EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2004 Generally as commissioner, I would reject a trade only if it showed an obvious collusive effort. When that's absent, there's no reason to block a trade, no matter how bad it may be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2004 Ok... I don't like the trade between Alfdogg and Fear The Slayers for this reason. While it does show in the current player rankings that Fear The Slayers is getting the better deal, Alfdogg is getting the better deal statistically as Alfdogg is improving 5 categories while Slayer is only improving in 3. On The Flip Side: The last player that Alfdogg has selected will be starting some games here for the Pacers. Since the guy has only started 16 games, it's not purposely fair to assume that he's stats wouldn't be as good as someone else there, had he started all 30+. As it's unfair to guess what type of stats he coudl've had. Hence I went with average stats and found that they are sound for the trade. Final Verdict On Trade: Since this trade is balanced, with Fear taking a slight risk with Tinsley (but without that risk there would be nothing gained), I approve of it. Even if it makes me have a gut reaction of NO. The logic of the trade is sound and so I can not disapprove of it. Enjoy your new team players. My logic is this: I'm 13th in a 16 team league. I've made minor moves that haven't worked. Hence, it's now time to do something major. Alf may be gaining in more categories, but I've upgraded the rankings of my top two players, and managed to acquire a top 15 player, ranked higher than Artest in O'Neal. Yao is frustratingly inconsistent, going for 21-15 like he did this week, and going for 6-6 the next. He definitely was not worth the first round pick I wasted on him, but now I have a legit first round pick-worthy player. I drafted Tinsley initially, and for whatever reason he was in Carlisle's doghouse, rarely playing with Kenny Anderson starting. Now, Tinsley is starting and playing, I think he had 8 points and 9 assists in his last game, it's worth bringing him back onto the team, or possibly trading him along. It's also the idea that I'm not done yet; trying to improve through waviers and even more deals. But, like I said, I'm in the bottom half of the league, my team has shown that they aren't going to win on a consistent basis, and it was time for a major change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Well, i guess Johnson finally got himself banned. It looks like i'm going to go down 0-8, so hopefully my trade will start to help me out next week. I'll now have two elite players worthy of 1st round picks in Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, and some good lower tier players in Kenyon Martin, Quentin Richardson, Nene, Carlos Arroyo (with Harpring gone he should lift his numbers a bit) and Derek Anderson (he's been good and bad since returning, but when he's been good he's looked very good, a bit more consistency and game time should result in him being a strong contributor). My guards are looking quite strong, but i'm left a bit shabby at forward. KG and K-Mart are money, but after that i only have Maurice Taylor (decent but nothing special) and Samuel Dalembert, who's been looking real good lately, but who knows how long that'll last. Though he also gives me a backup to Nene at C. Of course the key to the whole thing is Stackhouse, when he comes back i'll have a third top level player (stat-wise anyway, especially with Arenas proving to be highly injury prone Stackhouse will be the first option for the Wizards). Typically i gave up Glenn Robinson as soon as he started getting good, but my team was going nowhere anyway, it was time to shake things up a bit. I'll probably look into offering another trade or two as well, probably looking for a third forward to bolster my lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 I'm losing in a major squash to Marvin's team. The standing could have a big shake up, I could drop a spot or 2. Celtics could be #1, SHIT could be #2, Guerreros #3, #4 Team 2003. I needed to squash someone..bonus points for it being the #1 team in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 It has not been a good week for me. I have made 2 very bad decisions in that I benched both Lenard & Gooden on career high games and missed out on 60 points plus several 3 pointers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted January 18, 2004 I believe Alfdogg is gonna take me based on pure mass of games compared to my guys alone. Thats what I get for having multiple guys on the same team though, so I salute you sir. *Wishes he hadn't left Odom on free agency so long ago with the thinking of "Well Kukoc will have a big year with the Bucks, no need for Odom"* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Still down 0-8, but Team 2004 has no players tomorrow, while i have two. Now all i need is for Derek Anderson and Nene to combine for about 31 Free Throws, 12 3-pointers, 124 points, 30 assists and 43 rebounds and i can still win! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Just curious, but S.H.I.T is Johnson's team, correct? The reason I ask is since Just J has been banned, this shall mean his team is now null and void. I will be locking down his team and proceeding to spread out the players of his team to the weaker teams of the league. No, you people aren't getting a choice in the matter. It's all happening on Monday. I just wish to confirm that is his team and finalize what will be done. This is a TSM league and created for the purpose of TSM players. Hence you must be of TSM to play in it. Since he is not, his team will be dismantled. Now some of you will probably ask "who which player" and I will decide which players will end up with what team. Yes, this will drastically alter the league, but as I said, this is a TSM-Only, and since he is no longer a member of TSM, his account will be rendered useless. Now, I know this will probably be unfair to some people as quite a few of you will be getting a 8-0 rip off of him, but since this will most likely be the case since his account will be useless, might as well make some