Tully316 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 I've had this theory that 10 years of good groundbreaking music is followed by 10 years of crap. Now, this is not absolute, but let me see if I can explain it. 1965 - 1975: Stones, Beatles, Zeppelin, Motown (GOOD) 1975 - 1985: Disco, New Wave, etc. (CRAP) 1985 - 1995: G'n R, U2, Nirvana, Grunge/Alt rock, 2pac (GOOD) 1995 - 2005: Boy Bands, pop punk, weak rap (CRAP) Granted, there are some good music in the crap periods (Pink Floyd), but the 65-75 and 85-95 periods had some absolutely GREAT music. Thoughts?
Guest Plushy Al Logan Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 (edited) 1975 - 1985: Disco, New Wave, etc. (CRAP) I disagree here. What about Black sabbath, Van Halen, AC/DC, and Disco does not suck. 1985 - 1995: G'n R, U2, Nirvana, Grunge/Alt rock, 2pac (GOOD) What is Alternative anyway? The only good Grunge ACT was Pearl Jam. Rap is crap. What about Hair bands, and this was also the era of good Metallica. David Lee Roth > Kurt Cobain Lita ford>Tawny Kitaen>Bret Michaels>Any '80's groupie>Vince Neil>Courtney Love Yes, I feind Vince Neil more attractive than Counrtney Love, and I'm not even gay. I have news for you. Eddie Vedder ripped off David Coverdale, who in turn ripped off Robert Plant who wasn't even that great live any way. So... Coverdale>Hagar>Plant>Vedder Edited November 18, 2003 by Plushy Al Logan
Zorin Industries Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 1975 - 1985: Disco, New Wave, etc. (CRAP) No way, there was some truly ground breaking and brilliant albums coming out at this time, for example, Bowie's Berlin Trilogy
nl5xsk1 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 Not to jump on the bandwagon, but your post lost a ton of credibility from me when you said that 85-95 was better than 75-85. The only era worse than 85-95 was 95-present. I'll take punk rock, hardcore, the beginning of the metal scene, AC/DC at their best, and new wave over 2Pac, grunge, and all the other crap that existed in the late 80s & early 90s.
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 I have news for you. Eddie Vedder ripped off David Coverdale, who in turn ripped off Robert Plant who wasn't even that great live any way. So... Coverdale>Hagar>Plant>Vedder Whaaaaaaat? I get the "Coverdale ripping off Page" part, but "Vedder ripping off Coverdale"? Whuh?
Edwin MacPhisto Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 It's a pretty silly theory. There's so much music in every era that you're never going to find some arbitrary 10 years that blow. I like what happened in the second half of the 90's a lot more than what happened in the early 90's, for what it's worth.
haVoc Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 Vedder ripped off Morrison, not Plant.
godthedog Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 late 80s/early 90s had the pixies, r.e.m., rage against the machine, ween, nine inch nails, beastie boys, portishead, liz phair, tori amos, smashing pumpkins, bjork, jeff buckley, and sonic youth. so why do all the grunge-haters dwell on the grunge in the early 90s when there was so much other stuff going on? and i find it funny that the ENTIRE PUNK MOVEMENT got passed over.
Tully316 Posted November 18, 2003 Author Report Posted November 18, 2003 Now I'll be the first to admit that some very good music came during the decades i labeled as "crap", but I was looking at some of the great albums that came out during those "good" decades. For instance: some have said that 85-95 is crap, but look at the great albums that came out during that timeframe: GnR - Appetite for Destruction, UYI 1 & 2 U2 - Joshua Tree, Rattle and Hum, Achtung baby Pearl Jam - Ten Nirvana - Nevermind Counting Crows - August and Everything After Singles soundtrack PE - Fear of a Black Planet Smashing pumpkins - Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie Now I loved alot of thigns that came out between 75-85 like Aerosmith, Cars, Eagles and such, but I think that more "defining" or "landmark" albums came out during the good decades I labeled. Anyways, just one man's opinion.
Nighthawk Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 It's a pretty silly theory. There's so much music in every era that you're never going to find some arbitrary 10 years that blow. That's what I would have said.
