JHawk 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 My primary point throughout this thread was that it was not physically impossible for SNSD to note the license plate number had she been thinking clearly. That she wasn't I consider a further count against her, rather than the mitigating circumstance everyone else seems to consider it. And how not thinking clearly when she's been chased for however long it was (I think she said 20 minutes) is considered a point against her makes sense only in your won little world. News flash, Marney. SOMETIMES NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T THINK CLEARLY WHEN THEY FEEL THREATENED. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 SOMETIMES NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T THINK CLEARLY WHEN THEY FEEL THREATENED. Normal people still note license plates. My wife and I were in a hit-and-run a couple of months ago. It was an almost identical situation, come to think of it, though worse in most ways. Some guy on a highway cut in between our lane and the one on our left, deliberately smashed into the side of our car, and broke off our driver's side mirror. He then went up the nearest exit ramp (about 5 seconds away, max) while we stayed on the highway. We both got his license plate immediately even though traffic was thick (but still moving at 50-60 mph). One more time: looking at a license plate is not rocket science. It is one of the most basic and elementary rules of the road; it should be a reflex for any driver. There is no excuse for not doing it. Being scared, high on adrenaline, whatever - if you don't look at someone's license plate when he's harassing you, you're an idiot. It's just that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Hey!! Stop turning "overreacting headcase" into a insult. It isn't. Its a human reaction(thus the shaking she was going through because she got so scared. It was a overreaction though. But I still say you can't fault her for it. Now... You and JHawk continue. You guys are far more entertaining than I was earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 My primary point throughout this thread was that it was not physically impossible for SNSD to note the license plate number had she been thinking clearly. That she wasn't I consider a further count against her, rather than the mitigating circumstance everyone else seems to consider it. And how not thinking clearly when she's been chased for however long it was (I think she said 20 minutes) is considered a point against her makes sense only in your won little world. News flash, Marney. SOMETIMES NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T THINK CLEARLY WHEN THEY FEEL THREATENED. I didn't really want to get involved in this, but this post right here should sum up everything and just put an end to this nonsense. Why should there be a whole thread bashing this girl because she freaked and made a mistake...who cares we all do stupid things when we're freaked. It baffles me that we encourage and even applaud posters who needlessly attack someone they've never met because they made a mistake in a very tense situation. What's the point of this?? You can say she never should have posted a thread about it, but maybe she felt that she's been here long enough to make small talk about something odd that happened to her on this board without being attacked for such a trivial matter. Her life goes on and I doubt she'll be followed again so not getting their license plate isn't going to ruin her life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Hey!! Stop turning "overreacting headcase" into a insult. It isn't. Yes it is. Its a human reaction(thus the shaking she was going through because she got so scared. All our reactions are human reactions, by definition. That doesn't mean that no one can criticise any of them. It was a overreaction though. But I still say you can't fault her for it. And I say you're wrong, because I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 blah blah blah sweetness and light blah blah blah can't we all just get along No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Hate to disappoint you ripper, but after this post I'm going to have to continue this later tonight if I don't want to lose my job. But let me ask, Marney, what time of day was your hit and run? How well lit was the area? It's possible that at that time of day she could have looked for the license plate number and not even seen it if the license plate wasn't illuminated. She never said "I didn't try to get the license plate number." She said "We didn't get the license plate number." That could be a big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Has anyone asked the question of if there was even a license plate on the front of the car??? It's not required in some states and even then people go without them sometimes. My car doesn't have a license plate on the front because it got knocked off and I'm too lazy to put it back on. Especially since it's not required in Texas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 It was a overreaction though. But I still say you can't fault her for it. And I say you're wrong, because I have. And I say you shouldn't ... And Duck Season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Hmm. I have to admit that it sounds somewhat scary. But SNSD definetly came off as a complete and utter ditz in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 But let me ask, Marney, what time of day was your hit and run? How well lit was the area? 1820, near dusk, in Chicago. It was brighter than 0200 or later wherever SNSD is, I'm sure, but I think the fairly heavy traffic might make up for that to a degree. It's possible that... she could have looked for the license plate number and not even seen it if the license plate wasn't illuminated. Possibly, if the highway wasn't lit either. And if her headlights were off, and if the other car's rear lights had somehow been turned off. But I don't see why any of those conditions would have prevailed. If they all did, for some bizarre reason, then I guess she has a slightly better excuse. She never said "I didn't try to get the license plate number." She said "We didn't get the license plate number." That could be a big difference. True. It could be. But I think it's unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 It was a overreaction though. But I still say you can't fault her for it. And I say you're wrong, because I have. And I say you shouldn't ... And Duck Season. RABBIT SEASON! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Exactly how does the way you react after a simple car accident compare to how you react to a car full of strange men chasing you at 2 am? I'm a calm person so I wouldn't have been freaking out if it happened, but I would've been caught up in what was happening and simply forget to take note of the license plate. Also, a cop sees two cars pass him at high speeds and doesn't even call it in? Even if he was busy he should've called it in. Either he was asleep or he was no where near his car. Stopping there would've likely been enough to scare the other car off, but her friend was the driver so not stopping wasn't her call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Exactly how does the way you react after a simple car accident compare to how you react to a car full of strange men chasing you at 2 am? Here's how: both are stressful experiences. Neither negate your responsibility to act like a rational adult. Also, a cop sees two cars pass him at high speeds and doesn't even call it in? How do you know he didn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Random Hero Report post Posted October 13, 2003 lemon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justsoyouknow 