usage of the team. While this process of dismantling his team is done, no team will be able to make any additions or drops. It will only be a single day (Monday) and should not take the whole day. This is so that I can make sure that everything goes smoothly an ok. After this happens, I will unlock all teams once again. Each team that has a player going to his team (from a list that I will have up shortly) will be asked to select one player to drop and post specifically on this board which player that will be. I will be doing the transactions via my commish controls (hence your deactivation of adds and drops) so as no ... ahem, person gets screwed out of the player that they are receiving. Yes, I know Kobe Bryant is on the IL, and you will still lose a person when it comes to picking up Bryant. That's about all I have to say. I will have the listings up here shortly of who will go where (with Bryant going to someone, and without Bryant in the listing, and with/who wants to gamble on him). Feedback will be accepted of course, but this will be set in motion. Thank you, The Commish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Even though this will likely benefit my team, I have to prtest. Breaking up teams and distributing players really messes up the quality of competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Even though this will likely benefit my team, I have to prtest. Breaking up teams and distributing players really messes up the quality of competition. And what's to stop him from dropping every player on his team and doing the exact same except it be more chaotic that way? If I had let him have control. I halted his team, yes, but that just makes it hassle as everyone will more than likely go 8-0 on him now that I halted his players and the guys who are slated to play play. Besides I doubt that anyone will like losing to a team that isn't being played by anyone at all. And no, I'm not about to take over his team and play it for the rest of the season as that's not right in itself either. I'm also not about to have his team take over possession of a top 6 playoff spot that deservedly goes to someone else that is still of TSM. I already admitted that this will definitely fuck up the league, and is more of a problem maker than a bonifide solution. It fucks it up more since 1/3 of the season is still left to be played and hence this could make someone in the lower rankings (such as Fear The Slayers), become a top 6 team. *shrugs* But what else do I do? Nothing is going to satisfy everyone totally. I'd rather just push one decision as the final one, then have everyone arguing over a whatever solution they find best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Read my original post on the subject of what this post is all about (it's only 3 posts up people, the one with "The Commish" signed at the bottom. ***** This listing is done by rank as rank means who gets the most overall stats. This listing is assuming where everyone's ranking will end up on Monday. Some might change and if that should happen, the positioning of who gets which player will happen as well. You can choose NOT to take someone if you do not wish to have a player that player will move down to the next and thusly the last person on the listing will get someone better overall, but this will also drop a player of the listing into the Free Agency as well. Kobe Bryant is a special case as explained in the next listing. Why did I not include Mark Blount going to anyone? Because I've already got the bottom half of the league getting free players. Hence why not. He'll be added to free agency. Because Bryant is injuried it is not fair that I ask someone to simply take Bryant and immediately shelf him right afterwards, not being able to use him right away. Hence Bryant will be a "if you want him" pick. So if Gotham Harlequin doesn't wish to take Bryant he will get the slated pick going to Crimson Storm, Kerry Kittles. However, this means that should Crimson Storm wish to take Kobe Bryant, he can do so. If he does not, he will then receive Lebron James. In the case of someone choosing Bryant? They will select Bryant and the order of picks will remain the same. Listing with Kobe Bryant Chosen (Bryant not chosen): Gotham Harlequins - Kobe Bryant (Kerry Kittles) Crimson Storm - Kerry Kittles (Lebron James) Fear The Slayers - Lebron James (Steve Nash) Gwanju White Tigers - Steve Nash (Latrell Sprewell) Pocono Poison - Latrell Sprewell (Darrel Armstrong) The Alleged Rapists - Darrel Armstrong (Clifford Robinson) The Alfdogg Asylum - Clifford Robinson (Vlade Divac) Better Than Utah - Vlade Divac (Mark Blount) Doubt Bryant won't get chosen by SOMEONE, but there you have it. That's how the listing is, and that's how it shall be. As I said before, this will fuck up the league, but leaving the account up in the air will do just about the same amount of damage as well. Outrage and feedback encouraged. As I want to know where everyone stands on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 I hope you did not freeze the waiver list as I put a request for a Center on Saturday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 As much as I have to gain through this (An 8-0 victory in the last regular season week and either James or Nash), my suggestion is to allow someone else from the board to take control of the S.H.I.T. Yes, we're putting someone new into an unfair situation, as they have no control over the situation they are getting into, but as the standings show, Johnson has a good team, so putting a person on a top five team is better than say, kicking me out and giving them my team, which is a bottom five team. We may not find someone to take his spot on the board, but that's my suggestion for this situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 As much as I have to gain through this (An 8-0 victory in the last regular season week and either James or Nash), my suggestion is to allow someone else from the board to take control of the S.H.I.T. Yes, we're putting someone new into an unfair situation, as they have no control over the situation they are getting into, but as the standings show, Johnson has a good