FF X-2 thread

[Guest Kamui]

You and every other two-bit anime elitist I've ever met

Y'know, calling somenoe ELSE an elitist just because they disagreed with an opinion on a videogame is pretty ironic.

 

-Duo

Usually, I'd consider someone who sterotypes another person to be an elitist, but maybe that's just me.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

You and every other two-bit anime elitist I've ever met

Y'know, calling somenoe ELSE an elitist just because they disagreed with an opinion on a videogame is pretty ironic.

 

-Duo

Usually, I'd consider someone who sterotypes another person to be an elitist, but maybe that's just me.

**cheers on Duo**

[Guest FrigidSoul]

It appears as though Duo has won over the "14 year old girls with homosexual art fantasies" group over

[Slayer 0]

First, let's establish the premise

 

You and every other two-bit anime elitist I've ever met

Y'know, calling somenoe ELSE an elitist just because they disagreed with an opinion on a videogame is pretty ironic.

 

-Duo

Usually, I'd consider someone who sterotypes another person to be an elitist, but maybe that's just me.

 

Do you even know what an elitist is? Your usage of the word in your post-sig indicates that, in fact, you apparently do not

 

Let me reference two of your previous posts

 

I don't like virtual flesh- I like FFX, and I like FFX-2. And once again, while I'm not denying there's marketing reasons to it, IT STILL MAKES SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE STORY.

 

It really, really seems like all of you played through FFX (or maybe didn't even do that), looked at pictures of what she looked like in FFX and what she looks like now in FFX-2, and then came up with their little conclusion. Without even playing FFX-2, mind you.

 

As Sakura said, she's still very much the same character. If you, you know, PLAYED FFX-2 before coming to your retarded conclusions, you might understand that. But hey, why play it when we can irrationally bash it instead, right?

 

-Duo

 

Duo's sad because all the anime has deprived him of the ability to larf

I can laugh just fine, but I don't see why there's any point to laughing when people are mocking something I enjoy.

 

And Renegade, I disagree. They are mocking the game in general, not just the fact that there's fanservice there. I'm perfectly allowed to defend the fact that Yuna's change of clothes make perfect sense in the context of the story, because they do. It's not just a marketing techinque that makes absolutley no sense, as some are suggesting.

 

-Duo

 

- Responds to fairly mild wisecracks with hostility

- Goes into in-depth explanation about how said wisecrack is TOTALLY wrong

- In general, just being all around tightass

- Later denies being elitist with regards to this behavior

 

That's fairly elitist behavior if I ever did see it

 

Litmus test time:

 

"Dragon Ball Z is the greatest anime ever made"

 

Respond

[Anya 0]

why must the english translations be so...corny? 'Potshot'? 'Bum Rush'? Um....

"Bum Rush" is probably a reference to FF VI. Sabin had a blitz called that.

[Guest Kamui]

First, let's establish the premise.

 

Let's do that.

 

Do you even know what an elitist is? Your usage of the word in your post-sig indicates that, in fact, you apparently do not.

 

I know what the word "elitist" means- you're just hung-up on the "anime elitist" context. I used it just fine in the post-sig.

 

Let me reference two of your previous posts.

 

Okay, but do you always have to announce what you're going to do before you do it? Just saying.

 

- Responds to fairly mild wisecracks with hostility

 

You call THAT hostility? Around these parts, I call that "fairly tame". Just trying to fit in with the general atmosphere, really.

 

- Goes into in-depth explanation about how said wisecrack is TOTALLY wrong

 

Oh, right, so having a point and defending it makes me an elitist. That's one really loose definition of "elitist" you have there- by that definition, about 75% of our population are elitists of some sort.

 

- In general, just being all around tightass

 

Again, defending something isn't being a tightass. I love how people make this point but it suddenly doesn't come into play when it's something THEY like that's being mocked. I simply took the point and said why it wasn't true. I don't care if they were kidding or not. Again, you're making a big deal out of nothing.

