BifEverchad 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Would it have hurt them to say something or have a graphic for Mike Lockwood? He worked for that company from 1999 - 2003, he held the Tag Team Titles, the European Title, the Cruiserweight Title and most memorable, the Hardcore Title. JR and the King could have at least acknowledged his passing. Hopefully they'll do something or at least, SAY something on SmackDown! Thursday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Will this be like Thesz where the backlash from them not doing it makes them doing it thus making it look even cheaper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PowerPB13 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 What the hell does WWE care about Mike Lockwood? That didn't surprise me one bit. Just another name on the long list of people whose blood is on Vince McMahon's hands. -Patrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted November 11, 2003 No,Who fuckin cares? Im sick of some of you whinning about Crash not being talked about.Wait till SD come around since he was a SD Wrestler,Damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 WWE does a lot of fucked up things, but geez that was just cold to ignore him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 I guess this means there's no career retrospective on this week's Confidential then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 What the hell does WWE care about Mike Lockwood? That didn't surprise me one bit. Just another name on the long list of people whose blood is on Vince McMahon's hands. -Patrick How so? Crash did not die while under Vince's employment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JRE Report post Posted November 11, 2003 I'm quite sure they'll do it on Smackdown. Use it as a tool to solidify the brand split more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 11, 2003 What the hell does WWE care about Mike Lockwood? That didn't surprise me one bit. Just another name on the long list of people whose blood is on Vince McMahon's hands. -Patrick Jesus Christ. "Another in the long list..." I've known you for a while now, PB (I remember you from AOL) and I never thought you were this thoroughly out of touch with reality. Vince didn't kill anybody. He didn't kill Owen. Nobody else's death is his fault. This is like blaming a record company for the deaths of Jimi Hendrix et al. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BifEverchad 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 No,Who fuckin cares? Im sick of some of you whinning about Crash not being talked about.Wait till SD come around since he was a SD Wrestler,Damn. I care. Also, I'm not whining, I'm just relaying a topic on his passing and showing how WWE didn't even acknowledge Crash's DEATH. He was a former employee. It doesnt matter what "brand" he was on anyways. He last wrestled on SmackDown!, yes. But that shouldn't make ANY difference. He was still a former WWE WRESTLER. (EX) Mr.Perfect died and was acknowledged on BOTH brands, even though he was last on the "RAW Brand". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Vince didn't kill anybody. He didn't kill Owen. Nobody else's death is his fault. It was Vince's idea for Owen to do the stunt. He should have known what the risks were. Had he not told Owen to go through with it, Owen would still be alive. Therefore I hold Vince accountable for what happened. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Owen could've said no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 He was supposed to win the Intercontinental title in that match at Over the Edge, and that's how they sweetened him into going along though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 If Owen was that scared about it he could've said no. Vince trusted the wrong people- He didn't kill Owen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Steven Richards b Rico - Richards worked as a face and dedicated the match to "his best friend" Crash Holly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 They dangled the title in front of him. They didn't hold a gun to his head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Jesus Christ. "Another in the long list..." I've known you for a while now, PB (I remember you from AOL) and I never thought you were this thoroughly out of touch with reality. Here, some of his gems that indicate so: Even the least of TNA shows is better than your average WWE show nowadays. Tonight on Confidential: The Suck-Up-To-Bret Tour 2003-4 continues as WWE pays tribute to Stu Hart.... Depends on how much they feel like sucking up to Bret this week. Since when does anything in WWE have a point? Since never. I am not permitted to enjoy WWE's product under any circumstances. Poll: How will you spend your spare time now that the U.S. wrestling scene is officially deceased? ... AT LEAST IT'S NOT TRIPLE H. For that reason and that reason only, TNA will ALWAYS be better than WWE. Okay, anyone who orders No Mercy(or any WWE PPV for that matter) is: a) an idiot b) a retard c) insane Two days later... Hey, this PPV sounded really good. Will need to get the tape of it. I'll stick to my own group: The "Anything But WWE" group. Can't the guy just TAKE A FUCKING VACATION? Take a plane trip...preferably a plane with a bomb ... ...good?...Raw is not good...Raw is never good... "Raw" and "great night" do not belong in the same subject line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 It was Vince's idea for Owen to do the stunt. He should have known what the risks were. Had he not told Owen to go through with it, Owen would still be alive. Therefore I hold Vince accountable for what happened. Simple as that. I thought it was Russo's idea. Doesn't matter either way. It was an accident. Sting came down from the rafters every week and nothing happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 I don't know how'd they handle doing a tribute to Crash, when they had the Women's Title program (Molly/Lita) so entrenched in the show. You'd have to keep within kayfabe, and pull Molly from the show. From the SK rant... And wouldn’t this have been a good point to note that Molly’s storyline cousin, Crash Holly, is dead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 "I am responsible for Owen Hart's death" - Vince McMahon, in court (credit: Lord of the Ring, Stu Hart's bio) C'mon, he badmouthed HHH, of course they're not going to recognize his life and death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Maybe Gershwitz wouldn't alot time for it. It's pretty sad that no one seemed to be wearing an arm band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Vince didn't kill anybody. He didn't kill Owen. Nobody else's death is his fault. It was Vince's idea for Owen to do the stunt. He should have known what the risks were. Had he not told Owen to go through with it, Owen would still be alive. Therefore I hold Vince accountable for what happened. Simple as that. Owen said yes. Responsibility belongs to him. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Vince admitted responsibility. I just posted it. Why is there even a debate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Perhaps they are afraid that someone will start to fucking CARE and start to take notice about what's going on if they have an "In Memory" thing before every show. With the way WWE thinks, that could be it if they don't say anything about the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Vince admitted responsibility. I just posted it. Why is there even a debate? If I said I killed Owen Hart, does that make it true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 If you said it in court when you were directly involved with the incident and employed Owen... sure. But you didn't. So shut-the-fuck-up and quit being a smartass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Wasn't Crash Holly on RAW once? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted November 11, 2003 I think real deaths take away from their soap opera direction. You can't go giving somebody a memorial and then kill/seriously injure somebody in the stroyline right after. I'm not agreeing with it...just giving an idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 Wasn't Crash Holly on RAW once? No, the roster split has always been around, and he was always on Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2003 No- Crash was drafted to RAW and then jumped to SD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