team, so putting a person on a top five team is better than say, kicking me out and giving them my team, which is a bottom five team. We may not find someone to take his spot on the board, but that's my suggestion for this situation. I'd love to have someone take over his account but, Problem: His account is attached to his yahoo id and league settings aren't touchable (where I'm assuming I could drop someone else into the position). Therefore, I'd have have to manually do any transactions through my Commish controls each and every time to make roster changes. I'd also have to be in constant contact with said person. Since I'm on night shifts, I hardly would be able to keep in contact so often with said person. Even if we routed it through a third party, I'd still have to do everything and I might not be able to do it right away because I'm sleeping my ass off. I really would love for someone to take over his team, but I have no access in doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 I hope you did not freeze the waiver list as I put a request for a Center on Saturday. Waiver list is not frozen till tomorrow. Edit: ...possibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 I've also had it stated (in the message board on Yahoo) that I should instead set up a draft instead of the proposed idea of just having people get a listing and must accept whom I give. I have to say that while I'd rather do a listing just to make life easier, I am willing to do a draft as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Well tonight (Sunday) at midnight Pacific Time is when the waiver is up for the player I want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Well tonight (Sunday) at midnight Pacific Time is when the waiver is up for the player I want. Then don't worry, you'll still have your player, I'd be putting the hold on waivers at 6am MST on Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Uh, GHEY! Also not fair, and stuff. Thank god this is only a free crappy fantasy league... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Well tonight (Sunday) at midnight Pacific Time is when the waiver is up for the player I want. Great; I want Brian Grant too. I still don't understand the waiver system, other than that I never get the player I want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Uh, GHEY! Also not fair, and stuff. Thank god this is only a free crappy fantasy league... That's what you get for succeeding. Us underachievers get all the rewards. ::Clutches to his .250 record:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Uh, GHEY! Also not fair, and stuff. Thank god this is only a free crappy fantasy league... That's what you get for succeeding. Us underachievers get all the rewards. ::Clutches to his .250 record:: Yea, I mean god forbid I have a smart draft and earn my way to 1st place most of the season so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Well tonight (Sunday) at midnight Pacific Time is when the waiver is up for the player I want. Great; I want Brian Grant too. I still don't understand the waiver system, other than that I never get the player I want. Quiet you! You get a player in the expansion draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Uh, GHEY! Also not fair, and stuff. Thank god this is only a free crappy fantasy league... That's what you get for succeeding. Us underachievers get all the rewards. ::Clutches to his .250 record:: Yea, I mean god forbid I have a smart draft and earn my way to 1st place most of the season so far. Meh, don't worry too much; even after this draft you'll still stomp me 8-0/7-1 in a couple of weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman9000 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Speaking of which, how exactly is this draft going to work? Is it going to be done the same way we did it before, or will it be done a different way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Speaking of which, how exactly is this draft going to work? Is it going to be done the same way we did it before, or will it be done a different way? Draft will be done as before, it will just be done in this thread. Also, I don't care if people consider this "GHEY" or whatever you want to call it. It's either I do it this way, or I drop them in FA. How many people will bitch more over the second choice? As for Waiver Priority: I'm not all that sure how it works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) The only thing I don't like is that every team that plays SHIT is gonna win 8-0, but I shouldn't argue since my matchup is week 19 (first week of March..) Plus I have #2 waiver priority. Yippee. Edited January 18, 2004 by MarvinisaLunatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dr. Phil Report post Posted January 18, 2004 Look, I am J, and I think it's wrong to lock my team. I am 4th in the standings for christ sake with almost half the season gone. LF, please unlock my team and allow me to finish out the season. That is the only way to keep the league true to form. Just becasue I am "banned" from here that shouldn't mean that the league should suffer. I ask again, please allow me to keep competeing in the league. Thank you, Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2004 ...well that was certainly unexpected... To say the least. You didn't have to come out and admit that this poster and Just J were one and the same. Just talk to me about it and we could discuss things and I could've said we discussed this over AIM or some messanger. (Side Note: And don't bother with AIM, as I'm never online any of my messagers right now do to me sleeping periodically here and there.) If you are still willing to continue on with your team and not screw up the league as I worried about, I'm fine with you keeping your team. ...your team has been unlocked btw. To everyone else, sorry for the drama. League continues as it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dr. Phil Report post Posted January 18, 2004 You got a deal Flick. I haven't caused any probs in the league and I won't. I just want the chance to win fair and square. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