 

- Later denies being elitist with regards to this behavior

 

Now we're bordering on Salem Witch Trial-levels of idiocy. "Well, if they SAY they're not an elitist, then they must be an elitist!" What do you expect me to say? "Yes, I am an elitist."? I don't view myself as one, so I'm going to deny being an elitist. There you go.

 

That's fairly elitist behavior if I ever did see it

 

Then you obviously haven't been around any REAL anime elitists. Believe me, I have, and they aren't pretty. I look positivley TAME by comparison.

 

Litmus test time:

 

"Dragon Ball Z is the greatest anime ever made"

 

Respond

 

I'd tell them that I disagree, but hey, they can like whatever they want. I'd suggest that they check out some other specific animes that I feel has the best quality of DBZ (the fight scenes) and improves on the parts I personally feel are pretty bad (everything else), but if they disagree with me, that's just wonderful. I don't care.

 

-Duo

[Guest Kamui]

It appears as though Duo has won over the "14 year old girls with homosexual art fantasies" group over

So what the hell do you call THIS behavior then, Angelslayer? Why aren't you getting on this lad's case for making a sarcastic remark, no worse than anything I said?

 

Oh, right, because you have some problem with anime fans. My bad, I forgot.

 

And just for the record, from my many days of lurking (I've been here almost since it was the Smarks board, just never found a purpose to post before I started reading this board), I've never had a problem with Yuna (or Sakura, for that matter). I don't see what the problem is with them. Wow, Yuna likes yaoi. Who the fuck cares? Why doesn't someone get on the case of all the assholes who pick on Yuna every five minutes? The two of them never appear to do anything wrong, and yet they seem to get more hate than assholes who actually DESERVE it.

 

Rant over.

 

-Duo

[Star Ocean 3 0]

I don't see what the problem is with them. Wow, Yuna likes yaoi. Who the fuck cares? Why doesn't someone get on the case of all the assholes who pick on Yuna every five minutes? The two of them never appear to do anything wrong, and yet they seem to get more hate than assholes who actually DESERVE it.

 

It's probably flirting.

[Damaramu 0]

Litmus test time:

 

"Dragon Ball Z is the greatest anime ever made"

 

Respond

I'll field this one......that person has never actually seen real anime then. And they've probably only ever seen FUNIball Z.

 

Ok now that I'm done being a jackass..........come out swinging you two!

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Duo, my remark was simple banter...I have no problem with Yuna and I'm sure she knows that

 

You do act as though you have a stick up your ass and you snap without a second thought though

[Guest Kamui]

I don't see what the problem is with them. Wow, Yuna likes yaoi. Who the fuck cares? Why doesn't someone get on the case of all the assholes who pick on Yuna every five minutes? The two of them never appear to do anything wrong, and yet they seem to get more hate than assholes who actually DESERVE it.

 

It's probably flirting.

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...45109&st=60&hl=

 

I don't need to flirt with people over the internet. I just find it completley hypocritical that Angelslayer rushes to slam me for defending a videogame, but hey, if people want to take shots at Yuna for absolutley no reason in the EXACT SAME THERAD, well that's just fine by him. It's called "discrediting your opposition"- it works wonders.

 

-Duo

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Look, I'm a fan of a number of games/animes/series/etc from Japan, both well known and not so well known. Anime did not begin and end with Dragonball Z or Neon Genesis Evangelion, and just because Cowboy Bebop appeared on Cartoon Network doesn't make it any less of a good show than it was before.

 

However, the problem with these forms of entertainment were not originally the entertainment itself, but idiots who participate in them. Cosplay, the idiots who become so obsessed with fan service that we get animes and games that actually REVOLVE ENTIRELY AROUND fan service, the young girls who become pseudo fag hags because cartoon guys doing it are so appealing (which is like the female equivelant of guys thinking everything they know about sex they can learn by watching porn,) the Japan worship by people who would probably be looked at as the ignorant foreigner if they actually did visit that country. It's just all so STUPID. Being associated with that kind of behavior is what makes it embarassing to be into that kind of thing.