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Just imagine what would happen if Marney used her powers for good... The world would be a much better place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Also, another strike to SNSD's not reacting clearly was the fact that she went through two fucking red lights, maybe three I can't remember but jeezus...her overreacting and not thinking calmly caused her to not only risk herself and her friend(s) even more but could've turned out a heck of a lot worse then it ended up. Due to her lack of rational thinking, she could've easily gotten in a crash whereas if she or her friend(s) bothered to think clearly and tell the other to stop behind the police car, none of that would've come up and she wouldn't have overreacted so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2003 Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SweetNSexyDiva Report post Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) Well, hindsight is always 20/20. There are a lot of “should haves” and “would haves” when I think back on the situation. Marney, you say nothing happened? Well maybe getting harassed and chased in the middle of the night is normal for you, but it isn’t normal for me. And yeah, I panicked. I wasn’t thinking clearly at the time. I’ve never had anything like that happen to me before and I didn’t keep control in the situation. And no, we didn’t see the license plates clearly. When they were behind us their lights were shining pretty bright in the rear-view and the back window was foggy because it was 2 am and it was cold out. And a majority of the time they were running parallel to us. When they did finally swerve to get onto another freeway it was sudden and the ramp was curved and downhill. We were going pretty quick and could barely see the plates. Sorry we didn’t handle the situation perfect like you. And no, we shouldn’t have ran red lights, but we did. All we were thinking about was trying to get away. And yeah, we should have pulled over when we saw the cop, but we were going so fast and didn’t see him until we were almost past him. And even though you are such a bad-ass that things like this don’t frighten you, it did scare me. I’ve never been put in a situation like that before and was unprepared how to handle it. And why did I post it here? People post things about their personal lives all the time. Trouble with their girlfriends, getting into accidents, getting their cars stolen… even Dames posted about his issues with life. Though the chances are slim, if this was to happen again I know better how to handle the situation. And if I am scared to go out by myself at night, why do you really care? Does it make you feel like a bigger and better person to pick on people who are more emotional than you? Do I have to wait until I get raped or worse before I have “the right” to worry? I agree, I did fuck up on how we handled the situation , but I don’t understand why you have to be such a bitch about it. I do appreciate your tips on what to do in the future... but the fact that you wasted so much time arguing why you think I'm pathetic is humorous to me. That's all I really have to say on the situation. And by all means, please feel free to continue talking smack, but I personally have better things to do with my time than to argue with you. It is funny, you say that I posted that thread because I wanted to be an attention whore, but you did the exact same thing by posting this one. Edited October 13, 2003 by SweetNSexyDiva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 (edited) Fair enough. Though the chances are slim, if this was to happen again I know better how to handle the situation... I do appreciate your tips on what to do in the future... You're welcome. And yeah, I panicked. Next time, don't. I agree, I did fuck up on how we handled the situation , but I don’t understand why you have to be such a bitch about it. It jes' comes natural to me, darlin'. you say that I posted that thread because I wanted to be an attention whore, but you did the exact same thing by posting this one. Not at all, actually. The entire thread focused on you. I posted only one thing related to me, and that was as an analogy to your experience. the fact that you wasted so much time arguing why you think I'm pathetic is humorous to me.... feel free to continue talking smack, but I personally have better things to do with my time than to argue with you I understand why you're getting so defensive, but there's really no need. I don't have much of a problem with you; it became more of an intellectual exercise after JHawk started posting. I continued arguing with him because it was fun to examine the hypotheticals. I'm satisfied with the additional details you've provided, your unqualified mea culpa, and your ungrudging and agreeable willingness to take my advice to heart. As for your melodramatic whining, in the long run, John's the one who has to deal with it, not me. What matters is that you've learned from your experience and you'll be better prepared in the future. Edited October 14, 2003 by Cancer Marney Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I don't have much of a problem with you; it became more of an intellectual exercise after JHawk started posting. Hey, is that a swipe at me and Ripper? It's not our fault we're dumb... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 No, it was just that we were talking about different things. JHawk introduced more details and (albeit secondhand) testimony, so we were better able to proceed along more interesting and factual lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Car stories are fun. I had one where some dick was flashing his high beams at me when I was going down a side street, so naturally, being the moron that I am, I tried to let him pass. He slows down too. He pulls up next to me and yells, "GET THE GUN!!!" And then I realized it was one of my dickhead friends. Ah hahahhahahhaa!!!!!! ... Duck season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Tyler seems to lead a lame life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 RABBIT SEASON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I had a similar situation happen to me a few months ago. I was leaving a friend's house close to 1:00 in the morning, and driving up a major road (Rt. 1, for those curious), which would take me to the interstate. I always drive in the right lane on Rt. 1 out of habit, since people are *always* making left turns. Anyway, I pulled up to a stoplight where there was already a white Jeep Cherokee in the left lane. He started revving his engine like he wanted to race me, or thought I wanted to race him. The light turned green, and I went; while I wasn't trying to race him, I did get off to a faster start than he did. Then things got weird. He pulled up beside me, then started drifting over into my lane. I slowed down, at which point he went back into his own lane. Also at this point, I took note of the license plate and pulled my cell phone off my belt. He did the same thing again, so I backed off again, then shot past him when he drifted back into his own lane (the perk of 255 hp). I was very close to the interstate exit at this point, so I got onto it. The Jeep didn't follow, but if he had, I was dialing the police and reporting his tag number. The windows were tinted quite dark, so I never could tell how many people were in the Jeep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 *Puts on the Elmer Fudd hat and blows all you wabbits and ducks away* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 You're insufferable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 You're insufferable. Me? Insufferable? Depends on the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
