Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 21, 2003 During the RVD/Storm vs. Jericho/Steiner match, RVD and Jericho blew a spot involving RVD's "miss kick, spin kick" move. Now, was this RVD's fault or was it Jericho's mishap? The usually laid back RVD seemed really embarrassed/pissed at himself; for instance, he shouted, "SHIT!" Is RVD's slopiness, and in particular blown spots like these, the reason why WWE has no faith in pushing RVD into the upper echelon ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 He fucked up on his spin kick, whoop dee doo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted October 21, 2003 I noticed it, but that's because I look for these things. Casual viewers don't really give a shit (and they shouldn't). It wasn't a badly blown spot, it was just a blown spot. Big deal. It happens to even the best wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 A badly blown spot is something that either kills someone or exposes the business. A flailing leg that Jericho never even sells as coming close is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 the fans didn't seem to mind for the most part. A missed spot my slightly taint a match, but it doesn' take the match from being a good match to a stinker. Blown spots on Raw are usually more screamed about since the matches themselves are usually only 5mins. I mean a 15min match with a blown spot is hardly noticeable or worth bringing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 It honestly looked more like trying to kick Jericho away and failing. Since Jericho just proceeded unscathed it looked like nothing. Of course...it's RVD...so here's the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 It honestly looked more like trying to kick Jericho away and failing. Since Jericho just proceeded unscathed it looked like nothing. Of course...it's RVD...so here's the thread. My thoughts exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 I didn't think it was a botched spot until I read it here. Something like that is definitely not the reason RVD isn't pushed. People have done worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 21, 2003 This is just utterly dumb right here...he misses a spot, which wasn't like it disrupted the flow or anything... A badly botch spot would be brock landing on his head at Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 Or most Jeff Hardy matches. I didn't even notice it so it couldn't have been a badly botched spot. If any spots were nearly blown it was that Trish/Victoria/Steven shoulder bomb that nearly caused Trish's head to fly off. I would say that was a botched spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 21, 2003 besides, more realistic if he misses a kick anyways...not all kicks in a fight hit anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 21, 2003 Eh. It wasn't as bad as Batista fucking up one of the two moves he knows. It really depends in the WWF. Some people like Mark Henry can continually fuck up every move in the book and not have to worry. I mean Rodney Mack never got depushed for almost killing Al Snow with a tiger bomb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 21, 2003 I've barely watched wrestling since last February, but for whatever reason, I actually saw ^that match. Sick as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 21, 2003 A badly blown spot is something that either kills someone or exposes the business. A flailing leg that Jericho never even sells as coming close is not. I'm glad someone here knew that difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 Miscommunication. RVD was going for the "missed enzugiri/connected reverse thrust kick", but Jericho sold the enzugiri and RVD was unprepared for it, so the rest of the spot ended up botched. They covered up as best as they could, but it still came off as a little awkward. No big loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 Ahem, Jericho fucked up, he is the one who didn't sell the kick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 No, this wasn't close enough to sell. Jericho did the right thing, and as a result some people never even cuaght that RVD tried that move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 I remember one time in WCW, I think Benoit and Malenko were wrestling, and Benoit missed some punches by a mile. Immediately, they pretended they had camera problems or something... I can't remember much. Anyone know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 I remember one time in WCW, I think Benoit and Malenko were wrestling, and Benoit missed some punches by a mile. Immediately, they pretended they had camera problems or something... I can't remember much. Anyone know? Probably not. This is Benoit screwing up, so people wouldn't remember such a thing. You must have dreamed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 I remember one time in WCW, I think Benoit and Malenko were wrestling, and Benoit missed some punches by a mile. Immediately, they pretended they had camera problems or something... I can't remember much. Anyone know? Probably not. This is Benoit screwing up, so people wouldn't remember such a thing. You must have dreamed it. I remember I dreamed that time that he forgot to roll out of the way of a frog splash from RVD. I was like. "How, Beniots lucky. That could have hurt him and RVD" Everyone else: "Why isn't RVD still selling the shoulder. He sucks so bad...blahblahblahblahblahblah." Weird dream. Must've been that Chinese food. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2003 It honestly looked more like trying to kick Jericho away and failing. Since Jericho just proceeded unscathed it looked like nothing. Of course...it's RVD...so here's the thread. My thoughts exactly. Yep. IMO they should include more "fake" blown spots, so it might not look as obviously when they really botch one. And a botched spot on a minor move where there's no connection and the wrestler doesn't react, and the match flow isn't broken is ok. When the wrestler doesn't sell on a major move, then realizes she should have and falls in the wrong direction...like Jackie Gayda did in the legendary match from hell, that's another story all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