 

Now, although I can't complain about their posting in other forums, Yuna and Duo tend to be the most vocal examples of this kind of fandom here on our board. And again, I'm not saying they're bad posters, I'm just saying this "OHAYO GOZAIMAS, NIPPON ICHI!!! ^_______^" attitude is predictible and embarassing.

[Anya 0]

Cosplay is cool....

[Guest Kamui]

However, the problem with these forms of entertainment were not originally the entertainment itself, but idiots who participate in them.

 

omg you gots a stick up yer ass~!!

 

Cosplay,

 

Never done it, but I fail to see why this is on the list. It's just something people do with their free time. It's not like they go out into random areas dressed like that- you see, there's these things called anime conventions where they set apart time for cosplayers to show off their outfits. It's like making fun of someone for going to a football game dressed in a football jersey.

 

the idiots who become so obsessed with fan service that we get animes and games that actually REVOLVE ENTIRELY AROUND fan service,

 

Okay, this one I agree with you on (although some of the shows that people claim revolve entirley around fan service don't ACTUALLY revolve entirley around fan service, but okay).

 

the young girls who become pseudo fag hags because cartoon guys doing it are so appealing (which is like the female equivelant of guys thinking everything they know about sex they can learn by watching porn,)

 

My girlfriend loves yaoi. Do I care? No. It's just another sexual fetish. Some people have them. Yay for them. Again, why should you care?

 

the Japan worship by people who would probably be looked at as the ignorant foreigner if they actually did visit that country.

 

Most people who actually "worship" (read: like) more than just the anime and games usually study, again, more than just the anime and games and have an idea of what goes on there besides that. If someone takes the time to take in all aspects of the culture and the language- which many, many people do- they won't get looked down upon as an ignorant foreigner just because it was anime that got them into it (and it's not like they have to say that anyway!). I agree with you if someone just watches anime and plays games and expects to get the entire Japanese picture by those two alone, but very few people do, and most of the people who do are idiots.

 

It's just all so STUPID. Being associated with that kind of behavior is what makes it embarassing to be into that kind of thing.

 

I fail to see what's stupid about prefering another culture over your own. I don't like American culture. I like Japanese culture. How does that make me stupid?

 

Now, although I can't complain about their posting in other forums, Yuna and Duo tend to be the most vocal examples of this kind of fandom here on our board. And again, I'm not saying they're bad posters, I'm just saying this "OHAYO GOZAIMAS, NIPPON ICHI!!! ^_______^" attitude is predictible and embarassing.

 

Why? Give some reasons other than "Well, I think it's stupid." Why is it stupid?

 

-Duo

[Slayer 0]

Edited for content (read: you talk too much)

 

Let me reference two of your previous posts.

 

Okay, but do you always have to announce what you're going to do before you do it? Just saying. 

 

You actually got a larf out of me on this one, good work.

 

- Responds to fairly mild wisecracks with hostility

 

You call THAT hostility? Around these parts, I call that "fairly tame". Just trying to fit in with the general atmosphere, really.

 

It's obvious you either didn't take it to be tongue-in-cheek as it was meant to be, or you too busy were going "OMG HE'S MOCKING A GREAT GAME!" to notice

 

- Goes into in-depth explanation about how said wisecrack is TOTALLY wrong

 

Oh, right, so having a point and defending it makes me an elitist.

 

This is the wrong point to go overboard on, I'm tellin ya

 

- In general, just being all around tightass

 

Again, defending something isn't being a tightass. I love how people make this point but it suddenly doesn't come into play when it's something THEY like that's being mocked.

 

Feh, I'm a big boy, with a very lenient sense of humor. Go ahead, mock the things I like. I'll even help you out

 

Heavy metal ("Long haired pussies who sing like they have clothespins on their nuts")

Football ("Overpayed hosses")

Wrestling (random "it's fake" type joke here)

 

Again, you're making a big deal out of nothing.

 

Pot, meet kettle.

 

- Later denies being elitist with regards to this behavior

 

Now we're bordering on Salem Witch Trial-levels of idiocy.

