Guest JMA Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Let's say that instead of Shamrock, the WWF hired Angle to ref the match between Austin and Hart. And let's say he joined like Shamrock did. How different would the industry be? Think of all the matches we could've seen. Angle vs. Vader, Angle vs. Hart, Angle vs. Austin (pre-neck injury), Angle vs. Michaels, Angle vs. Owen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Angle wouldn't be what we know him to be because Shamrock only trained for a short amount of time and it took Angle almost A year of training before he was called Up... His character would have been drastically different, as he would have been a Legit Bad Ass rather then the Cocky Arrgant Gold Medalist... So Angle likely, never would have broke out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Angle wouldn't be what we know him to be because Shamrock only trained for a short amount of time and it took Angle almost A year of training before he was called Up... His character would have been drastically different, as he would have been a Legit Bad Ass rather then the Cocky Arrgant Gold Medalist... So Angle likely, never would have broke out That seems a little overtly negative. I find this to be the case a lot of the time when a hypothetical situation is presented. I feel his character would've been presented at first as the bad ass legitimate athlete but would have become his classic cocky character during 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 I think Shamrock was better for that particular role simply because he was already a known badass and fit the attitude of the match better than Angle would. Angle had just come off winning the Olympics the previous year, and Vince would have played off that as much as possible...of course then maybe we wouldn't have had to suffer through The Patriot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 28, 2003 The Patriot had been around for years before Angle (I remember seeing matches of him from 1990) so it wasn't Vince's idea to make that character. Also, wasn't Angle recovering from his broken neck in March 1997? Or Did he have it magically cured after the olympics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Also, wasn't Angle recovering from his broken neck in March 1997? Or Did he have it magically cured after the olympics. He wouldn't be wrestling right away. Besides, we all know that broken necks can't stop your Olympic Hero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Boo_Bradley Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Angle wouldn't be what we know him to be because Shamrock only trained for a short amount of time and it took Angle almost A year of training before he was called Up... Shamrock worked the indies during the late 80's with the Malenkos - WWF didn't train him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk angel 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 His character would have been drastically different, as he would have been a Legit Bad Ass rather then the Cocky Arrgant Gold Medalist... So Angle likely, never would have broke out angle didnt enter the wwf as a cocky gold medalist, he was a baby face at first. i remember him having a feud with tiger ali singh when he had some india is better than america gimmick goin on, but i think angle got hurt before that went anywhere and then came back with the cocky olympic hero gimmick. i was watching the kurt angle its true its true video a few days ago and i just wish wwe would turn him heel again. some of the promos on that video were some of the funniest ive ever seen. his character seems kinda lame now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 28, 2003 That was a pretty Isolated Incident...Considering it was nearly a year apart from his WWE debut in 1999... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cran Da Maniac 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2003 His character would have been drastically different, as he would have been a Legit Bad Ass rather then the Cocky Arrgant Gold Medalist... So Angle likely, never would have broke out angle didnt enter the wwf as a cocky gold medalist, he was a baby face at first. i remember him having a feud with tiger ali singh when he had some india is better than america gimmick goin on, but i think angle got hurt before that went anywhere and then came back with the cocky olympic hero gimmick. i was watching the kurt angle its true its true video a few days ago and i just wish wwe would turn him heel again. some of the promos on that video were some of the funniest ive ever seen. his character seems kinda lame now Actually that wasn't really a feud at all. It was more just to get heat on Tiger Ali Singh and his anti-american gimmick. Of course they did originally plan to have him debut against Stasiak as a face, but the fans reaction to his pre-debut vignettes and to Angle himself made him a heel. I get the feeling that if Angle debuted in '97, then by now he'd probably be retired from the business because of his neck. We'd probably be talking about how good he was, and wondering what might have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted September 28, 2003 Angle did face Owen btw, in a Dark Match on RAW..or a House Show, I forget. So at least he acomplished one thing we wish. Too bad it wasn't on T.V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted September 30, 2003 I get the feeling that if Angle debuted in '97, then by now he'd probably be retired from the business because of his neck. We'd probably be talking about how good he was, and wondering what might have been. I have to disagree. I think he'd still be working today. In fact, he might even be better than he is now (if someone as good as Angle CAN improve). Think about it. He'd be able to learn stuff from Bret, Shawn, Owen, and even Austin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2003 His character would have been drastically different, as he would have been a Legit Bad Ass rather then the Cocky Arrgant Gold Medalist... So Angle likely, never would have broke out angle didnt enter the wwf as a cocky gold medalist, he was a baby face at first. i remember him having a feud with tiger ali singh when he had some india is better than america gimmick goin on, but i think angle got hurt before that went anywhere and then came back with the cocky olympic hero gimmick. i was watching the kurt angle its true its true video a few days ago and i just wish wwe would turn him heel again. some of the promos on that video were some of the funniest ive ever seen. his character seems kinda lame now Actually that wasn't really a feud at all. It was more just to get heat on Tiger Ali Singh and his anti-american gimmick. Of course they did originally plan to have him debut against Stasiak as a face, but the fans reaction to his pre-debut vignettes and to Angle himself made him a heel. I get the feeling that if Angle debuted in '97, then by now he'd probably be retired from the business because of his neck. We'd probably be talking about how good he was, and wondering what might have been. FUN FACT: Angle def. Stasiak in a dark match at KOTR '99. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Speaking of which, I always did want to see Shamrock / Angle. I can just imagine Shamrock coming out of nowhere and beating up Angle during some match screaming "You stole my Anklelock!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Shamrock had the much better anklelock. He had the kick ass version where he sat down with one of his legs crossing over the back of his opponents knee. Angle does the gay standing version which everyone reverses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 4, 2003 I'm actually glad Shamrock and Angle never faced each other. I was never too keen on shoot fighters becoming pro wrestlers. Besides, Shamrock did the standing version a lot as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2003 Shamrock had the much better anklelock. He had the kick ass version where he sat down with one of his legs crossing over the back of his opponents knee. Angle does the gay standing version which everyone reverses. Well that is because he is usually the heel in the situation, Shammy was usually the face. Plus the Angle "character" being cocky would say "Hey I can get this guy to tap just by half-assing this move" while the legit bad ass "Shammrock" character would do the move proper Its all in the character of the character Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2003 If Angle had been around back then he would have been teamed up with Mark Henry and formed an Ultra American tagteam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