Guest Choken One Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 late 80s/early 90s had the pixies, r.e.m., rage against the machine, ween, nine inch nails, beastie boys, portishead, liz phair, tori amos, smashing pumpkins, bjork, jeff buckley, and sonic youth. so why do all the grunge-haters dwell on the grunge in the early 90s when there was so much other stuff going on? and i find it funny that the ENTIRE PUNK MOVEMENT got passed over. The real punk movement lasted for about 4 weeks in 1977 and then it just became another fashion statement like Disco.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 I've had Portishead on the brain too. Are they ever coming out with anything else, or is Beth Gibbons just going to keep doing mediocre work with Rustin Man? I'd heard rumblings about a new album for the beginning of this year, but that obviously didn't happen.
godthedog Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 i've heard tell that gibbons & darrow have been on rocky ground for years, and they seemed to have been pretty burned out by the time their second album came out. so i wouldn't expect a new album from them in the next...well, ever.
Guest Doyo Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 1975 - 1985: Disco, New Wave, etc. (CRAP) , people think of disco and the early mtv videos with the weird hair and automatically label this period as crap, but you had Rush, Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, AC/DC, Van Halen, Cheap Trick, Queen, Heart, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, The Police, Blondie, Talking Heads, Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, Billy Joel, Elton John, John Mellencamp, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams Jr, Bob Marley, Metallica, Rainbow, Dio, U2, R.E.M., Depeche Mode, , Bob Seger, Steve Miller, Prince, The Cars, David Bowie, Elvis Costello, solo stuff from the Beatles members, Joe Jackson, Pretenders....... And there was also the rise of rap, punk, techno and industrial music. I think that is a major problem of today - there are no new styles of music being invented.
PsychoDriver Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 I agree with one thing, 95 to Present is probably the weakest of all those eras (not to say good music hasn't been made in that time peroid, just not enough of it when in comparison to the others)
WrestlingDeacon Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 Landmark albums that came out between 1975-1985. Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen Born in the USA by Springsteen The Clash's self title debut and London Calling Blood on the Tracks by Bob Dylan Songs in the Key of Life by Stevie Wonder Frampton Comes Alive Live Bullet by Bob Seger Captain Fantastic and the Dirt Brown Cowboy by Elton John Never Mind the Bullocks by the Sex Pistols Off the Wall, Beat it and Thriller by Michael Jackson Purple Rain by Prince Rumours by Fleetwood Mac My Aim is True by Elvis Costello Synchronisty by the Police Hotel California by the Eagles Sports by Huey Lewis and the News The Last Waltz by the Band Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits The Smiths self titles debut The Stranger by Billy Joel Bat Out of Hell by Meatloaf I can go on...
Perfxion Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 This theory is so flawed because alot of crap came out in the good time peroids, and alot of good came out in the Bad time peroids. This whole thing is a crock of shit. You can name so many good albums to come out all over this time peroid and this only looks at what, heavy/Alt. rock? Because other genres existed. It may not be maystream, but alot of good comes out all over the place. Just because your style of rock isn't big, doesn't mean that era sucks(IE: right now).
spiny norman Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 Also, according to this, 1955-1965 must have been pretty bad. But yes, I disagree totally. Early 80s was a great time for music, much better than the early 90s. How sick are you, to think New Wave is crap!? My god, man.
PLAGIARISM! Posted November 20, 2003 Report Posted November 20, 2003 Er, interesting theory... There's always been good music out there, you just have to look. And to some extent, that's always been the case, despite what most modern documentation of musical history would have us believe.
Guest Plushy Al Logan Posted November 20, 2003 Report Posted November 20, 2003 I have news for you. Eddie Vedder ripped off David Coverdale, who in turn ripped off Robert Plant who wasn't even that great live any way. So... Coverdale>Hagar>Plant>Vedder Whaaaaaaat? I get the "Coverdale ripping off Page" part, but "Vedder ripping off Coverdale"? Whuh? I first heard Pearl Jam when I was seven or eight. To me I honestly thought that Coverdale stopped doing the Tarzan yell.
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