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I'd be watching Nitro. I was always a bigger WCW fan, plus I feel they were really nailing it home with the last few months of Nitro, despite the company crumbling down all around them.

 

Alas, too little, too late.

 

UYI

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Geez talk about Waxing Nostagia-- WCW lost 80 million a year for a reason guys...

We're talking about IF they had righted the ship like they were before they finally died. Would we be watching it over Raw now? Assuming that the ship got righted and it stayed it's course.

 

Hence discussion.

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This is odd..

 

If Vince hadn't bought WCW..there wouldn't have been enough wrestlers to create the brand extension. No brand extension would mean RAW would have to better than it is now.

 

Im not too sure how well WCW would have been doing over the last couple of years, but I think they would have gone out of business on their own by last year anyway.

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Guest Coffey
If Vince hadn't bought WCW..there wouldn't have been enough wrestlers to create the brand extension. No brand extension would mean RAW would have to better than it is now.

No it doesn't. It means that the McMahon's & Triple H would be ruining both shows instead of just one. There wouldn't be enough time on each show for them.

 

Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, etc. wouldn't ever get a chance to shine. Trying to split the time in one show between 3-4 McMahons, Triple H, & Steve Austin would be damn near impossible.

 

So, the way that I see it, the brand extension not happening wouldn't make Raw better, it would make Smackdown worse.

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Guest Sakura
We're talking about IF they had righted the ship like they were before they finally died. Would we be watching it over Raw now? Assuming that the ship got righted and it stayed it's course.

 

Hence discussion

Rjghting the ship = Ric Flair kissing a mule's ass?

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Guest Loss

I think RAW was a better quality show in 2001, but Nitro was less depressing because they were actually building up a strong main event scene with fresh faces. You still had odd things like Ric Flair's humiliation and the Rick Steiner push, but there are always going to be stupid things like that in any promotion, and they certainly existed in WWE even in the brightest days of the Attitude era.

 

I think things would be competitive by now, just because WCW would have erased the stigma. The publicity stunt they had planned would have been something major too.

 

They were going to do an angle in May where the locker room cleared and destroyed the ring, set and all WCW logos. They were going to declare WCW dead and unveil a new name and be "forced off the air" due to the controversy for two months, giving them time to rebuild and come back with a brand new set, name and stars. Whether it would have worked or not is up for debate, but it was definitely a risk worth taking.

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RAW was the better show at the time, but like Loss said, WCW was actually building up new stars and giving the new faces a chance to shine. Whether it was because they knew the end was near or not doesn't really matter. The point still remains that by time WCW finally folded, they had created several new stars, given previously unknown talent some exposure, and given the fans new people to care about and be entertained by.

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I'd be watching Nitro now, just like I was watching Nitro then. I'm a huge Flair mark (have been since the mid-80's) so that alone is enough to make me choose Nitro. Add in Booker, SOH, Helms, Jarrett, Storm & Chavo and I'm even more interested. Maybe add in some of the ECW guys, or those that are now TNA guys, and it's even better. Plus, when Nitro was it's absolute worst it was still "so bad it's entertaining" ... when Raw sucks, it's "so bad I might just not watch TV".

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Guest Boo_Bradley

They had to make new stars, the guys they pushed for years had all gotten too old... it wasn't totally done because someone smartened up...

 

Flair/Luger/Bagwell/Steiners/Douglas were majior heels in the last months

 

Nash headlined the 2nd from last WCW PPV ever/ DDP headlined one of the last ones as well

 

This is your fresh main events?

 

So if the WWF tossed a few rookies to the top and had cruisers put on 2 ***+ matches a week, you'd think it was an improvement?

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Guest Trivia247

geez people forget what WCW did to David flair when they played with Ric being WCW president.

 

Flair being US champ...

 

David Ariquette being World champ

 

oh yea you'd take Nitro over raw?

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Guest Trivia247

oh wait don't forget the blockbuster

 

Dennis Rodman vs a Deteriorated Randy Savage

 

with Arli$$ as their agent...

 

woohoo that was ***** right SK?

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