 

Now that you mention it, immolating you doesn't sound like a bad idea

 

That's fairly elitist behavior if I ever did see it

 

Then you obviously haven't been around any REAL anime elitists.

 

Survery says...?

 

XX

 

I've been around them. Maybe you're not relatively that bad, but you seem up there.

 

Litmus test time:

 

"Dragon Ball Z is the greatest anime ever made"

 

Respond

 

I'd tell them that I disagree, but hey, they can like whatever they want. I'd suggest that they check out some other specific animes that I feel has the best quality of DBZ (the fight scenes) and improves on the parts I personally feel are pretty bad (everything else), but if they disagree with me, that's just wonderful. I don't care.

 

Did someone give you the answers to the test ahead of time? Yuna I'm looking in your direction...

 

It appears as though Duo has won over the "14 year old girls with homosexual art fantasies" group over

So what the hell do you call THIS behavior then, Angelslayer? Why aren't you getting on this lad's case for making a sarcastic remark, no worse than anything I said?

 

He makes me laugh and doesn't take things seriously. You do none of these things

[Slayer 0]

Cosplay is cool....

Two words: Fat catgirls

[Guest FrigidSoul]

If Yuna's a female I'll have sex with her to show I don't have a problem with her. I would think that would prove my stance

[Guest Kamui]

Edited for content (read: you talk too much)

 

Or- read: I had to ask five different people what to say to get back at that damn anime fan. That bastard. I hate him.

 

You actually got a larf out of me on this one, good work.

 

I must have missed something- why is it "larf" now? Because I must say, that's the stupidest piece of slang since "hizz-house".

 

It's obvious you either didn't take it to be tongue-in-cheek as it was meant to be, or you too busy were going "OMG HE'S MOCKING A GREAT GAME!" to notice

 

You're missing the point- I don't care if he's being tounge-in-cheek or not. I simply pointed out why I disagreed with him.

 

If I sarcastically make an insult about Benoit on the WWE board, do you REALLY believe everyone won't jump over each other to refute it anyway?

 

This is the wrong point to go overboard on, I'm tellin ya

 

I'll steal one from you: Pot, kettle, blaaaaack.

 

Feh, I'm a big boy, with a very lenient sense of humor. Go ahead, mock the things I like. I'll even help you out

 

Heavy metal ("Long haired pussies who sing like they have clothespins on their nuts")

Football ("Overpayed hosses")

Wrestling (random "it's fake" type joke here)

 

I don't NEED any help to mock heavy metal, football, or wrestling, thank you very much.

 

Pot, meet kettle.

 

That was SO original I just had to use it too!

 

Now that you mention it, immolating you doesn't sound like a bad idea

 

Oh, right, the old "He has a good point so I'll completley ignore it and make a stupid joke instead." technique. I got you.

 

And while it's in my head- why the HELL don't you use periods? What would your English teachers think, huh, did you even BOTHER to think of them?

 

I've been around them. Maybe you're not relatively that bad, but you seem up there.

 

Again. If you think I'm "relativley not bad" you have NOT met any REAL anime elitists.

 

Did someone give you the answers to the test ahead of time? Yuna I'm looking in your direction...

 

*sigh* I'll go pull a bunch of posts from other boards if you REALLY want me to. My little brother is a DBZ fan. I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANIMES YOU LIKE AND DISLIKE. I will try and tell you what I think, sure (and that's really all I did in this topic, too) but if you want to keep on thinking DBZ is the best anime ever, be my guest.

 

He makes me laugh and doesn't take things seriously. You do none of these things

 

If I didn't take things seriously, this board would be destroyed in an violent explosion of bishounen magic.

 

*also <3s X*

 

Really, keep these posts coming, I have nothing better to do on a Sunday night. Soooo bored...

 

-Duo

[Star Ocean 3 0]

1. Nippon Ichi made Disgaea, so they are good.

 

2. Flirting is good.

 

3. Cosplay is good, because it leads to this.

 

 

But it also leads to this, so it can be bad.

