LucharesuFan619 Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 To me, a suplex must have these qualities: - victim's feet must be above his head at one point (which is why a rock bottom isn't a suplex to me) Then what about an exploider. And Shut The Fuck Up Barber, no one cares what you think, or you "solving everyone's question" No wonder you're so hated on this board.
Guest Breetai Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 How about; "a suplex is any throw in which the attackee is thrown from in front of the attacker to behind him"?
The Czech Republic Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 So is a small house divided into two houses actually a "doo-play"? Don't make things so com-play.
Slickster Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 How about; "a suplex is any throw in which the attackee is thrown from in front of the attacker to behind him"? *thinks* what about a front suplex? (pickup for vertical, falls forward so opponent lands on stomach)
RavishingRickRudo Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 *awards TCR Post of the Week*
clean rob Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 I've always thought of a suplex as any manouvre where the opponent is physically lifted (as opposed to being tipped) over the attackers centre of balance. Does that rule anything out? Also, could somebody give me a brief description of the uranage? Only the Ura Nage (back throw) that I have seen practised in judo and jiu jitsu bears no relation whatsoever to the Rock Bottom.
The Metal Maniac Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 A suplex IS - A move that involves throwing their feet over your head, while you fall to your back (Though I suppose you could argue that in cases of a Uranage, it could be considered a suplex if you fall to your front). As far as I know, this matches every suplex that there is, save a few variations of ones (I.E. the Drop Suplex) but those don't really count, sez I.
Guest Eric the Eagle Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 Still eliminates the Side Suplex and a few belly to bellys (on both counts, actually), but otherwise...
Guest Breetai Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 A suplex IS - A move that involves throwing their feet over your head, while you fall to your back (Though I suppose you could argue that in cases of a Uranage, it could be considered a suplex if you fall to your front). As far as I know, this matches every suplex that there is, save a few variations of ones (I.E. the Drop Suplex) but those don't really count, sez I. What about Germans then?
The Metal Maniac Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 When I say "over the head", I don't mean LITERALLY directly over your head - just their feet breaking the plane that your head is on - they go above the level of your head. I'm pretty sure that during the course of a german, someone's feet are gonna break that plane - same for the side suplex, though that lame-ass Shamrock style belly-to-belly always bugged me anyway.
Lei Tong Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 He may have been talking out of his ass, but my brother once told me that suplexes never involve grabbing below the waist, which, considering the techniques' origin in Greco Roman wrestling, would make sense. Of course, there are some exceptions in the pro wrestling world (IE- caputre suplex, fisherman suplex).
Guest Trivia247 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 tabletop suplex is another term for the fallaway slam, which evidently is catagoriesed as a Suplex..... Taz in 95 did it making it look a bit different than the Bradshaws and Halls do it.... its like you start with almost a t-bone position but then when you lift up to throw him backwards you turn him Horizontal before impact.........you can even bridge into it for a Pin
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