Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted October 2, 2003 I haven't posted here in months........ From WND.........http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34890 The Communist Party USA will not run a candidate for president, will not support progressive third-party bids but will instead throw its support behind the Democratic Party in an all-out effort to defeat President Bush and the Republican Congress, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. The giveaway of the party's plan, reports the online intelligence newsletter, is a frequent call for a ''united front'' to defeat Bush by major figures and spokesmen. This is the language employed by the party in the past when it has supported liberal candidates and issues not necessarily under party discipline, says G2 Bulletin. As far back as April 17, Joelle Fishman, chairwoman of the party's political action committee, wrote in a report to the national board that Communists should not field a candidate of their own in 2004. ''Our presidential campaigns in the past were a great opportunity to project our program, and I'm sure we will find ourselves at that point some time in the future,'' she wrote. ''At this moment, we will convey our program best by working with all out might to build the broadest possible coalitions, fronts and networks that can defeat the undemocratic, imperialistic Bush war machine. This is our responsibility to our own class here and internationally.'' Fishman also mentioned discussions with the Green Party and other ''left'' organizations in which the Communists have argued against presidential and congressional candidates by third parties, adding, ''one united push is required to defeat the Republican stronghold.'' ''The discussion will require a special approach with groups like the Campus Greens and the Peace and Freedom Party in California,'' she continued. At a June 29 meeting in New York, the national committee approved a resolution making the defeat of Bush and the Republican majority in Congress the ''number one priority.'' ''Discussion is also taking place within the Green Party about whether to run a presidential candidate this year,'' said a report to the national committee this summer. ''A section of Greens have come to agree that the defeat of Bush is the number one issue.'' However, not all of the Democratic presidential candidates energize the Communists. While the party has not yet weighed in on the candidacy of Gen. Wesley Clark, officials speak and write critically of Sen. Joe Lieberman, ''who has played an enabling role of the Bush administration by leading on compromises that undercut stronger Democratic proposals, especially in foreign policy.'' The party is also leery of John Edwards and Richard Gephardt because of their association with the less-progressive Democratic Leadership Council. Dennis Kucinich, Co-chairman of Congressional Progressive Caucus The party has nothing but praise for Sen. John Kerry, Bob Graham, Howard Dean, Al Sharpton and Carol Moseley Braun. But, judging from the accolades and laudatory comments, Dennis Kucinich, the co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, is by far the favorite Democratic candidate. His co-chairwoman is Barbara Lee, D-Calif., who has a career-long history of associations with Communist Party and extremist groups and individuals. Lee is a long-time friend of Communist Party militant Angela Davis, a former Communist Party presidential candidate, and succeeded another radical from the city of Oakland, Rep. Ron ''Red'' Dellums. Lee paid her establishment political dues – first as an aide to Dellums and later as a California assemblywoman and state senator. However, less known is Lee's service on the national coordinating committee of the ''Committees of Correspondence,'' an organization that splintered from the Communist Party USA in 1991. Davis, the three-time Communist Party candidate for vice president of the United States, served by her side. ''The field of Democratic presidential hopefuls is not monolithic,'' explained a report by Fishman to the CPUSA national committee June 28. ''Rep. Kucinich (D-Ohio) and Rev. Al Sharpton are playing a radicalizing role Sharpton is campaigning for constitutional amendments to guarantee the right to vote, to education and to health care. Kucinich has pledged his first act as president will be to repeal NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) and the WTO (World Trade Organization). He has introduced and co-sponsored legislation to form a Department of Peace, to abolish the death penalty and to end pre-emptive military policy, among many others.'' ''It will take an extraordinary united all-people's front with a movement on the ground to defeat the Bush right-wing agenda in 2004,'' explained a report to the CPUSA national committee June 28, again written by Fishman. ''It can be done with the combination of the labor vote, the women's vote and African-American and Latino vote, combined with the youth vote, the peace vote, the environmental vote, the senior vote, the farm vote, etc., all of whom are pledged to work as they never have before.'' Kucinich's Progressive Caucus is a socialist-leaning bloc of about 60 votes or nearly 30 percent of the minority vote in the lower chamber. Until 1999, the website of the Progressive Caucus was hosted by the Democratic Socialists of America. Following an expose of the link between the two organizations in WorldNetDaily, the Progressive Caucus established its own website under the auspices of the Congress. Another officer of the Progressive Caucus, and one of its guiding lights, is avowed socialist Rep. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent. The Democratic Socialists of America's chief organizing goal is to work within the Democratic Party and remove the stigma attached to ''socialism'' in the eyes of most Americans. ''Stress our Democratic Party strategy and electoral work,'' explains an organizing document of the DSA. ''The Democratic Party is something the public understands, and association with it takes the edge off. Stressing our Democratic Party work will establish some distance from the radical subculture and help integrate you to the milieu of the young liberals.'' Nevertheless, the goal of the Democratic Socialists of America has never been deeply hidden. Prior to the cleanup of its website in 1999, the DSA included a song list featuring ''The Internationale,'' the worldwide anthem of communism and socialism. Another song on the site was ''Red Revolution'' sung to the tune of ''Red Robin.'' The lyrics went: ''When the Red Revolution brings its solution along, along, there'll be no more lootin' when we start shootin' that Wall Street throng. ...'' Another song removed after WorldNetDaily's expose was ''Are You Sleeping, Bourgeoisie?'' The lyrics went: ''Are you sleeping? Are you sleeping? Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie. And when the revolution comes, We'll kill you all with knives and guns, Bourgeoisie, Bourgeoisie.'' In the last three years, the Progressive Caucus has been careful to moderate its image for mainstream consumption. ''The members of the Progressive Caucus share a common belief in the principles of social and economic justice, non-discrimination and tolerance in America and in our relationships with other countries,'' the group's statement of purpose explains. Most of the members of the Progressive Caucus, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, opposed authorizing the war on Iraq. In fact, most Democrats in the House opposed the war resolution. Then House Minority Leader Gephardt and 81 other House Democrats supported the move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 2, 2003 OMG! COMMUNIST DEMS LOL!!!111 Just saying it before someone else did. Doesn't the Communist party realize that by supporting the Dems they are hurting them? Geez. It boggles the mind. Memo to the Communist party: People don't like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Well now the Democrats have no chance in hell of my vote if they are siding with Commies. Red bastards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Well than President Bush should start packing his bags ASAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 So, a vote for a Democrat is also a vote for Communism? That just totally doesnt make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 I haven't posted here in months........ ...and not surprisingly, we all know why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Well now the Democrats have no chance in hell of my vote if they are siding with Commies. Red bastards. It's the other way around, actually. The Commies are siding with the Dems. I'm sure a lot of the Democratic candidates are upset by this (as they should be). This is just more ammo for right-wing Republicans. "I told y'all they were all red-bellied commies! HAW HAW HAW!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 It's just the same if some Right-wing wacko group bands with the GOP to toss a Dem out of office somewhere. Still, though, Bush and Rove will have to do something to counter those 4 or 5 votes going against him from Commies R Us. I say punch-card voting machines in every "Little Moscow" across America... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Doesn't the Communist party realize that by supporting the Dems they are hurting them? In that case... GO COMMIES! WOO-HOO! An ad on TV every hour, a full-page ad in every newspaper, and hours of talking it up on the radio. Did you know that you can't spell "Howard Dean" without "Now a Red?" Delightful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted October 2, 2003 The Democratic party leaning to far too the left? Nah... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 The Democratic party leaning to far too the left? Nah... Dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted October 2, 2003 My, my, Tyler, hit a little too close to the mark? Makes me think of a bunch of commies marching along and one looks at the other and says "If this works, doesn't that mean they're right?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 If Big Media were to report that the Confederate Brothers of the South, or Black Chopper Watchers were taking up the side of President Bush to defeat the future Dem. nominee, it would be the same thing, although I'm sure there would be some "liberal media painting Bush with these extremists" shouting going on. It's a silly story, so I, for one, am treating it as such. There will be plenty of time to compare Democrats to commies in the near future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 My, my, Tyler, hit a little too close to the mark? No, I just call it like I see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 You know, there are bad parties that have actual support you should actually care about. Britain's nazi-like National Party, for example. Glad to have you back, OlympicSlam. Your game of making mountains out of molehills to jump to conclusions will be a welcome change from TheMikeSC's game of splitting hairs and pulling facts out of the ass to jump to conclusions. (I'm being sincere btw, and hopefully you'll actually debate with people instead of stick your fingers in your ears, because I'm getting tired of that act, too) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 Best part of that whole article was the point in which Green Party members are being encouraged to sell their party down the river in order to support the Dems efforts to oust Bush. Keep hope for a legitimate 3rd party alive, Greenies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2003 If Big Media were to report that the Confederate Brothers of the South, or Black Chopper Watchers were taking up the side of President Bush to defeat the future Dem. nominee, it would be the same thing, although I'm sure there would be some "liberal media painting Bush with these extremists" shouting going on. Won't happen, because they'll all throw their support behind Buchanan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted October 3, 2003 You know, there are bad parties that have actual support you should actually care about. Britain's nazi-like National Party, for example. Glad to have you back, OlympicSlam. Your game of making mountains out of molehills to jump to conclusions will be a welcome change from TheMikeSC's