 

[Guest Kamui]

Your second picture is frightening, and worst of all your "good" example didn't even work.

 

And thankfully I'm not a huge Bebop fan- post a picture of a man as a Sailor senshi, though, and you DIE. DIE, I SAY.

 

-Duo

[Guest FrigidSoul]

I've come to the conclusion that Duo is an Anime loving Quaker.

 

Humor bad! Must be serious, must walk with ass cheeks clenched, must collect Yugi-Oh cards!

 

 

By the way Star Ocean, I hate you for posting that second pic... I'll have nightmares for weeks now

[Star Ocean 3 0]

It's supposed to be frighteneing...and I will not die.

 

Here's more good stuff.

 

[Slayer 0]

Edited for content yet again (read: I don't need help mocking anyone thank you)

 

I must have missed something- why is it "larf" now? Because I must say, that's the stupidest piece of slang since "hizz-house".

 

It's a stupid word I like to use, nothing more.

 

You're missing the point- I don't care if he's being tounge-in-cheek or not. I simply pointed out why I disagreed with him.

 

Ya sure did take it personally there.

 

This is the wrong point to go overboard on, I'm tellin ya

 

I'll steal one from you: Pot, kettle, blaaaaack.

 

You're taking something personally ("I'm not taking it personally!") and I'm mocking you for it. That's pretty much it.

 

I don't NEED any help to mock heavy metal, football, or wrestling, thank you very much. 

 

A missed point. You mock something I like, I'll probably laugh with you. We mocked something you liked and it's shit-city

 

Now that you mention it, immolating you doesn't sound like a bad idea

 

Oh, right, the old "He has a good point so I'll completley ignore it and make a stupid joke instead." technique. I got you.

 

And the old "I'll act like I'm outside the argument so it looks like I'm smarter than him" technique.

 

I've argued with far better than you. You're making this easy ("The 'you're making this too easy' copout! I'm onto you!")

 

And while it's in my head- why the HELL don't you use periods? What would your English teachers think, huh, did you even BOTHER to think of them?

 

Ignoring the fact that most of my sentences you quoted did in fact have proper punctuation at the end. Besides, I thought you were above such things like nitpicking over punctuation. Next thing you know, you'll be ponting outt how I mispelled fiv werds in this sentence.

 

If I didn't take things seriously, this board would be destroyed in an violent explosion of bishounen magic.

 

Just what we need. More bishonens

[Slayer 0]

It's supposed to be frighteneing...and I will not die.

 

Here's more good stuff.

Ratio of bad cosplay:good cosplay = high

[Guest Kamui]

Humor bad! Must be serious, must walk with ass cheeks clenched, must collect Yugi-Oh cards!

I don't see how I could hate humor, considering FLCL is one of my favorite animes.

 

Oh yeah, and Yu-Gi-Oh is FUN!

 

-Duo

[Anya 0]

Rikku as a black mage in X-2 looks like I-No.

 

This board does need more bishonen, in particular more Squall.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

That Asian girl has some larger than your average asian girl breasts...I like it but at the same time it doesn't seem right in the scheme of the universe

[Damaramu 0]

Hey Sakura. Isn't it kind of funny that they jumped on us for fighting...yet they're going at it like cats and dogs?

[Guest Kamui]

Rikku as a black mage in X-2 looks like I-No.

 

This board does need more bishonen, in particular more Squall.

As long as Rinoa is involved in the pose, minus part of her clothing, I'm very open to that idea.

 

And, just for the record, Angelslayer stopped recieving point-by-point replies from me the moment he turned his entire post into "I'm better than you are, haha." without any, y'know, ACTUAL REASONS to back this up.

 

-Duo

Edited November 24, 2003 by Duo

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Hey Sakura. Isn't it kind of funny that they jumped on us for fighting...yet they're going at it like cats and dogs?

If you're talking about me I could careless if the two of you fight it out.

 

You actually attend OU correct? If so I want a Bob Stoops autograph...he made me a Sooners fan with his defensive schemes (big defense mark)