a description of how they are done for those who have never seen them. Since a lot of moves never see daylight in the WWE. So let's discuss moves that make us mark out, put us in awe, or just make us appreciate the art of wrestling. If this thread bombs...oh well I tried. This thread can also be used to ask people if they know what a move is. Like say you've heard of a certain move but don't understand the mechanics of it? Come here and ask and someone might know.
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 8, 2002 Author Report Posted September 8, 2002 I'll get this started. Could someone properly describe a "Shining Wizard" since Tazz keeps calling Hurricane's move that even though it's not?
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 I've never actually seen a shining wizard in a match as I am trying to get classic stuff before getting newer stuff. I have seen many video clips of it, including a great looking one where Mutoh leaps off a ref and delievers a solid knee to his opponent's head. The normal way of delivering the shing wizard is set up like Helms does it, the opponent is getting up on one knee, the guy runs at him using the opponent's knee as a step then hitting him in the head with his own knee. Helms does his sloppy, not only is his a shining enziguri but he doesn't use his opponents knee as a step but just jumps and gives them an enziguri. BTW I am not good at giving desciptions. Here's a link to a shing wiz vid clip: http://www.rpi.edu/~chuj/shiningwizard2.avi
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 8, 2002 Author Report Posted September 8, 2002 Thanks now I understand the difference. I like the idea of providing clips when available too in this thread.
EL DANDY~! Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 Helms' Shining Wizard is more like Chono's actually. I think I heard the announcers actually call Chono's a Shining Wizard Kick, to tell you the truth.
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 8, 2002 Author Report Posted September 8, 2002 Okay let's move on. What are some moves that you would mark out for if you saw used in the WWE that are not used in the WWE currently? I'm still hoping that Mike Awesome pulls out his Powerbomb off the top rope since they let Hurricane do a swinging neckbreaker off the top.
Guest Trivia247 Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 For Some reason im always looking away at the precise moment Helms does the "WWE Trademark" Shining wizard. From what I heard on here, its a vulgar mongrel version of the original move
Guest Trivia247 Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 The Super Awesome bomb off the top... Hell I'd be happy if they let Him Hit the Running Awesome bome...Hell if Funaki can wiggle out of that I can't see the Super version getting done yet. PUSH AWESOME
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 8, 2002 Author Report Posted September 8, 2002 I wouldn't call it vulgar. In fact I quite enjoy Helms' move. I just wish they would call it a Shining Enziguri or something like that.
Guest eiker_ir Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 it's not the same move, the one that Mutoh uses is the "SHININ WIZAAAAAHHHH!!!!! it's not the same, see?
Guest razazteca Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 Mexican Surfboard is my favorite move but what is the real name of it? I always thought it was called the Rito Romero Special. Out of all of the variations I like Super Crazy's, SAT Spanich Fly?, and Hijo de Santo double team move he uses in tag teams.
Guest eiker_ir Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 i've always loved the Liontamer, the one that Jericho did in WCW, it's such an amazing move to watch when is done right, the other guy is there on his neck.....whoa too bad that Jericho can't seem to do it correctly anymore......
Guest godthedog Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 what's an EXPLOIDAAAAAAAAAAAH?
EL DANDY~! Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 What is The Stardust Press? help me out.
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 http://www8.50megs.com/vpw2/exploder2.mpg I hope this exploder video clip works(Right click and "save as."). Jamie Noble does a pumphndle exploder.
Guest Ravenbomb Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 I always liked the Half-Nelson suplex, which you can find a clip of on the Hotline Server *Big Cheesy Thumbs Up* 24.169.21.127
Guest The Prodigy Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 never seen hurricanes old stuff so whats a Vertabreaker, Nightmare on Helms street and the Suggar Smack. Hurri's SW is the SW2 hence the difference. Theres also a 3 but I'm not sure what the difference is.
Guest eiker_ir Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 here are some clips of The Hurricane moves: *right click save ass* - Vertabreaker: http://www.chriskanyon.com/shane/vbkidman.avi - Nightmare on Helms Street: http://home.att.net/~shanehelms/media/helm...reetonchavo.avi - SugarSmack: http://home.att.net/~badstreetboys/media/s.../sugarsmack.avi
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 You gotta go to Helms' website, he has some good commentary and video clips including the Vertibreaker. Isn't the sugga smack just a super kick? http://www.shanehelms.com
Guest eiker_ir Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 yeah the sugarSmack is just a Superkick..... i would also like to know what's a Stardust Press, i'm not quite sure.....
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 Here's a clip of the stardust press, I guess it's a corkscrew 450 splash: http://www8.50megs.com/vpw2/hayastar.mpg Right click and "save as".
Guest Flyboy Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 This is the perfect thread for Dace59.
Guest eiker_ir Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 so the Stardust Press is the Phoenix Splash......if that clip is correct.... right?
Guest razazteca Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 I think Hayabusa used the Star Dust Press to pin Mr Gannosuke in their FMW title match.
EL DANDY~! Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 No. The Phoenix Splash is done with the back to the opponent. The Phoenix is a backflip into a 450. And after looking at the video, The Phoenix IS the Stardust. OK. I'm ok now.
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 eiker_ir Posted on Sep 8 2002, 08:20 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so the Stardust Press is the Phoenix Splash......if that clip is correct.... right? Yea, they are the same move. BTW, Gizmo rules!!! I need to get myself an "I love Gizmo t-shirt".
Guest DragonflyKid Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 I have heard the Stardust and Phoenix splash described as being the same move, what is Hayabusa's firebird splash? EDIT: Nevermind, the firebird splash is a regular 450. http://www8.50megs.com/vpw2/hayafire.mpg
Guest Ravenbomb Posted September 8, 2002 Report Posted September 8, 2002 Stardust and Pheonix Splash's are on No Mercy as the Pheonix Splash, the FIrebird Splash is a regular 450 splash
Guest eiker_ir Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 ok so..... Stardust Splash = Phoenix Splash..... next BTW, Gizmo rules!!! I need to get myself an "I love Gizmo t-shirt". everybody loves Gizmo......
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 The Stardust Press/Phoenix Splash is the twisting 450. The Firebird Splash is "only" a regular 450.
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