Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 23, 2003 Yeah, but the waking from the "Hush" dream to find out that there is a Hush would work because it would further drive Batman nuts. No it wouldn't it would needlessly piss off readers to learn that the last 11 months were an absolute waste of time. And if anything his life would be simpler if it was all a dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMadmanGreg Report post Posted August 23, 2003 Nobody can possibly believe "it was all a dream" is a good ending for anything. Period. No further arguements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2003 Here's something to think about as it pertains to Jason Todd being Hush... Who put him in the Lazurus Pit? IMO, Jason's jsut another pawn if thisn ISN'T a dream. And I hope it isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Luke Cage Report post Posted August 24, 2003 SPOILERS Yes it's official, after nearly a year of speculation Hush is Jason Todd. What a goddamned pathetic resolution. After being given modern-day classics like NML and BW:M? from the Bat-Group in the last few years, I guess we were due for a dissapointment, but this... God, this is the same guy who gave us TLH and DV? I'm disgusted. I'm disgusted at Scarecrow's half-assed cameo, I'm disgusted in the Catwoman/Batman relationship. I'm disgusted at Loeb. I'm disgusted at my self for buying this arc. It's not even the bringing back of Todd itself that sucks so much, (Even though it damages Batman's character greatly.) it's that we were promised a great resolution. This feels like shit Marvel used to do in X-Men and Spider-Man in the late 90's. I guess if they keep Jason on as a recurring villain, I can live with it, but... if this was just shock value then this whole arc was a waste, and the follow up arc coming after the Allarzaro and Risso team ahs their 6 months will be the cherry on top. Glad I gave up on this horsehockey comic after two or three issues... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2003 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): It wasn't Jason, it was Clayface. And Hush is wearing Tommy's necklace in the last panel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2003 I bet it's Joe Chill, put into the lazerus pit!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2003 ^^ Holy crappy ending, Batman~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 30, 2003 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): It wasn't Jason, it was Clayface. And Hush is wearing Tommy's necklace in the last panel. No, he's wearing what looks like that. It could easily be another red herring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2003 I hope so. I'm just reporting what I heard. I don't get comics until a few weeks after they're released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMadmanGreg Report post Posted September 1, 2003 It isn't Joe Chill. DC took away that character and his connection to Batman years ago in Zero Hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): So it was Clayface? Sweet! THis book is getting better by the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2003 Here's a theoretical question: What if Hush is Azrael, out to prove once and for all he's better than Bruce or something along those lines? It makes sense if you think about it... Oh, wait. Azrael wasn't on DC's little contest list. Is it just me or did that stupid contest help ruin the suspense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just J Report post Posted September 26, 2003 The last of this series came out this week. Did anyone read it yet? I won't be able to get it until Sunday, so fill me in, if you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted September 26, 2003 It's out? I didn't see it anywhere yesterday. the new Uncanny X-men can fill your Russo swerve quotient for a few days anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Well, the ending was... The Man in Bandages was Tommy Elliot, BUT he too was just a pawn in an elaborate game played by one man... the only guy who could plan such an epic crime.... THE RIDDLER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Are you serious? Jesus christ. Well, at least they're attempting to develop somebody's character, although honestly I think that Todd would've been a better choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted September 26, 2003 Are you serious? Jesus christ. Well, at least they're attempting to develop somebody's character, although honestly I think that Todd would've been a better choice. Here's the sequence of events that led to The Riddler's plan: - A year or so before the first issue of Hush, The Riddler is diagnosed with a terminal form of cancer. He begins to contimplate the greatest riddle of all: How does one cheat death? - With the help of his doctor, Tommy Elliot, Riddler makes it to a Lazerus Pit. In the aftermath, instead of going insane his mental powers are heightened. He finally figures out who Batman is, and in exchange for his help, The Riddler concocts a plan for Tommy to destroy Bruce/Batman. However, Tommy's benefit is just a sham. The plan's TRUE purpose is to re-establish The Riddler as Gotham's primier costumed criminal. - The Riddler and Elliot include Scarecrow in the plan. He does profile work on the various pawns, and Hush is given his name. - The players are contacted one by one and offered what they desire for their participation (NOTE: Individual demands can be found in Issue 619) - Jason Todd's body is exhumed - Harold plants a device in the Bat Computer that subliminally shows Batman Tommy Elliot's face so Bruce will remember him when he falls. - The events of Chapters 1-5 play out as planned. Gordon's gun is stolen to prepare for the next 2 chapters. - The events of the next two chapters play out. Harvey Dent begins work on sabotaging Riddler's plan. - Riddler diverts suspicion from himself by planning a routine crime and "throwing it" He intentionally leaves a clue to leads Bats to Ra's in the hope that Bats will kill Ra's for him. - While Bats is gone the Jason Todd deception is planned to furthur humiliate Batman. Riddler has Jason's body hidden in a final "fuck you" to Batman. - The "Jason Todd gag" (as named by Nygma in Issue 619) goes off without a hitch. - Tommy Elliot gets his showdown with Batman but Dent succeeds in saving Batman. Batman has his showdown with the man who manipulated his rogue's and friends: The Riddler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMadmanGreg Report post Posted September 26, 2003 It was an alright ending, but overall, I suppose I would have been disappointed no matter who Hush was. Still, I don't like the way that Batman was punked out by freakin' Elliot like that. This whole story arc didn't deserve anywhere near the hype it received. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2003 I stick with the thought it should have been Hugo Strange. WOuld have fit very nicely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2003 The Riddler? I'm impressed. And it's about time one of Batman's foes figured out his identity; none of them are stupid, which is probably what makes them so appealing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellSpawn 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 OK, I need to re-read the whole arc, But... How in the hell Elliot found the Lazarus pit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
