Guest Boo_Bradley Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Bret said this 10 years ago. Yawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Shortly after this, Vince lost confidence in Flair for reasons that Bret didn't know or particularly care about, and one morning before a TV taping in Saskatoon they sprung the idea on him of making him the champ. Bret, in retrospect, thinks that had it happened even a day after they planned it out, the political vultures would have had enough time to shoot it down and he never would have gotten it. Ric apologized for the relatively low quality of the matches they had. Bret didn't like Ric's here-and-there-and-everywhere psychology, but thinks he's still a hell of a worker. I can't prove what I'm about to say so take it with a grain of salt, but I heard Flair was supposed to job the title to the Ultimate Warrior originally at that very Oct. 12 show, but Warrior having his ego wanted to win the title on a PPV instead and not in Canada. So Vince said fuck it and cut a deal with Bret that if Bret renewed his contract, he would get the title, and then the Warrior left the following month and the rest is history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DR PHIL Report post Posted October 13, 2003 First of all CC, it says that someone who worked for mel phillips as a wwf ringboy raped the 12 yr-old not mel himself. I thought pat patterson was the one accused of raping mel phillips, not sure though. And yes, anyone who rapes 12 year-olds should be executed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 When Jimmy Yang started negotiating his deal, there was talk of teaming him with Tajiri. But Tajiri has gotten a push as a single since then, so who knows if that will happen. WHY...why must ALL Japanese wrestlers by default team with other Japanese wrestlers, or feud with oither Japanese wrestlers in the WWE. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 - Bret Hart did a radio interview in Toronto and said: "What could you possibly see in Ric Flair? I mean this. This is the truth. Ric Flair was the most overrated wrestler there ever was. If you've seen Ric Flair wrestle once, you've seen him wrestle a million times. He's the most uncreative, unimaginative wrestler there ever was. He was the pits. You don't know anything about wrestling if you think Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler. (Wrestling) Ric Flair was the biggest letdown of my entire career. On a scale of one-to-ten, I'd rate Ric Flair about a three. He sucks." Suddenly all the Hitman fans on the board will begin to hate Ric Flair. Sheep, all of you. Flair > Bret UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest THE MIGHTY THOR Report post Posted October 13, 2003 When Jimmy Yang started negotiating his deal, there was talk of teaming him with Tajiri. But Tajiri has gotten a push as a single since then, so who knows if that will happen. WHY...why must ALL Japanese wrestlers by default team with other Japanese wrestlers, or feud with oither Japanese wrestlers in the WWE. Why? True and why all the good workers need to go to SD , doesn't RAW need some good wrestlers too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anakin Flair 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 - Nathan Jones has been assigned to OVW, but if they care enough to make sure he goes there remains to be seen. - In addition to his eye surgery, and his contract renegotiation, Rikishi was given some time off to be with an ill family member. He has renewed his contract. Too Cool reunited at a Memphis show. Well, I know I'll sleep better knowing that they still have 2 fat, un-over samoans working there. - Certain WWE suits who don't blame the company for declining ratings are pointing their fingers at Viacom for the Spike TV switch, saying Raw/WWE wasn't heavily promoted as part of Spike TV when Viacom pushed it nationally and people haven't been able to find them. But they'll still renew with Viacom anyway. Oh, for god's sake.... Maybe it's due to the shitty product you're putting out, guys! - An 80's WWF ring boy who worked under Mel Phillips, and who is now a grown man, BUTT-raped a 12 year old boy and is in jail. Ok, I can see the obvious jokes about this. but really, why was this in the news update? Just because he was a RING RAT in the 80's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 "#3 - Shane McMahon murdered Kane on Raw. " NO!!! WWE.com's headline says that Kane's condition has been upgraded! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 It should be noted that these comments were from a DECADE ago. Ahem, already established Did you just give yourself a smart-ass comment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Keller: Do you think steroids are dangerous? Raven: No, when used moderately. I don't think anything is dangerous when used moderately. It's like you could kill yourself with antibiotics if you take too many of them. You can kill yourself with aspirin of you take too many of them. Steroids are the same way. If used intelligently, they're incredibly safe. You could get by on a small cycle off and on for 20, 30 years. Do you ever see people dropping dead in the bodybuilding community who have been around for 50 years using them? No. The only guys dropping dead are the guys who get into the diarrehetics and the really toxic sh--, but the roids aren't killing anybody. Otherwise we'd be seeing all of these 1970s bodybuilders dead now because you know they're still using sh-- off and on. You don't hear about it. Schwarzenegger is still doing fine. All the bodybuilders from Pumping Iron are still doing fine. I mean, it's one of those things that they have been given a bad name because society doesn't want you to do it. But that doesn't mean that it's definitely bad for you. Almost anything is fine for you in moderation Wildpegasus-Just wanted to note that both Mentzer brothers are dead from I believe heart attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Who is mentzer?, and what does his brothers heart attack have to do with Raven's view on steriods? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Isn't Phillips the kid that got raped by one of the WWF employees? Philips is the guy who did all sorts of strange sexual things with the ring boys. If you watch some 80s shows, he is the black ring announcer with the fro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 I was quoting myself as a way of showing it had already been established (much further up the page) that the quote was from 10 years ago. RRR: Jumped aboard the "fuck flair" train a WHILE ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 - There's an ongoing feeling that saddling Eddie with Chavo, either with the two of them feuding or as buds, is dragging Eddie down from the potential he has to get into the upper card. It was an obvious fit for them to be connected, but company insiders really think it's slowing the momentum Eddie had. It is. Eddie needs to jettison Chavo STAT. As for Raven advocating the legalization of all drugs - let's keep in mind this is coming from a guy who has said that he literally cannot remember entire portions of his life due to his substance abuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 I think what Meltzer meant earlier about the whole "Shane's leg will be broken" comment is that someone will retaliate for Shane breaking Test's leg at the house show (which I saw in person). It's strange too because the other day I was commenting on how Shane seriously needs to watch himself in the ring....someone's eventually gonna get sick of him and take him out legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 - Bret Hart did a radio interview in Toronto and said: "What could you possibly see in Ric Flair? I mean this. This is the truth. Ric Flair was the most overrated wrestler there ever was. If you've seen Ric Flair wrestle once, you've seen him wrestle a million times. He's the most uncreative, unimaginative wrestler there ever was. He was the pits. You don't know anything about wrestling if you think Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler. (Wrestling) Ric Flair was the biggest letdown of my entire career. On a scale of one-to-ten, I'd rate Ric Flair about a three. He sucks." Suddenly all the Hitman fans on the board will begin to hate Ric Flair. Sheep, all of you. Flair > Bret UYI Pah. Bret > Everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Flairs not in the same LEAGUE as Bret. Keep in mind Bret himself is no Dynamite Kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 You're right. Flair isn't in the same League as Bret. Although I think we both mean it in different ways. Flair > Bret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Bret is much better than Billington. Oh, and wrestlers who "suck" don't tend to have the great matches Flair did. Sure, from a pure in-ring standpoint Flair is overrated by some, but he didn't suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Bret is much better than Billington. Oh well then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 I can't say I could really rate Dynamite since I have only seen his WWF tag stuff with Davey Boy. Some of those comments about Flair being unimaginative are pretty funny from Bret, considering that he spent half his career doing "The 5 Moves of Doom." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Dynamite Kid > Chris Benoit > Everyone Else Ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Jumbo > Tosh > Hokuto > Lots of people > Dyno > Everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Very descriptive, Redneck. Kind of drifting away from the initial arguemnt thought - Flair vs. Hitman Props go to RVDMARK for being so easily defeated. I love that kid. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Flair and Bret are both overrated (but still good). Steve Austin is the best WWF/E wrestler ever. Chew on that~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 WWE wrestler? Yes. Using the WWE style yes he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Bret is much better than Billington. Dynamite's better than Bret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Dynamite didn't impress me and I seen those Matches with Tiger Mask and countless others in Japan..Bret was more enjoyable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I can't see how. Bret had everything Dynamite had and more. The only thing Dyno has over Hart is that he was a revolutionary worker. Bret has had a far more impressive array of good matches, with a variety of opponents (unlike DK, who outside of Davey or TM didn't really have any other great singles matches), was a much bigger star and was 10 times better on the mic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Easy conclusion to any "whose better" debate.. Bret carried Nash to a ***3/4-**** match....Has DK? Didn't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
