Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Here are some bits from the Observer regarding TNA... -Latest on the 11/30 ppv is that the working idea now is to do it from the Nashville Fairgrounds. The reason is that it's cheaper and they only have to fill up 1300 seats. Hogan is against doing it in such a small venue. The company has had talks with The Orleans in Las Vegas, which has a 7000 seat arena, but nothing is concrete yet. The Nashville Auditorium which houses 9000 has also been talked about. -The only other match talked about for 11/30 is doing a second Ultimate X match involving AJ Styles, Michael Shane, and Chris Sabin. The idea is after Styles loses the NWA title to Jarrett on 10/22, barring changes, he'll be made into the star of the X division to give it more marquee power. -The storyline they are working on for Hogan besides playing off of Bash at the Beach 2000 is that he is coming back for his childhood dream of winning the NWA title, the biggest major title he has never held. -They are hoping to get Sting and Piper on the show, but neither deal is finalized and Randy Savage has been seriously talked about but since he has heat with Hogan, it doesn't stand much of a chance. -There was more Dutch Mantel influence on the show this week. The 10/15 show is said to be the last show with Russo and Gilberti writing the original draft, which Mantel, Jarrett, and Scott D'Amore then edit. Starting 10/22, Mantel is supposed to be the main writer with Jarrett as his editor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Thanks. I don't know what to think about AJ going back to the X division. On one hand it does make it seem that the X title is equal to the World and he can put on awesome matches again with the guys in it. On the other hand it could be looked at as he is being pushed back down. I can't believe they would actually consider holding the 11/30 ppv at the Nashville Fairgrounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 I don't hate the idea of putting Styles in the X division. Mainly because he's already pinned all the heavyweights...and anything they do with him there will have already been done. In fact...I think this is exactly how they should use Styles, spending half a year in one then going back to the other for the next half to keep it fresh. Think about it...TNA hasn't had Styles vs. Sabin, Shane, Daniels, Juvi, Dutt...there's a bunch of fresh and good matchups to tackle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 I should add that Styles is pretty much the only cruiserweight that consistently gets longer matches regardless of the division he's in. That's a plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 18, 2003 I think overall it would be good b/c it would give a rub to the next gen X Division guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 I hate it because the X division matches never get the time to be real wrestling matches, and usually just involve 6 guys doing every spot they can in 10 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 AND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 When Styles was in the X division his matches got time...and weren't 6 man messes either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Max Peter David Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Hmmm.... putting Styles back in the X-Division while Piper, Sting, Jarrett and Hogan plague the main event scene? Sigh... At least Styles will be in some good matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Hmmm.... putting Styles back in the X-Division while Piper, Sting, Jarrett and Hogan plague the main event scene? Sigh... At least Styles will be in some good matches. That just made me think of something: how long until Piper fights Hogan for the NWA title? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Max Peter David Report post Posted October 18, 2003 That just made me think of something: how long until Piper fights Hogan for the NWA title? Sadly, probably not too long after Hogan's title win. I'm more worried about Hogan vs. Rhodes. My god.... TNA = WCW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Hmmm.... putting Styles back in the X-Division while Piper, Sting, Jarrett and Hogan plague the main event scene? Sigh... At least Styles will be in some good matches. What the hell is wrong with Sting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Sting, when he can be arsed can be pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2003 Nothing is wrong with Sting. He is just following the internet cliche of "IF YOU ARE OLDER THAN 34 AND YOU WRESTLE, YOU SUCK" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 I never got the 'Sting doesn't love wrestling anymore' thing in WCW late 2000, when he feuded with Jarrett. Every match Sting had in that feud he was on fire. I've never seen Sting phone in a performance. Even his TNA match he performed better than I thought he would. IMHO he's easily one of the great wrestlers of the modern era and would make an awesome addition to TNA's regular cast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 19, 2003 Nothing is wrong with Sting. He is just following the internet cliche of "IF YOU ARE OLDER THAN 34 AND YOU WRESTLE, YOU SUCK" The why do most IWC suck Booker T and Benoit's cock? Both are over 34. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 Because they're underpushed. If Booker or Benoit had been on top of the WWE for a decade or so, they'd ask for their blood too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 Basically. Mick Foley is the only person that I can think of that is loved on the 'net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 19, 2003 Ric Flair isn't Loved? Benoit isn't Loved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Max Peter David Report post Posted October 19, 2003 When's the last time you saw Sting work? (Besides his match in TNA where he was in a tag match, his weaknesses totally covered up. The last Sting match I saw was with Flair on the last Nitro, and the match was horrendous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 So we're already bitching about a main event scene with Piper, Hogan and Sting...even though they have a combined ZERO singles matches in TNA and Piper and Sting have appeared a total of roughly 5 times? Ok... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 Flair, to an extent. People complain when he has a match sometimes, and sometimes not. And like tommy said, Benoit is only the IWC's ass pal because he hasn't had a title yet. Or been on top for a long time. And BPS, its the American way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Max Peter David Report post Posted October 19, 2003 So we're already bitching about a main event scene with Piper, Hogan and Sting...even though they have a combined ZERO singles matches in TNA and Piper and Sting have appeared a total of roughly 5 times? Ok... You just KNOW its going to happen. With them talking about putting Styles back in the X-Division, who's left? Raven's already been shafted, and made Jarrett's bitch, and Styles is about to do the same. And like tommy said, Benoit is only the IWC's ass pal because he hasn't had a title yet. Or been on top for a long time. That's not true at all (for me at least). I still mark out for HBK and Ric Flair. If their workrate is consistent, I'm with them, despite their age or how long they've been on top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 "You just KNOW its going to happen." But I really don't. Piper hasn't stepped into the ring. Sting doesn't want to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 When's the last time you saw Sting work? (Besides his match in TNA where he was in a tag match, his weaknesses totally covered up. The last Sting match I saw was with Flair on the last Nitro, and the match was horrendous. I saw him on the WWA PPV, and he managed to make a Lex Luger match slightly entertaining. Keep in mind that match, the Flair match from Nitro, and the TNA match all took place after Sting hadn't been an active wrestler for a few months. I still think Sting can be a credible, entertaining main eventer for any organisation. And isn't Sting contracted for three more appearances anyway? Or was that just an option? I always thought he'd come back because he always talked about how Jerry Jarrett gave him his big break in the business, so he felt like he owed him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Max Peter David Report post Posted October 19, 2003 (edited) Piper hasn't stepped into the ring. What's stopping him? He wrestled Hogan earlier this year, he won't hesitate to do it again. Sting doesn't want to come back. The Observer definatly implied they were in negotiations. Maybe I'm being to harsh on TNA's booking skills, but WWE has made me really negative towards veterans, and the fact that Dusty Rhodes is a top contender to the NWA Title doesn't ease my suspicions. Edited October 19, 2003 by Max Peter David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Thread Killer 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 "...the fact that Dusty Rhodes is a top contender to the NWA Title..." I disagree. Rhodes was NEVER pushed as a "top contender." The whole point of the angle was that he wasn't supposed to get that shot, and the only reason he got it was because Dusty has been playing mind games with Styles for weeks now, as a mentor type figure, trying to get him to turn face and leave Russo. Styles gave Dusty the shot, just so he could get his hands on him. Russo forbid Styles to do this, sewing the seeds of dissention between Styles and Russo, which paid off this past week when Jarrett attacked Russo, and Styles wouldn't save him. In a way, it showed that Dusty's mind games were working, since Russo could no longer control his puppet. They played this angle out great, even going so far as to have Russo always carrying the belt, and wearing it himself...and when Dusty started screwing with AJ's head, Styles started carrying the belt himself. Dusty HIMSELF said that he didn't deserve the shot...but if Styles was offering, he'd take it. This made Jarrett angry, which caused him to go on his whole "all veterans are selfish and out just for themselves speech" which then led into the attack on Hogan. Jarrett explained this past week that it was Dusty taking the match Styles offered him that made him realize that he had to attack Hogan. It was all planned out in advance, and sold perfectly by Styles, Russo, Rhodes and Jarrett, and put over by Tenay and West. You see, I know all this because I actually watch the show. I don't make judgements on something I've never seen, from something I saw on the net. I'm funny like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2003 The Dusty Rhodes thing and how it affected the major players (Jarrett/Russo/AJ) is just a small example why TNA's storylines are light years ahead of the WWE. They're complex, but still lead to a simple payoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted October 19, 2003 When's the last time you saw Sting work? (Besides his match in TNA where he was in a tag match, his weaknesses totally covered up. Excuses, excuses. The match was good. Sting pulled his weight. Eat it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