game of splitting hairs and pulling facts out of the ass to jump to conclusions. (I'm being sincere btw, and hopefully you'll actually debate with people instead of stick your fingers in your ears, because I'm getting tired of that act, too) Eh, not sure if I'm going to be back for good. We'll just have to wait and see if I have the time for my mountain making ....... This story interests me not so much because the Commies are backing a Dem (their goal is to defeat Bush so they OBVIOUSLY have to side with a Dem who can win) The real story within this is the amount of Socialist/Communist parties/organizations that are actually alive and kicking in the United States. We all know that Communism and Socialism are dead political ideologies so it has to be sold to the average man or women in tiny pieces under the guise of other terms like "Progressivism" "Peace and Unity" "Greens" ect. Makes you wonder how much of the Red Menace has made its way into the Democrat camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 3, 2003 You know, there are bad parties that have actual support you should actually care about. Britain's nazi-like National Party, for example. The moment they actually have something resembling power --- concerned I will become. Until that day, I'll put them in the same book as the KKK (not our beloved kkk, mind you) --- basically nothing. Glad to have you back, OlympicSlam. Your game of making mountains out of molehills to jump to conclusions will be a welcome change from TheMikeSC's game of splitting hairs and pulling facts out of the ass to jump to conclusions. And a HUGE improvement over your just pulling opinions out of your pee-hole and proclaiming them to be facts --- THEN bitching about people calling you on your rampant idiocy. (I'm being sincere btw, and hopefully you'll actually debate with people instead of stick your fingers in your ears, because I'm getting tired of that act, too) Then pull your fingers out. You don't know where those fingers have been. Apparently, in JOTW's world, "sticking fingers in ears" = disagreement. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 3, 2003 And a HUGE improvement over your just pulling opinions out of your pee-hole and proclaiming them to be facts --- THEN bitching about people calling you on your rampant idiocy. To be fair, you did the same thing when you stated as a fact that guys liking anal sex with girls had "gay tendencies." Although, to be fair once again, you eventually admitted it was just an opinion. Still, you HAVE stated opinion as fact before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 3, 2003 And a HUGE improvement over your just pulling opinions out of your pee-hole and proclaiming them to be facts --- THEN bitching about people calling you on your rampant idiocy. To be fair, you did the same thing when you stated as a fact that guys liking anal sex with girls had "gay tendencies." Although, to be fair once again, you eventually admitted it was just an opinion. Still, you HAVE stated opinion as fact before. Such as when? And guys who prefer anal sex probably do have homosexual tendencies. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2003 The moment they actually have something resembling power --- concerned I will become. They just took another seat across the pond, which gives them more power than the US' socialist/communist parties. Then pull your fingers out. You don't know where those fingers have been. At risk of turning this into another thread on homosexual tendencies, once again you refuse to even consider that you might be wrong in this matter. Certainly, popular opinion and some studies have proved otherwise. But that doesn't matter because you've already figured it out. That's the bottom line, because Mike said so! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 3, 2003 Such as when? And guys who prefer anal sex probably do have homosexual tendencies. -=Mike Once again, YOU HAVE NO PROOF. It's a baseless opinion. And I just DID name an example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2003 Wait.... Commies = Anal Sex? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2003 PINKO FAG COMMIES = ANAL SEX LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2003 Such as when? And guys who prefer anal sex probably do have homosexual tendencies. -=Mike Once again, YOU HAVE NO PROOF. It's a baseless opinion. And I just DID name an example. Well now, hold on - if a guy's with a woman, and consistently prefers ass over vagina, then there's only two possibilities: his girl's got some sort of a problem down there, or the dude has got some orientation issues to work through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 3, 2003 Well now, hold on - if a guy's with a woman, and consistently prefers ass over vagina, then there's only two possibilities: his girl's got some sort of a problem down there, or the dude has got some orientation issues to work through. Right, because anal sex is only a gay thing. Anyway, that's not what Mike said. He said if a guy likes anal sex with a woman he probably has gay tendencies. That would be a baseless opinion and not a fact. There was never mention of preferring one over the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whatitistoburn Report post Posted October 3, 2003 I think I'd be a communist if I thought that it actually work in practice. The shame is that it's a little too hard to get enough people that are geniunly interested in the idea. That's why Russia failed: they took the ideal and then placed a dictator at the top of it instead of letting the people decide. On a political scale, communism falls two places away from liberals (read: democrats), so it makes since that they'd throw their weight behind the demos. Sadly enough, years of American propaganda (read: media) have convinced Americans that communism is both evil and immoral. Oh well, so it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted October 3, 2003 (edited) The Democratic party leaning to far too the left? Nah... Dumbass. Tool. Edited October 3, 2003 by cerebus316 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2003 Source please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites