bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 Yea- Tina looks amazing the opening montage. She was looking fine all last night. I honestly have not seen much MadTV. What I've seen I have never liked. And they fired Artie Lange- he rocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Unwritten Religion Report post Posted November 10, 2003 Yea- Tina looks amazing the opening montage. She was looking fine all last night. I don't know, After looking at her with out her glasses, I find her more sexy that way. I swear, when I saw her I thought it was a Model or a new cast member. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingDeacon 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 Yeah, Bob I think all that shit sucked. Seriously, I don't get it. I simply don't. I think Weekend Update is one of the most awful parts of the show. It's like they're just going out of their way to be hip and political and they're just coming up with the obvious jokes and a sort of "look at how edgy and funny we are" attitude. About the only episode I've seen that I've liked since '99 was the first time Jack Black hosted. I honestly admit that I've hardly watched it at all last year or this year because I just haven't been enthused for it, but I'll watch it next week. I'll tape it since I'll be out of town Saturday night, but I'll tape it, watch it and we can compare notes. I really like Alec Baldwin as a host so that might bode well. I hate to talk shit when I haven't watched it much lately, so I'll give it another chance and see what I think now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 Yeah, Bob I think all that shit sucked. Even Census Taker? I can't change your opinion so I guess it's just I like one thing and you like the other. I think Weekend Update is one of the most awful parts of the show. It's like they're just going out of their way to be hip and political and they're just coming up with the obvious jokes and a sort of "look at how edgy and funny we are" attitude. Well Saturday Night Live is supposed to be hip. They're supposed to be on top of everything. Always right there to spoof and lampoon. I think the jokes have been the Fallon-Fey era's strongpoints. If they didn't have a crappy commentator every week then it would be much better. While Tina's Bush hating some times goes from making fun to downright hatred- it's still funny. Except for when Tina uses the word cooter (which she hasn't in a long time) I don't think WU is trying to push the boundaries at all and it's one thing I wish they would do more often. While Norm Macdonald wasn't afraid to rile up the crowd a bit and truly be mean with his jokes- I think that occasionaly Tina and Jimmy are too scared to offend and hold back. Here's an example: After 9.11 Tracy Morgan did a bit on how he enjoys racial profiling now that it's on Muslim people. It was hilarious and the crowd loved it and cheered- but it got cut. In Entertainment Weekly Tina said she cut it cause "The crowd laughed for the wrong reasons." They ended up airing the skit on the live show and it was altered a bit and some of the anti-Muslim humour was taken out. It wasn't as funny. In Norm's heyday this would not have happened. In fact the few times Norm got censored were stuff that was really really pushing it. I think that's one of the reasons why I loved the Rod Roddy jokes. Too many times Fallon and Fey have had the chances to be assholes and mock something that most people wouldn't- and they had passed on it. But here they were mocking a guy's death- and it was hilarious. I wish they would do more of that. About the only episode I've seen that I've liked since '99 was the first time Jack Black hosted. The Jack Black show was a good show. People overrate the Birthday Show skit and it had a Lovers but it was a good solid show. I honestly admit that I've hardly watched it at all last year or this year because I just haven't been enthused for it, but I'll watch it next week. I'll tape it since I'll be out of town Saturday night, but I'll tape it, watch it and we can compare notes. That sounds good. I enjoy going back and forth with YNA over his SNL reviews and I love discussing any and all things SNL. Last season SNL was in a mini-slump and turned it around for good when a frequent hoster hosted and I hope the same happens this time. Alec should be a lot easier to write for then Andy Roddick. Another thing about the Tina hating- Tina can only do so much about the show. She, along with Dennis McNichols is the head writer/s of SNL. That basically means that she supervises the writing of skits and has a greater voice in what goes on the air. But in the end it's all up to Lorne. I've been to SNL dress rehearsals where they have cut some amazing skits. Sometimes the material could be well written but the cast member may not be the right one to perform it. It's like WWE and Vince McMahon. While other people may be influencing him one way or the other- you blame him when it's bad and you praise him when it's good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Unwritten Religion Report post Posted November 10, 2003 To be honest with you, I think Tina Fey is killing SNL. I know you don't agree, But I can't find anything funny on that show anymore( That's why I watch Mad Tv, which is owning SNL right now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 Again- you don't really know if it's Tina's fault. A lot of people forget that there are TWO head writers and an executive producer. While he may not have a scar or 4 million dollars- Dennis McNichols is a head writer too and deserves some of the flak if you hate the show and praise if you love the show. And in the end- if Lorne wants to do a skit where Horatio and Jimmy sit there and giggle- he will. All Tina can do is try to tweak it as best as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingDeacon 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 You kind of got at what I was trying to say, Bob. WU is trying to act all hip and edgy, but they're really not. Not when compared to stuff like what Norm and Miller used to do. It's like they're the neardy kid trying to act cool and tough. Actually, Census Taker is about the only one out of that list I did kind of like. Walken is always gold, because they know how to write for him and he knows how to play off what they give him perfectly. I also liked the "Who Wants to Marry an 11,000-aire" bit when Ben Affleck hosted. He totally made that one with the character he came up with. I'm trying to think of some other stuff I did like from the past few years. Well, "gay speed skating Hitler" is just funny on principal alone. "My wife, she's a bobcat." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 You kind of got at what I was trying to say, Bob. WU is trying to act all hip and edgy, but they're really not. Not when compared to stuff like what Norm and Miller used to do. It's like they're the neardy kid trying to act cool and tough. Norm is my personal hero etc and Fallon and Fey are nowhere near his greatness. I do like them better then Miller. Actually, Census Taker is about the only one out of that list I did kind of like. Walken is always gold, because they know how to write for him and he knows how to play off what they give him perfectly. The way Walken acts- his mere presence is funny. That's why all his shows seem to rock. The Walken/Agulera is one of my favourite and one of the most beloved SNL shows. I also liked the "Who Wants to Marry an 11,000-aire" bit when Ben Affleck hosted. He totally made that one with the character he came up with. I'm trying to think of some other stuff I did like from the past few years. Well, "gay speed skating Hitler" is just funny on principal alone. "They don't hate you cause you're gay. They hate you cause you're Hitler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 • Wake-Up Wakefield I don't know why, but I have a soft spot for these skits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrestlingDeacon 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2003 Thought of another one, I really like the Conan show too. Moleculo and the one hit wonder thing had me rolling and you could kind of see Conan's brand of humor on everything. When SNL gets someone they know how to write for like Walken or someone like Black and Conan who can pitch in and help create their own sketches then the show comes off as pretty good for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted November 10, 2003 And they fired Artie Lange- he rocks. But he was knee deep in a cocaine habbit at the time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDH257 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 I didn't hate this week's show as much as everybody else, but it was mediocure at best. I liked Action News. Jock Talk, the Monologue, Update, and The Governess were okay. I was suprised there was no Jarrod's room skit, they usually do it whenever the host can pass for college age. I couldn't enjoy the Martha/Barbra skit because I kept thinking about how it woud be better with Cherri Oteri and Ana Gastyer. I know Ana still lived in NY last year, so I couldn't believe they didn't bring her back for a Martha Stewart skit. Why is everybody suprised at how good Tina looks? I figured we all realized she was hot. BTW, I love Tina's glasses. If she didn't wear them, not wearing them wouldn't be as sexy. I'm really excited about next week. I always look forward to Alec Baldwin/John Goodman shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
